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    General bulking help please

    Hi,

    Currently 132 lbs
    5 ft 5
    BF 18%
    20 years old

    I use the gym regularly 4 to 5 times a week. At the moment trying to bulk up upper body and abs.

    Don't have too much structure to my workouts although I know which muscle groups I want to work each session.

    Can anyone help me from the beginning and quite a bit of detail as to the best way to achieve bulking eg splitting the days and any specific training routines. I am using promax extreme, through lack of knowledge of other brands and what works tbh. Ive improved my diet a lot but still don't think I'm eating enough calories. Am willing to change routine around completely but need some major advice in bulking up.

    Thanks
    Josh

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    18%!..... and you want to bulk!?!?! 5-5 132! that almost 25lbs of fat on you.....


    you need to fix your diet and get some kinda structure to your workouts!.... bro at your bodyweight, 18% is very unhealthy! get your ass on a diet fast.


    BTW, why the hell would you want to "bulk your abs"!!!!!!!



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    How about you post up what your diet consists of and eating schedule...

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    In this case i suggest Jim Wendler's "NOV" plan for just getting into shape:

    Training:
    Weights 3x Week - 5/3/1 program or similar. Compound movements. SQUAT.
    Conditioning 2x Week - Hill runs, prowler, sprints, etc.

    Diet:
    Before every meal have a whey protein shake and a serving of fruit, some meat/eggs/fish, and as many carbs as you can handle after all that.

    That's it. Do that for a while and get into some sort of shape then worry about bulking later. If you bulk with that level of bodyfat you're just gonna get fatter.
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    You say at the moment you're trying to bulk upper body. You need to shift your focus on bulking your whole body and understand that lower body lifts will be essential to your upper body bulk. If your legs are lean, your whole body will have an urge to stay lean.

    Your main adjustment should be your diet. Do some research in diet section to find a good diet plan and adjust accordingly. As far as training is concerned you should find a good split such as upper/ lower, push/pull, full body. Don't spend more than 3 to 4 days in the gym a week. Rest is very important. Lift heavy, progress your workouts, and stay true to the following lifts: squats, deadlifts, bench press, shoulder press, pull ups, chin ups, bb rows and rack pulls. Never neglect legs.
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    I think you should add more food to eat, sleep and play hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    18%!..... and you want to bulk!?!?! 5-5 132! that almost 25lbs of fat on you.....


    you need to fix your diet and get some kinda structure to your workouts!.... bro at your bodyweight, 18% is very unhealthy! get your ass on a diet fast.


    BTW, why the hell would you want to "bulk your abs"!!!!!!!



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    BTW, why the hell would you want to " bulk your abs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    18%!..... and you want to bulk!?!?! 5-5 132! that almost 25lbs of fat on you.....


    you need to fix your diet and get some kinda structure to your workouts!.... bro at your bodyweight, 18% is very unhealthy! get your ass on a diet fast.


    BTW, why the hell would you want to "bulk your abs"!!!!!!!



    this has to be spam.
    I'm trying to bulk too.

    6-2
    250lbs
    22% BF
    32 years old

    Should I look at getting leaner before I bulk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkside5674 View Post
    I'm trying to bulk too.

    6-2
    250lbs
    22% BF
    32 years old

    Should I look at getting leaner before I bulk?
    So just to preface my below statement, you're not giving any history of lifting or what your ultimate goal is. If I make the assumption that that 22% is not made of muscle from a history of lifting and you want to continue your pursuit of established pursuit of power lifting, then see my comments below.

    Yep. It sounds like you're carrying a lot of excess right now. That's telling me you don't have a tight diet now. If you use that approach to "bulk" you're just going to end up fat. When people talk about "bulking" they really mean they want to increase some muscle mass, but you can do that by dropping bodyfat - 22% is a ratio of your lean muscle mass to bodyfat. By reducing that ratio, technically you are increasing your muscle mass. What you'd want to do is drop some fat. You'll find your body will become much more efficient in fat burning, it won't have to waste energy carrying around the extra fat, your cardiovascular capacity will increase, and when you go about truly bulking, you won't be adding additional flab that you'll need to get rid of, which you'll have to work harder at because your body will have already had reduced metabolic efficiency and even more extra weight.

    I would suggest you start a seperate thread so your story doesn't get mixed in w/ the OP's. Post up your current diet or typical diet for a given day, and also your training history and current workout regimen.


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    Apologies I meant 8% not 18% body fat. Do I still need to bulk as this percentage or just maintain my calories that the body needs?

    My diet consists of:

    Breakfast - porridge with fruit afterwards

    Snack - usually another piece of fruit and/or nuts

    Lunch - egg or chicken sandwich

    Dinner - a meal containing either chicken fish or turkey accompanied with mixture of veg and potatoes

    Desert - low fat vanilla yoghurt with fruit normally blueberries

    On my workout days I will also have 2 protein shakes one straight after workout and one just before.

    I have looked at and changed my workouts according to suggestions made.
    Any help is much appreciated

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    wanna bulk? high rep squats - 2/3 times a week ; high rep heavy weight sets on compound exercises; protein and sleep

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