sorry but another personal trainer thread -

[awhites1]

I had posted a similar question in another thread but didn't get a whole lot of useful feed back. think my question was too long and in the wrong section so -
let me ask a short strait forward, not rambling question:
how many personal trainers here had to memorize stuff like this and still know and use it? strait from my lesson book

The large intestine (or “large bowel”), at only 5 feet long, is
larger around than the small intestine. At the bottom end of
the GI tract, the large intestine takes care of the “elimination”
part of the digestion process. It also absorbs sodium and
water and incubates bacteria that produce certain vitamins
the body can use.
At the joint of the small and large intestines is a pouch called
the cecum, behind which hangs a worm-shaped tube
called the vermiform appendix. A
sphincter-like structure, the ileocecal valve,
regulates the passage of material from the ileum to the large
intestine. At this point, most of the digestible nutrients have
been absorbed during the trip through the small intestine. The
chyme has become fecal matter, which may take from 1
to 3 days to move from the ileocecal valve to the rectum, the
terminal portion of the large intestine. There’s an anal sphincter
at either end of the rectum. The internal
sphincter will relax automatically when the rectum fills with
feces, stimulating the desire to defecate. The
external sphincter, or anus, is controlled voluntarily.
The portion of the large intestine between the cecum and the
rectum is called the colon. Many people mistakenly
use the term colon as a synonym for “large intestine.” But
when physicans say “colon,” they don’t mean the cecum or
rectum! You may occasionally hear reference to the ascending
colon, the transverse colon, the
descending colon , and the sigmoid colon
. These aren’t the painful diseases they may sound
like; they simply describe the shapes of the colon’s sections.
The ascending colon “climbs” up the right side of the posterior
abdominal wall from the cecum toward the liver; the
transverse colon goes “across” the abdomen; the descending
colon goes “down” along the left side of the posterior abdominal
wall; and the sigmoid colon, which makes an S shape,
empties into the rectum. The bend between the ascending colon and transverse colon near the liver is called the hepatic
flexure; the bend between the transverse
colon and descending colon near the spleen is called the
splenic flexure .

The urinary bladder is a reservoir made of
muscular walls lined with a loose mucous
membrane that wrinkles into folds called
rugae when it’s empty. (Sounds
a lot like the stomach, doesn’t it?) The
bladder lining has one always-smooth,
close-to-the-muscle section called the
vesical trigone. The
term trigone means “triangular area,” and
the three corners of the vesical trigone are
where the two ureters come in and the
urethra goes out.
As a storage reservoir, the bladder has its
limits—about 1 1/2 pints. When the bladder
expands enough to stimulate the nerves
that initiate the emptying reflex, the internal
urethral sphincter is
automatically released. Urine then passes
into the urethra , the tube leading
from the bladder to the surface, and the
person has a strong desire to empty the bladder. The adult
male’s urethra is approximately 7 inches long; it passes
through the penis and also conveys semen. The female’s
urethra is 1 1/2 inches long and surfaces between the
clitoris and the vagina.
The external urethral sphincter, at the end of the urethra, is
the last valve holding the urine back. This muscle is under
voluntary control (after the age of two or three, that is!). The
opening through which urine leaves the body is called the
urinary meatus -a “meatus” is an
opening or a passage.

the two lessons I'm on now for my next quiz "Fitness Anatomy and Physiology 1" unit 1 and 2 are a combined +150 pages of very detailed information like this. Do they realize how long it will take to trully memorize this information? I see this stuff on the tests so I have to learn it if I want to get certified but dayum

[juggernaut]

Truthfully, you will use it, albeit not in the manner you think.
I deal with clients that have IBS, Croans, thyroid problems, stomach issues, etc. The more educated you are about this, the more professional you will be (and appear); even if you dont KNOW it by memory, something will activate in your mind and you will know how to deal with it and also be able to pursue questions and answers as to why your client(s) are performing at their expected level.

My advice; suck it up, learn as much as you can. It's a fat chance in hell that you'll be dealing with figure and top level athletes all the time...if you don't care about making money. Maybe 5% of my clientelle are high level elite and/or professional athletes. All the rest are obese, skinny and most likely suck at working out. THEY have expendable income. The "5%ers", are mostly broke or have to scrimp for every dime because they're trying to make it.

[awhites1]

It's a fat chance in hell that you'll be dealing with figure and top level athletes all the time...

See that's part of what I'm getting from this is it seems like the lesson is so detail oriented that it's almost geared towards trainers who would be training Elite/Professional/Olympic athletes.

My real goal is eventually to go to school to be a physical therapist assistant and figure this would be a great prelude into it. But at this point it's just become I want to finish this because I'm tired of dropping out of stuff. Just want to get some perspective and see if maybe it's just the program I'm using it too in depth or this is trully common knowledge among real certified trainers.

