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    Working around bad knee

    So after training harder than i ever have the last 6-8 months I've been getting large amounts of pain out of my knees that I am fairly certain are athritic (due to family history, type of pain, lack of swelling, etc etc.) It gets to be discouraging because I can't seem to do too much of anything in my lower body without the pain, so its easier to hit that lethargic state where the workouts suck and go less than i would like

    I'm looking for any ideas i can get to work around it, supplementation that will help (besides fish oil, cause it doesn't seem to help me at all) and anything else that might have helped you

    What suggestions do you guys have for still working your legs at least some while avoiding stress on the joint, what movements and rep ranges have worked for you, and were you able to yield any results from these (size/definition)

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    I gots the shit knee as well. Im interested also ,but I have found doing some resistance machines keep the pain from getting too bad. I mean our situations are different and im sure your knee and my knee have nothing in common other than they're both next to calves and quads, but I will suggest naproxen for swelling after workout, icing after every workout, and to try every different leg workout known to man to keep the test flowin from your legs. Best of luck

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    I had a bad knee, but that was an injury.I lowered my weights, for about 2 months and worked on the static bike for 30-40 minutes after every workout (I can't remember but I heard from someone that spinning the bike is good for the knee cartilage)

    If you can't lift heavy, can you at least go hiking uphill or climb stairs?I found that those two things really help in building the legs.

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    Thanks for the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by cschaaf View Post
    So after training harder than i ever have the last 6-8 months I've been getting large amounts of pain out of my knees that I am fairly certain are athritic (due to family history, type of pain, lack of swelling, etc etc.) It gets to be discouraging because I can't seem to do too much of anything in my lower body without the pain, so its easier to hit that lethargic state where the workouts suck and go less than i would like

    I'm looking for any ideas i can get to work around it, supplementation that will help (besides fish oil, cause it doesn't seem to help me at all) and anything else that might have helped you

    What suggestions do you guys have for still working your legs at least some while avoiding stress on the joint, what movements and rep ranges have worked for you, and were you able to yield any results from these (size/definition)

    Thanks,

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    The best way to avoid stress on the joint is to find an angle and level of force you can work at without any pain (at least acute pain). You may have to drop your weight way down and focus on shortened ranges for a little while until your joints recover.

    I have also used isometrics (contraction without movement) with some success for people with really bad knee issues - it's like flexing, but then pushing into resistance at a specific joint angle in order to strengthen the joint without moving the tendons/ligaments. Imagine doing a half squat while also pushing your feet out at the same time and you'll get the idea.

    Other natural anti-inflammatories - lavender, and Vitamin E has worked for some of my athletes in the past as well.
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    I played baseball and caught for a long time so my knees are bad, too. I wear knee braces and stretch tons. Aside from that, skeletal balm, forged joint support and cissus are all good sups to help out, too.

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    I've had massive knee problems and bunch of other joint/muscle problems. I started using skeletal balm and it helps a lot on numbing the pain away so I would get to still workout and workout heavy. Other than that SARMS, peptides, and cissus help A LOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cschaaf View Post
    So after training harder than i ever have the last 6-8 months I've been getting large amounts of pain out of my knees that I am fairly certain are athritic (due to family history, type of pain, lack of swelling, etc etc.) It gets to be discouraging because I can't seem to do too much of anything in my lower body without the pain, so its easier to hit that lethargic state where the workouts suck and go less than i would like

    I'm looking for any ideas i can get to work around it, supplementation that will help (besides fish oil, cause it doesn't seem to help me at all) and anything else that might have helped you

    What suggestions do you guys have for still working your legs at least some while avoiding stress on the joint, what movements and rep ranges have worked for you, and were you able to yield any results from these (size/definition)

    Thanks,

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    Do you think there could be a causal relationship between the fact that you are training harder than ever and that your knee pain is occurring? It may be an overuse injury.

    You said you are fairly certain that the pain is from arthritis, but it wouldn't hurt to get a diagnosis by a professional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post
    Do you think there could be a causal relationship between the fact that you are training harder than ever and that your knee pain is occurring? It may be an overuse injury.

    You said you are fairly certain that the pain is from arthritis, but it wouldn't hurt to get a diagnosis by a professional.
    I agree check out the suggestions above to help with the pain but also seek professional diagnosis so you can be certain of what the issue is.

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    I think glucosamine and alieve could bosth help

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    This spring I started having massive swelling and pain in my left knee. It was only a matter of time cause my mom has severe rhumatoid. I haven't had it diagnosed, I just know its arthritis. After seeing my mom and all the meds she has been put through in 25+ years, I don't trust the docs have a handle on the disease enough to change my symptoms without short and long term side effects.

    I wasn't training when the symptoms came about. I tried everything to try and change the pain and swelling, very little helped, and never lasted. I forced myself to try lifting again, and ever since I have found that I have little to no swelling. There is stiffness in the mornings, a tweaky feeling throughout the day, and ache if I place pressure too early with the wrong angle.

    I make sure I do a good 10 minute warmup and stretch it out well afterwards. Some days there is more sensitivity, others little to none. I start with squats in my routine, I haven't raised the weight in a long while out of fear. But I am still seeing gains (even though my right is further along than my left), so I am not too worried about that. My deadlift has increased, and rarely gives me an issue.

    It has been suggested in other threads, if you give sufficient warmup and stretch, it will make it easier on you.. get the joint oiled. I read elsewhere, polyunsaturated fats will help keep your joints lubricated, I guess prolonging the deterioration of the cartilidge.
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    wow, i didnt see that i had gotten any responses till today, but thanks for the suggestions, as for seeing the physician, i was being stubborn and trying to see what i could do before i hit that point...

    I do think that the amount i've pushed my body directly correlated with the pain in my knees, and as i've eased off my heavier deads and deep squats I have noticed a difference... I'm a skinny guy and pretty fresh to the gym life, but i have made some good progress, my shining jewel in my eyes was my deads, before i eased back off i was up to 3 reps at 330 and i think my goal of hitting 350 was a bit rushed considering the amount of time i have lifted...

    My plan now is to spend some time on the recumbent bike at least 2-3 days a week, do unilateral work as much as possible, implement some new supplementation and re-evaluate in 2-3 weeks and see where to go from there, if my knee pain is still intense i will go to the doc (i'm just afraid of what i may hear)

    Thanks so much fr the help guys, this forum has been a great aide to me

    Casey

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    if your afraid of what you might hear its def time to go see one.def keep us dated on how this goes.I wish you the best.

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