rogerc

In regards to the derogatory comments regarding Bob Paris. Is this a breeding grounds for homophobes? If so, that is fine with me, but I'll just unenroll and ask for my ten bucks back.

Whew. Glad I only have one other post.

Thanks....

OceanDude

Hey rogerc. This is an adult board where everyone has their own opinions and a lot of the conventional thinking about body building is openly debunked and debated. It's a lively collection of people including mavericks, anti-establishment types, intellectuals, dumb asses, conservatives, liberals, moral, amoral, politically correct as well as free thinkers. So like life in the real world expect a wide range of diverse opinions without a lot of Politically Correct censorship. If that’s too hard to deal with – I suggest you might be more happy going to Disney World on a day of the year that is most appealing to you. Since you are bound to run into some frustration here.

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We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems.

The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth.

His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts...

asiansensation

Lee Labrada wihout a doubt! I met him once in NYC. A very nice guy and a successful businessman.

TJ Cline

Zane was born in 1942 ( makes him around 63), so I think it's unfair to compare him to Levrone or Ray who both were still competing and on Massive HGH ect. at the time of the TV show, Zane is natural now and not trying to be Mr Olympia ect.
Zane has it over Labrada, both are great but Lee was thick in the waist compared to Zane and also very short and blocky.

TJ Cline

You simply can't compare different generations of bodybuilders like that. Arnold and the other bodybuilders of his time were not using GH and all the newer drugs like Haney and the bodybuilders of today ( 1983 Haney was 230, 1984 Haney was 249...wow thats some hard work...GH) Sergio and Arnold would still most likely be the best in the 80's or now if that was the time in which they were in their prime. Just like Ali would still most likely be #1 in Boxing if he was 25 years old and fighting now.

musclepump

I would think more insulin than GH. GH is a very slow moving process; doubt it's worth 19 pounds in a year.

Let's all join together and SPEAK ENGLISH IN AMERICA.

TJ Cline

I have never used either so I don't know, all I'm saying is 1975 compared to 2005 is about 50lbs of new drugs...at least.

VipeR

call me crazy, but i think coleman has nice symmetry aswell

TJ Cline

Arnold did whatever it took to win. After his defeat in 1968 to Zane Arnold did what no bodybuilder had ever done. He got ripped and huge, and in his day his legs were fine. Jump to 1980+ "if" bodybuilding was all Arnold had, he would of destroyed Haney ( as even Weider said). At 237 in 1974, Arnold would have blown up like haney did in 1984 ( Haney was reported to be 230 in 1983, and 248 in 1984...reported...more like 220 and 235). Arnold would have used modern sports medicine and competed at 255 or more in the 1980-1990.

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Sergio Oliva, Shawn Ray, Lee Labrada, Paul Dillett

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