[ThreeGigs]

Detail oriented? Dude, neither of those bits of information have any detail. They're mostly just naming parts and giving gross functions.

What vitamins and nutrients are produced by the bacteria in the large intestine? What antibiotics affect those bacteria? Are the nutrients the bacteria produce absorbed elsewhere too? Are any of the nutrients essential? How much fecal matter is in the colon? How long does a person have to fast before it's mostly empty? If a client has medical history of polyps having been removed from the descending colon, and they experience pain on the right side of their belly, are they possibly related? What are enterocytes and are there any in the colon?

Yes, as a trainer who can get his ass sued off for giving bad advice, you should probably know the simple stuff like what you posted above, and use it whenever possible.

[juggernaut]

See that's part of what I'm getting from this is it seems like the lesson is so detail oriented that it's almost geared towards trainers who would be training Elite/Professional/Olympic athletes.

My real goal is eventually to go to school to be a physical therapist assistant and figure this would be a great prelude into it. But at this point it's just become I want to finish this because I'm tired of dropping out of stuff. Just want to get some perspective and see if maybe it's just the program I'm using it too in depth or this is trully common knowledge among real certified trainers.

Which certification are you going for?

[awhites1]

Which certification are you going for?

Personal Trainer Certification and Health Fitness Continuing Education is the certification/organization that accredits or certifies where I'm taking my classes through.

I'm looking at there sample test and think maybe I can blow through some of the initial lessons. I think maybe the course work provided by Penn Foster has too much irrelevant information. I looked over the sample quiz on NCSF's website and it contains obviously the correct medical terminology for body parts, muscle groups, and movements. There doesn't seem to be anything covering

The cerebrum. The largest, most important, and most complicated part of the brain is the cerebrum (Figure 27). Its thin outer layer of gray matter is called the cerebral cortex. Beneath the gray matter lies white matter, the basal ganglia. The lateral ventricles are the two cavities within the cerebrum. The sausagelike folds, or convolutions, are separated by sulci (shallow grooves) and fissures (deep grooves).

The cerebrum controls motor activities, interprets sensations, and serves as the center of intellect, memory, language, and consciousness. The longitudinal fissure divides the cerebrum into two hemispheres—the left brain
and the right brain. Each cerebral hemisphere coordinates and directs certain
activities. For instance, if you’re left-handed like 15 percent of the population, it’s your right hemisphere that gives the orders. Right-handed people receive orders from the left hemisphere. The frontal lobe controls voluntary movements of skeletal muscles and directs the formation of words.
The parietal lobe receives information about touch from the sensory receptors in the skin and the joints. It also receives and integrates information about sight, sound, and taste. This lobe helps people to fit into their environment and to identify objects. The occipital lobe receives information from the thalamus about what we see and uses the information to help us formulate an appropriate response. This lobe is the primary visual area. The temporal lobe receives and responds to sound. This lobe also formulates emotion, personality,
and behavior.

[stfuandliftbtch]

I wouldn't worry unless you have some asshole who decided to ask you/test you and make you look like an idiot...

YOUR Client:"Excuse me (trainer), what information does the parietal lobe receive?"

-You: "UHHhhhmmmmmmmmm.......(wtfuckkk is he talking about<in head>)"

-Douche bag trainer: "Sir, the parietal lobe receives information about touch from the sensory receptors in the skin and the joints. It also receives and integrates information about sight, sound, and taste."
and behavior.

Client: in head(my trainer is an idiot, going to book a few sessions with Mr. D)



thats the only downfall. getting a fag who asked you shit like that

[juggernaut]

With logic like that how can you go wrong?

Sent from my G2x
using Taptalk

[poohiron]

I had posted a similar question in another thread but didn't get a whole lot of useful feed back. think my question was too long and in the wrong section so -
let me ask a short strait forward, not rambling question:
how many personal trainers here had to memorize stuff like this and still know and use it? strait from my lesson book

