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    deadlifts?

    someone was saying, maybe it was on this board, that deadlifts can help me add lots of mass and make my "frame" bigger. anyways, i am doing a new split, more just for football size and strength than bbing, but i need to know what day to do deads. my workout works somewhat like this:

    monday: upper body
    bench press
    curls
    military press
    lat pulls
    ?power cleans?

    tuesday: Legs
    Regular free squats(finally got a rakc at school )
    calf raises
    inside squats
    (and should i put dead lifts here?)

    wednesday: off
    thursday: see monday
    friday: see tuesday

    so should i put deads with my lower body workout? and also ive never done them much, so i would greatly appreciate soem advice on form and all. thanks.
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    In that routine I would do them on Tuesday and Friday (if recovered fully). If you go really heavy/intense you may want to do them only on Friday to allow full recovery over the weekend. Doing them Tuesday...you may not be recovered by Thursday and Friday which may detrimentallly effect your workouts.

    IMO...Friday only!
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    Here is a picture of the proper form for deadlifts:

    http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Glut...BDeadlift.html
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    Is that you in the demo, Funk?

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    Is that you in the demo, Funk?
    lol. Naw man, that guy is a little to old to be me.
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    Is it completely improper to put my arms on the inside of my legs instead of on the outside? I tried it the other way and it hurts my groin really bad. Am I doing them wrong? Everyone I have seen deadlift put their arms inside of their legs.
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    I usually mix it up week to week as far as arms inside or outside of my legs. I feel a bit different when I change my arm position. I think when you put your arms inside your legs it is called sumo style deadlifts. Both ways are good IMO.
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    I usually mix it up week to week as far as arms inside or outside of my legs. I feel a bit different when I change my arm position. I think when you put your arms inside your legs it is called sumo style deadlifts. Both ways are good IMO.
    Whew I would hate to think I wasted 2 months doing them wrong.

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    ok, another question:
    I always feel 'satisfied' after doing my deadlifts, but I'm somewhat skeptical as to how much they can affect the back in general. Is it all about strength from the erector spinae (sp?), or do they directly hit the main back (cos it sure don't feel like it).
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    I always feel 'satisfied' after doing my deadlifts, but I'm somewhat skeptical as to how much they can affect the back in general. Is it all about strength from the erector spinae (sp?), or do they directly hit the main back (cos it sure don't feel like it).
    How far apart do you place your feet? For me personally I go wider than shoulder width I feel it more in my legs than I do in my lower back. Also how is your form? Make sure you keep your back flat (ie not rounded).

    Some people say that they don't feel it as much in their lower back also. Same goes for stiff legs. Some say they like it for lower back, some say they like it for their hams.
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    Originally posted by P-funk
    How far apart do you place your feet? For me personally I go wider than shoulder width I feel it more in my legs than I do in my lower back. Also how is your form? Make sure you keep your back flat (ie not rounded).

    Some people say that they don't feel it as much in their lower back also. Same goes for stiff legs. Some say they like it for lower back, some say they like it for their hams.
    My feet are usually a bit narrower than shoulder width, and from all I've read & analyzed my form is good.
    This wasn't really my point - I do feel my lower back working in deadlifts (oh boy do I...), my point is most people say that deads are important for a big back, whereas I feel that by working my lower back (with deads) I'm leaving a bit part of my upper back doin nothing.
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    how do you do sumo style? Correctly!

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    Well, I think they say that deads can lead to a big back because think about it. Just becuase you are lifting with your lower back you are holding the weight in your arms/in front of you. You aren't holding that weight with your just lower back. It is being stabalized with a lot of other muscles. Deads are a total body workout. I feel them all over. Same with squats. Both exercises increase stabalization and balance and strengthen your entire core wich can lead to more thickness in general.
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