turtleguy11688

hey all im new to IM ,and i was searching the net trying to find out how to work out the neck muscles .and found this place..

i was doing shoulder shrugs for a few weeks but some how stop,will shoulder shrugs get my neck muscles bigger?

And what other ways can i get them

thanks
jess

Mudge

Find a 4 way neck machine, thats the only thing that will give you direct work. Shrugs dont seem to work my neck that much, the only thing other than a 4 way that give me any stimulation are lateral raises (delts).

However, you need to use a neck machine to get a real direct workout, and all four sides. There is no machine that I know of in gyms for rotation though, which is another set of muscles. Twist movements are rather dangerous anyway.

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turtleguy11688

ok thanks,,
but what is a 4 way neck machine?

im only 15 been working out for a while. i dont go to a gym yet since i cant get there every day,so i bought alot of weights,
is there a site i can look up for the 4 way thing?or r they at like wal-mart's and stuff.

thanks
jess

Mudge

Google finds darn near everything They are expensive. Next choice would be a head strap but I hate them, I have one and it just bites into my brain hard, and without a linear reistance weight stack, its near worthless. If you wear a hat, and keep it from moving by using your hands to hold it in place, its bearable.

4-way machine costs about $599+

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turtleguy11688

well i guess i wont be getting one anytime soon then,lol.

maybe i could find a used one for sale,lol


thanks for all the info, im sure i will be posting here often.so later.


thanks
jess

DRAKE KERRY

Get a weighted neck strengthener from Ringside.com

Mudge

http://www.ringside.com/store/prodin...item=9&mitem=9

Like an old head strap, uncomfortable as all hell, wants to pull the skin right off your head. Try using that with 180-360 pounds and see how wonderfull it feels.

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turtleguy11688

cool.i might try to get one of those,


i will see if i can handle it,lol,,but amything is better than nothing.

how does it work? i seen that pic at ringside.com. do you move your head side to side or what

im gonna go see what shipping is on that and i might get it.

thanks
jess

turtleguy11688

wait will it just make my neck bigger,when i was saying neck i was thinking like in between my neck and shoulder area,
or is that considered neck muscle?

thanks
jess

Mudge

Oh, your talking trapezius maximus. Search around www.exrx.net

Primarily shoulder shrugs, secondary excersize upright rows.

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turtleguy11688

good im glad i didnt order that neck thing.

cool what r the upright rows?

thanks
jess

turtleguy11688

ok i did a search and found out what the upright rows r.
at this site http://www.hardcorebodybuilding.com/uprightrows.htm .

thanks
jess

Mudge

Or again, www.exrx.net they have doggon near everything

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turtleguy11688

ok thanks i looked at that site earlier but couldnt find it,,but i looking again, oh will my trapezius muscles grow fast or like any other muscle,and to get them bigger fast should i use heavy weights or lighter,i would think heavy..
thanks again

Mudge

Thats an individual thing, mine are very stubborn. I do 5-6 sets, make sure your doing them fairly strictly. I switch up a bit between heavy/light, but I am between 10-15 reps honestly, if I go to heavy I can't pull up to "my ears" too well and what I'm doing now seems to be working for the most part.

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turtleguy11688

ok i will start tonight ,yea when i work out my biceps i start at 40# dumbells then 75# barebell,then 30# dumbells.it seems to be giving me a good workout, and for reps i usally get 12-15.
.so i will do the shoulder shrugs like i do my biceps.

And i dont do any anabolic steroids and stuff.
my brother has got a few bottles of andro and stuff and ive took some but nothing over a week,should i be taking some?

and whats the best stuff to buy?

thanks

turtleguy11688

cool, looks like they have everything,lol,,
thanks

Mudge

First priority is diet, supplements or not - diet is where its at. Muscles are meat, meat is protein - therefore to build more meat you need the food Hit up the diet forum and surf around...

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turtleguy11688

ok,,i have been making sure i get lots of protein.

Mudge

1g per pound as a start, and make sure to spread it through the day - because generally it wont sit in the system forever. Eventually gets absorbed/used, and you need a constant delivery, which is why people eat every ~3 hours.

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turtleguy11688

ok thanks

DRAKE KERRY

For back neck
Sit in a chair with the neck strengthener straps facing forward; weights between your legs. Slowly lower and rais your head.
For front neck
Sit in a chair with the neck strengthener straps behind you with the weights behind you; you'll have to lean back a little. Slowly raise and lower you head.
For side.
Lay across bench on your side with the neck strengthenerstraps facing the floor. Slowly raise and lower your head.
Yes it is uncomfortable as hell but it isn't $599.00

turtleguy11688

yea that does sound uncomfortable,lol .
i might order that on on ringside but they want 16 bucks just for shipping,lol,,im gonna try to see if big 5 sporting goods have one..lol

thanks

sli

If u can find a 4-way, they work wonders. I have been using one for only a couple months now and have seen great results....

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racoon02

We had no neck machine in highschool, but what we used to do for football, is you get somone to sit behind you with a towel, and hold your head a certain way with the towel. You then pull on the towel to create resistance, much like the neck machine.

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Mudge

Honestly I would not want to live without the neck machine. I was using 415 on the neck machine and I never went over 50 with the head strap, even holding it in place with my hands, I hate it.

PreMier

When I wrestled, we used to put a folded up towell on the floor and put our head on it. Then you lift your arms off the ground and roll from side to side(head and feet touching ground only). This is an excellent way to build your neck, but untill your strong enough to do it like this use your arms for support.

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