The large intestine (or “large bowel”), at only 5 feet long, is
larger around than the small intestine. At the bottom end of
the GI tract, the large intestine takes care of the “elimination”
part of the digestion process. It also absorbs sodium and
water and incubates bacteria that produce certain vitamins
the body can use.
At the joint of the small and large intestines is a pouch called
the cecum, behind which hangs a worm-shaped tube
called the vermiform appendix. A
sphincter-like structure, the ileocecal valve,
regulates the passage of material from the ileum to the large
intestine. At this point, most of the digestible nutrients have
been absorbed during the trip through the small intestine. The
chyme has become fecal matter, which may take from 1
to 3 days to move from the ileocecal valve to the rectum, the
terminal portion of the large intestine. There’s an anal sphincter
at either end of the rectum. The internal
sphincter will relax automatically when the rectum fills with
feces, stimulating the desire to defecate. The
external sphincter, or anus, is controlled voluntarily.
The portion of the large intestine between the cecum and the
rectum is called the colon. Many people mistakenly
use the term colon as a synonym for “large intestine.” But
when physicans say “colon,” they don’t mean the cecum or
rectum! You may occasionally hear reference to the ascending
colon, the transverse colon, the
descending colon , and the sigmoid colon
. These aren’t the painful diseases they may sound
like; they simply describe the shapes of the colon’s sections.
The ascending colon “climbs” up the right side of the posterior
abdominal wall from the cecum toward the liver; the
transverse colon goes “across” the abdomen; the descending
colon goes “down” along the left side of the posterior abdominal
wall; and the sigmoid colon, which makes an S shape,
empties into the rectum. The bend between the ascending colon and transverse colon near the liver is called the hepatic
flexure; the bend between the transverse
colon and descending colon near the spleen is called the
splenic flexure .

The urinary bladder is a reservoir made of
muscular walls lined with a loose mucous
membrane that wrinkles into folds called
rugae when it’s empty. (Sounds
a lot like the stomach, doesn’t it?) The
bladder lining has one always-smooth,
close-to-the-muscle section called the
vesical trigone. The
term trigone means “triangular area,” and
the three corners of the vesical trigone are
where the two ureters come in and the
urethra goes out.
As a storage reservoir, the bladder has its
limits—about 1 1/2 pints. When the bladder
expands enough to stimulate the nerves
that initiate the emptying reflex, the internal
urethral sphincter is
automatically released. Urine then passes
into the urethra , the tube leading
from the bladder to the surface, and the
person has a strong desire to empty the bladder. The adult
male’s urethra is approximately 7 inches long; it passes
through the penis and also conveys semen. The female’s
urethra is 1 1/2 inches long and surfaces between the
clitoris and the vagina.
The external urethral sphincter, at the end of the urethra, is
the last valve holding the urine back. This muscle is under
voluntary control (after the age of two or three, that is!). The
opening through which urine leaves the body is called the
urinary meatus -a “meatus” is an
opening or a passage.

the two lessons I'm on now for my next quiz "Fitness Anatomy and Physiology 1" unit 1 and 2 are a combined +150 pages of very detailed information like this. Do they realize how long it will take to trully memorize this information? I see this stuff on the tests so I have to learn it if I want to get certified but dayum

If you plan on excelling in your profession you will need to take some higher level physiology courses. What you are studying at the moment is only the tip of the ice berg. Enroll in a bachelors of exercise science and shoot for a CSCS or CPT certification from the NSCA. Further on pursue graduate work to get a deeper more professional grasp on the physiology side.

[ckcrown84]

It is important to be well rounded. As the Jugg said it will come in handy whether you really realize it or not. It is not about a client "testing" you, but about you being about to conduct yourself professionally, make informed decisions, and judgement calls with a background that is firmly rooted in an understanding of how the body works.

Besides, learning all that biology / physiology arms you with a solid "baloney detection kit."

[awhites1]

Thanks everyone. Got a few good responses here and PM'd to me.

Just for the record I don't want to come off as lazy or against furthering my education. I just was having a hard time trying to figure out how to actually get through this because it could take me months to get through just 1 of the anatomy lessons with all the terms and parts I would have to memorize. I was trying to figure how I will make it through this program I was expecting to take less than a year.

I'll prob skip over some of it just to actually get done with it. Other wise it's going to take me for freakin ever. I'll learn as much as I can but I'm pretty sure short of doctors no one has all these thousands of pages commited to memory so I was sweatin it too much.

[CowPimp]

Honestly, I can't see any certification exams asking detailed questions about general anatomy and physiology. However, as Juggernaut said, it will prove useful to you to at least be somewhat familiar with these structures because of the ailments clients often complain about.

Summarize as best you can and focus on the more fitness related information. For example:

Large intestine - Elimination
Small intestine - Nutrient absorption
Urinary bladder - Urine storage

I mean, you probably aren't going to remember a lot more detail than that anyway. Just study the key points, but try reading the descriptions in full. Maybe more will stick than you think.

[Archibald1997]

great stuff

[ShreddedOatz]

Definetly had to learn all that material in college. Received a BS in exercise science emphasis in strength and conditioning and had to take physiology I and II which were the hardest classes I took getting my degree, as far as the certification they don't really go into that depth and detail more general information but it is definitely good to know your shit to be able to conduct yourself professionally. Just stick to it Brotha and grasp what you can...I wouldn't worry about memorizing every detail, focus on main functions of physiology as far as organ functions etc.. Who you getting certified with?