Body hair?

Jim1954 · 08-16-2003, 05:47 AM

This may not be the correct forum, but I am wondering if there are others that have been balding for years, and have increased body hair. When I was young (48 now) I had a full head of hair, of course over the years it has all but disappeared from the top of my head, and increased on my back, where previously hair was minimum. I guess the question I am asking, what hormonal things are happening here, and how does it effect ones ability to build muscle? Does it have any effect at all? Seems I get more body hair with age, I take my shirt off, and look like I am wearing a sweater!

OceanDude · 08-16-2003, 07:08 AM

Hmm. I am certain that this is hormonal related but I am not certain of the precise mechanisms involved. I think in general hair and baldness in men is pretty much determined by your mother's genetics as evidenced by the men in her family. If your mother’s brothers tend to be bald then I am told it’s inevitable you will tend toward baldness. But I am 47 and have a full head of hair with very little grey and my mother’s family has some partial baldness. So the rule, at least in my case, is not sacrosanct. Since I have enjoined rigorous exercise I have noticed that I have more and darker body hair growing on my legs only (especially inner thigh and groin are). Also my goatee seems to be much darker and thicker and grows much faster. But, I have noticed that when I shower and shampoo I find more hair in the shower drain. So I seem to be shedding hair more rapidly than I use to – about twice as much. But I also think I am growing hair more rapidly and it’s not noticeably thinner. But that is the extent of it since I have naturally been almost bald on my chest and completely so on my back all my life (which I am thankful for) and it continues to be so. My young lady hair stylist makes a point of trimming a few dark hairs that have started to grow around the edges of the ears and jokes that it is common in men as they get older. She claims she was taught that this happens due to hormonal changes with age and she makes a point to look for it and keep it all “tidy”. I have also heard of a number of people (both men & women) who claim that when they went on a severe fat loss programs that it’s common for the hair to thin out from all the stress and hormonal activity. But this condition is supposed to be temporary.

All in all I think that you can expect elevated levels of testos and GH and IGF-1 to be produced as a result of heavy resistance training. I am almost certain that Science has proven this conclusively.

Jim1954 · 08-16-2003, 09:56 AM

OceanDude,

My mother had no brothers, and my grandfather never knew who is father was. You can bet he was one tough guy, since being born illegitimately in the 1890's was considered taboo, (for lack of a better word), as you can imagine he had to stick up for himself.
Just a little story.......no extra charge.

The genetic reasons for the way I am this way really aren't important, I was just curious if it had to do with hormonal imbalances, or something of that nature. I would rather not be bald and hairy, but genetics is something you can't do anything about.

I started shaving my head a couple of years ago, and have a goatee too, although it is mostly white. Doing this has made me look years younger, and a lot of woman have given me compliments. Of course being lean will sure take the years off too!

Thanks for the reply, you're a regular encyclopedia of info.

OceanDude · 08-16-2003, 10:06 AM

Jim. if I were a betting man I'd put money on the notion that you just are genetically pre-dispositioned to have more body hair and tend toward some form of partial baldness. The exercise and high protein diet I am fairly certain will promote faster and denser hair growth in areas where you have active hair cells.

I agree, it's absolutely amazing how losing 20 lbs of fat will make you look over 10 years younger. Body fat has psychologically become a marker for "age" in our society. It screws up everyone’s calibration points when an older guy walks around all buff and I also find that the younger women love it. No doubt some look up to you as a "dad" type figure but others are genuinely attracted to a more mature, wise, confident and financially stable older man. I would never go back to my 20's given the choice to start over.

**Mudge** · 08-16-2003, 11:22 AM

Testosterone increases body hair, but supposedly (I thought anyway) that DHT was primarily responsible for MPB, which are only partially related. People who supplement with testosterone directly also get increased body hair.

Jim1954 · 08-16-2003, 11:57 AM

OceanDude,

Well, you know the old saying, "If I only knew then, what I know now"

Mudge, can you translate that last post of yours, I'm just learning a lot of this stuff. Thanks.

**Mudge** · 08-16-2003, 12:58 PM

People with high testosterone levels usually have lots of body hair

Jim1954 · 08-17-2003, 05:27 AM

Thanks Mudge.

BlackLabelSDMF · 08-17-2003, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
People with high testosterone levels usually have lots of body hair

Really? Know any places where I could read up on this? I must be dripping in testosterone then!

