Routine help

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 08:40 AM

Hey guys, just curious of what you all think of the routine I am working through now. It goes like this:

-Monday- Chest, Triceps, abs, 10-15min treadmill
-For chest I do 3 exercises and 4 sets for each exercise: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6
-For triceps i do 2 exercises 4 sets eachL 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6

-Wednesday- Shoulders, Legs
-For shoulders I do 3 exercises and 4 sets for each exercise: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6
-For Legs I do 2 exercises for each part of the leg, and 4 sets each exercises.
Thigh: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6
hamstring: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6
Calves: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6

-Friday- back, biceps, abs, 10-15min treadmill
-For Back I do 3 exercises and 4 sets for each exercise: 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6
-For biceps i do 2 exercises 4 sets eachL 10,8,8,6 / 10,8,8,6

I just want to know what people thing. Its a simple routine but is it too much or too little? or is it fine?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

**Prince** · 03-16-2003, 09:36 AM

what is your goal?

what exercises are you using?

I don't recommend working any other muscle group with legs.

**Robboe** · 03-16-2003, 09:41 AM

I'd cut down to 2 work sets per exercise and ensure you do shoulders before legs.

**Prince** · 03-16-2003, 09:43 AM

you do not even know what his goal is, how can you advise that?

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 09:43 AM

Im gonna try to switch my exercises around every 2-3 months, Am I doing too many sets? Its 12 sets for the big muscles and 8 sets for the smaller ones.

And yes I do shoulders before Legs.

I wanna gain muscle mass, and lose a little weight as well.

**Robboe** · 03-16-2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Prince
you do not even know what his goal is, how can you advise that?

Because i am a genius and i know these things.

**Prince** · 03-16-2003, 09:51 AM

I doubt you will gain much mass on that type of routine unless you're a beginner in which almost any lifting will increase size/strength. However, if you are a beginner then I think it's okay aside from the legs/shoulder work-out.

Legs as a group are half of your body in terms of muscles. Adding shoulders to the work-out is not the best idea. You would be better off moving your shoulder work-out to chest day. Just about everyone will agree with this except Chicken Daddy, but we will not go there.

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 09:57 AM

Well I used to workout for a year straight, on the stupid bill phillips routine. I stopped for a year, so im starting over I guess. What do you suggest I do? And are the sets fine? or should I add more or take some out?

**Prince** · 03-16-2003, 09:59 AM

If you're just starting back then I think it's fine other than legs/shoulders together.

**Robboe** · 03-16-2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Prince
Legs as a group are half of your body in terms of muscles. Adding shoulders to the work-out is not the best idea. You would be better off moving your shoulder work-out to chest day. Just about everyone will agree with this except Chicken Daddy, but we will not go there.

Ahhh...I never said that. I just said that given that routine, he should be sure to do shoulders before legs.

But if you really want my advice based on my own experience, i'd say do a few sets of side laterals between back and biceps and leave that as all your direct shoulder work.

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 11:27 AM

Im sorry if this soudns tooo newbish, can you show me what side laterals look like? (the exercise)

**Yanick** · 03-16-2003, 11:59 AM

Laterals

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 12:06 PM

Ahh yea those

Can that also be done sitting on a bench and leaning over also? (edge of bench)

**Yanick** · 03-16-2003, 12:12 PM

Don't lean over too much or you'll be doing bent over laterals. Just a slight bend at the hips (which i don't think is even necessary).

You can do them on a bench also if you wish.

**iryoku** · 03-16-2003, 12:35 PM

Arent those for shoulders? like when you stand up straight

**Yanick** · 03-16-2003, 01:03 PM

Yes, side laterals are for your medial deltoid head. If you bend over you will work your posterior deltoid head. Front raises work your anterior deltoid head.

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