Thread: Barbell Military vs BNP

There is no way to predict, two different exercises and planes of travel. I don't do BMP's anymore after tearing my rotator, but I could always military more even before that. Maybe try BNP in a Smith machine for safety until you get a good feel.

I could always military more as well

Don't care much for BNP because of the stress it puts on the shoulder. I've also had my rotator cuff surgically repaired. Military press is a fantastic exercise, and far superior to BNP in my opinion.

i just started BNP's. I have terrible shoulder flexability and I feel they help because the weight forces my arms down and stretched my shoulders. I do them pretty light though, and they are harder than a military press for sure. so start light.
also with a 175x6 strict? military press, you should probably be in the 215+ range for a 1RM

Unless you have a sport specific reason for performing behind the neck presses, there is essentially no reason to do them. You put your acromioclavicular joint in an at risk position with you shoulders abducted to 90 degrees and externally rotated. Loading them to that extent in such a position is riskier than need be.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Unless you have a sport specific reason for performing behind the neck presses, there is essentially no reason to do them. You put your acromioclavicular joint in an at risk position with you shoulders abducted to 90 degrees and externally rotated. Loading them to that extent in such a position is riskier than need be.

This cat saying not to do them is reason enough not to. CP knows his shit, heed his advice c

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

This cat saying not to do them is reason enough not to. CP knows his shit, heed his advice c

Thanks. I will clarify one step further in case you want a better idea of the risk involved.

Approximately 1/3 of people have a compromised subacromial space. This is the space located between the acromion process (The little palpable bump on your shoulder near where your collar bone ends) and the head of your humerus (Your upper arm bone). For those 1/3 of people, the exercise makes some kind of tissue trauma in the space far more likely as the space is compromised in the 90/90 shoulder position I mentioned before. Potential tissues subject to impingment and damage include the tendon on the long head of the bicep, the subacromial bursae, and the suprispinatus (One of the rotator cuff muscles).

If you are willing to risk it, well you have about a 2/3 chance that it won't cause any problems for you. Of course there are other variables, but assuming what I mentioned before is the main thing to worry about. However, I don't like those odds enough to risk it. With that said, you can make the decision for yourself.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Thanks. I will clarify one step further in case you want a better idea of the risk involved.

Approximately 1/3 of people have a compromised subacromial space. This is the space located between the acromion process (The little palpable bump on your shoulder near where your collar bone ends) and the head of your humerus (Your upper arm bone). For those 1/3 of people, the exercise makes some kind of tissue trauma in the space far more likely as the space is compromised in the 90/90 shoulder position I mentioned before. Potential tissues subject to impingment and damage include the tendon on the long head of the bicep, the subacromial bursae, and the suprispinatus (One of the rotator cuff muscles).

If you are willing to risk it, well you have about a 2/3 chance that it won't cause any problems for you. Of course there are other variables, but assuming what I mentioned before is the main thing to worry about. However, I don't like those odds enough to risk it. With that said, you can make the decision for yourself.

I haven't done em since 2005, not worth the pain involved. I use dumbbells a lot, just change the plane of travel if I feel the need.

Thanks guys. My workout buddy said he wanted to incorporate that into our workout....that's not gunna happen. I'll stay away from doing BNP for sure.

Too hard on my shoulder to do the military personally

I lift more seated front barbell then BNP, BUT BNP give me way more bench carryover and overall shoulder development. Shame it's a bit risky.