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The All Unknowing!!
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Body For Life
Can people "really" transform there body that fast (12 weeks) with only proper nutrition exercise and supplements?
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"The Harder You Work the Harder it is to Surrender."
-Vince Lombardi "The Harder You Work the Harder it is." -Trinsdad |
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Join Date: May 2003
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The human body is an amazing piece of work.
12 weeks is actually a long amount of time. You can really turn things around in 12 weeks. |
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I love the sound of clanging iron in the morning. It sounds like victory.
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The All Unknowing!!
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Wow man...I would cry if I could...
So far I am 20 pounds down...but I just started my weight lifting this week. I feel I have about 80 more to go to be ripped...but I will be grateful for half as good as those people look. ![]() |
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"The Harder You Work the Harder it is to Surrender."
-Vince Lombardi "The Harder You Work the Harder it is." -Trinsdad |
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Join Date: May 2003
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A few weeks into lifting weights and building muscle and that fat will start to cook.
Muscle fiber is very metabolic. A high metabolism will melt the fat. |
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I love the sound of clanging iron in the morning. It sounds like victory.
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Pizza the Hut
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I dont know alot about the program, but it seems to really work for some. However again its a "for life" program, not eat like a pig afterwards. I also believe they try to sell supplements? Most of which I'm sure are not needed at all, just another way to pump up the profit margin, but the theories supposedly are sound.
But again I dont know the program, just that a couple people I have come across have had good results with it. |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Well Read
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL
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I can personally attest that it “works” – but like anything in life you get out what you put in for the effort as long as you are focused on objectives and know what you are doing. What is particularly effective with BFL is just getting people to get the discipline to plan and manage their daily routines and nutrition – and to measure progress within a reasonable guideline of expectation (i.e. scale weight metrics are discouraged for body fat and clothes size changes). On any program or personal get fit free-for-all most people that want to lose fat or gain muscle (or both) are already motivated and many even have the knowledge (the 2nd biggest reason people fail in my opinion is lack of knowledge) but lack the planning discipline. Undisciplined motivation can be similar to a car spinning it’s wheels and not doing anything but spending energy and not producing anything effective for forward progress. On the BFL program people learn how important it is to plan your meals and schedule exercises in advance – so that you have a much much higher chance of actually eating what you know is healthy and doing the right progressive intensity levels in the gym. Supplements are considered important from a “convenience” factor mostly or to augment things like EFAs that are hard to get in proper ratios from from low fat foods.
Some people in the 20-30 lb overweight range can look like complete fitness model after one 12 week cycle. Those more overweight or in very bad physical shape (serious muscle atrophy) usually still have remarkable results but may require longer periods of time. I have seen before and after pictures of individuals who were over one hundred pounds overweight working 3 or 4 12 week cycles and looking like impressive fitness models in bathing suits/bikini’s after this program. BFL is also more about complete transformation rather than only physical since many people oftentimes have underlying emotional reasons for eating wrongly and the program is suppose to help inspire self esteem and confidence and thereby rectify these problems too. |
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"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..."
Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts... |
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the one & only
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I see body for life as a program for someone who is out of shape and just getting into fitness, or getting back into fitness.
There are some dramatic transformations, no doubt. However, many times the before pic is taken in bad lighting, they purposefully push out their guts, no tans, etc. In the after pics they're in optimal lighting, they're tan, oiled up, etc. |
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Yeah, I read it to, and then gave it away cause I do not like Bill Phillips.
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The All Unknowing!!
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: knoxville
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I didn't realize how "crappily" out of shape I had become until I took those pictures.
I stuck out my stomach though too. I will post my "Before and after" in 83 more days. Oh..by the way..I look at them now 2 times a day about 30 minutes before I go to do my double workouts...I get so mad..I'm back in the gym training like a mad man! |
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"The Harder You Work the Harder it is to Surrender."
-Vince Lombardi "The Harder You Work the Harder it is." -Trinsdad |
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Frankly, I suspect that most individuals, myself included, increase the intensity and modify BFL as they get themselves transformed and able to actually do a more sophisticated and “advance” program. But remember, BFL was specifically designed for the masses and the common average people. In this regard it works remarkably well. But its probably not optimal for pro-level competitors. |
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"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..."
Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts... |
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"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..."
Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts... |
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OceanDude, number one I am not jealous of Bill Philips, number two I do not like him cause he is a prick, the EAS corporate headquarters is right acrossed the street from where I work, although he no longer owns it, thirdly you must not know Bill's entire history.
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Prince, I did not mean to imply this about you personally at all - sorry if I hit a nerve. My comment was non-sepcific to anyone in particular - just sharing an observation. No, I do not personally know his entire history nor do I want to invite slander on him or anyone else around here. But would be interested in a hearing any juicy details you might have with a private message ... |
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"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..."
Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts... |
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![]() juicy details, naaahh, won't get into that, but I will say that he puts on quite the facade though, you can draw you own conclusions. |
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thanks IAB.
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Actually Bill is looking very good in his latest photos: Last edited by OceanDude : 07-14-2003 at 05:11 PM. |
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"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..."
Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts... |
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The All Unknowing!!
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: knoxville
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What....you mean I WON'T be able to look like him following his workout and cardio?
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"The Harder You Work the Harder it is to Surrender."
-Vince Lombardi "The Harder You Work the Harder it is." -Trinsdad |
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btw, one of the reasons (there are many) that I dislike him is when he was still the owner of EAS he refused to support any of the local bodybuilding shows/organizations, despite the fact that his company had millions to spare. Hell, he could of at least just offered some supplement packages to the winners.
I saw this as a complete contradiction for a supplement company who's primary customer base were/are bodybuilders. |
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You Lack Intensity!!!!
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My reason to not like Bill Phillips, the money was more important to him than the love of the sport. He was invloved in a great hardcore magazine that was informative and useful for real BBs, but instead he chose to go mainstream.
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Now that magazine sucks so bad I do not even pick it up if it's the only mag on the rack at Wal-mart.That is the point I was making about his facade, he only cares about the money, hence the reason he sold EAS. |
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