Thread: Pre-workout carbs and post-workout protein?

I can't rep you again, but another great post.

Originally Posted by Kenny Croxdale

Chubby,

The amount of glycogen burned/utilized is directly proportional to the intensity of the activity.

High intensity activities utilize glycogen and less body fat.

Low level activities utilize more of your body fat for energy and less glycogenb (carbs).

Sleeping requires very little energy.

Thus, sleeping utilizes more body fat and next to no glycogen (carbs).

Kenny Croxdale

I always had a question mark in my head about that. That makes very good sense. So I guess taking bedtime shake and doing fasted cardio to burn fat have no benifits.
Thanks, Kenny.

Originally Posted by Chubby

So I guess taking bedtime shake and doing fasted cardio to burn fat have no benifits.

How do you get that out of Kenny's post?

Originally Posted by Built

How do you get that out of Kenny's post?

I was using common sense. If body is going be using fat for fuel, then why need bedtime shake, and also if there is already a lot of glycogen in the body, don't you think body is going to use it for fuel before using fat for fuel in the morning?

Originally Posted by Chubby

I was using common sense. If body is going be using fat for fuel, then why need bedtime shake,

For appetite control? For the extra protein?

Originally Posted by Chubby

and also if there is already a lot of glycogen in the body, don't you think body is going to use it for fuel before using fat for fuel in the morning?

Not for low intensity activity, like walking. Fasted, you don't have to contend with the lipolysis-blunting effect of insulin.

For weights, yes. I sometimes train fasted in the AM and I'm fine. I just eat afterward.

Originally Posted by Built

For appetite control? For the extra protein?

Neither. Just don't want to eat if don't have to.

Not for low intensity activity, like walking. Fasted, you don't have to contend with the lipolysis-blunting effect of insulin.

For weights, yes. I sometimes train fasted in the AM and I'm fine. I just eat afterward.

Okay, thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Chubby

I was using common sense. If body is going be using fat for fuel, then why need bedtime shake, and also if there is already a lot of glycogen in the body, don't you think body is going to use it for fuel before using fat for fuel in the morning?

Chubby,

Bed Time Meal/Shake

While fat is the predominate source of fuel as you sleep, some amino acids and glycogen are burned well.

Think of saving account. You savings account grows when you make deposits into your "muscle saving account".

Any with drawals from you account means you you "muscle savings account" takes longer to grow and become bigger.

[UTime Release Bed Time Protein[/U]

A bed time protein meal/snack continues to provide you muscle with amino acids to insure no "with drawals" occur from you "muscle saving account.

Caseinate is considered to be an anti-catabolic protein. That because it is time released for your 8 hour sleep fasting period. Thus, iit continues to feed you muscles during your 8 hour "sleep fast".

Gluconeogenesis

Protein can also be converted to glycogen. Thus, insuring the muscle g;ycogen it "topped off".

High Intensity Fuel

Goycogen is the primary fuel source for high intensity activities. The more demanding the activity, the more glycogen is used.

Low Intensity Fuel

The lower the intensity of the activity, the less glycogen is used.

Sleeping is about as low as you can get on the activity scale. Thus, only a very small amount of glycogen is used.

Kenny Croxdale