**Mudge** · 08-17-2003, 01:53 PM

I can point to angry Italians, but I do not believe that testosterone makes people angry, not directly.

Other than that all I can tell you is testosterone users start growing body hair like never before, usually just more of it in places they already have hair.

nectron101 · 08-17-2003, 05:19 PM

What's the best way to remove hair?
exclude razors, I hate them!!!

I used nair for women "men's one is not available here", but it doesn't take off the hair, it cuts it...
should I leave the spray on for more time??

Rissole · 08-17-2003, 05:28 PM

Whats really happening here is that your getting taller!!
As you grow your hair cant keep up, and thats why the hair is coming out your back.

gr81 · 08-17-2003, 10:38 PM

ha ha

Rissole · 08-17-2003, 11:30 PM

Thankyou, i do what i can

Jim1954 · 08-18-2003, 03:43 AM

[Whats really happening here is that your getting taller!!
As you grow your hair cant keep up, and thats why the hair is coming out your back.]

hmmmm, never would have thought about that one!

Mustorso · 12-24-2003, 12:02 PM

Jim1954 let's see a picture of your furry body, we're curious.

Trump · 12-24-2003, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustorso
Jim1954 let's see a picture of your furry body, it's my fetish.

awwwwww c'mon man

Deeznuts · 12-24-2003, 12:27 PM

To avoid razor burn Nair for Men is available.

plouffe · 12-24-2003, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mudge
I can point to angry Italians, but I do not believe that testosterone makes people angry, not directly.

Other than that all I can tell you is testosterone users start growing body hair like never before, usually just more of it in places they already have hair.

ITALIANS! WHOO WHOO!!!

08-16-2003, 05:47 AM	#1
Jim1954 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 149 Photos: 3	Body hair? This may not be the correct forum, but I am wondering if there are others that have been balding for years, and have increased body hair. When I was young (48 now) I had a full head of hair, of course over the years it has all but disappeared from the top of my head, and increased on my back, where previously hair was minimum. I guess the question I am asking, what hormonal things are happening here, and how does it effect ones ability to build muscle? Does it have any effect at all? Seems I get more body hair with age, I take my shirt off, and look like I am wearing a sweater!
	Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. Yogi Berra

08-16-2003, 07:08 AM	#2
OceanDude Well Read Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Posts: 1,853	Hmm. I am certain that this is hormonal related but I am not certain of the precise mechanisms involved. I think in general hair and baldness in men is pretty much determined by your mother's genetics as evidenced by the men in her family. If your mother’s brothers tend to be bald then I am told it’s inevitable you will tend toward baldness. But I am 47 and have a full head of hair with very little grey and my mother’s family has some partial baldness. So the rule, at least in my case, is not sacrosanct. Since I have enjoined rigorous exercise I have noticed that I have more and darker body hair growing on my legs only (especially inner thigh and groin are). Also my goatee seems to be much darker and thicker and grows much faster. But, I have noticed that when I shower and shampoo I find more hair in the shower drain. So I seem to be shedding hair more rapidly than I use to – about twice as much. But I also think I am growing hair more rapidly and it’s not noticeably thinner. But that is the extent of it since I have naturally been almost bald on my chest and completely so on my back all my life (which I am thankful for) and it continues to be so. My young lady hair stylist makes a point of trimming a few dark hairs that have started to grow around the edges of the ears and jokes that it is common in men as they get older. She claims she was taught that this happens due to hormonal changes with age and she makes a point to look for it and keep it all “tidy”. I have also heard of a number of people (both men & women) who claim that when they went on a severe fat loss programs that it’s common for the hair to thin out from all the stress and hormonal activity. But this condition is supposed to be temporary. All in all I think that you can expect elevated levels of testos and GH and IGF-1 to be produced as a result of heavy resistance training. I am almost certain that Science has proven this conclusively.
	"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..." Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts...

08-16-2003, 09:56 AM	#3
Jim1954 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 149 Photos: 3	OceanDude, My mother had no brothers, and my grandfather never knew who is father was. You can bet he was one tough guy, since being born illegitimately in the 1890's was considered taboo, (for lack of a better word), as you can imagine he had to stick up for himself. Just a little story.......no extra charge. The genetic reasons for the way I am this way really aren't important, I was just curious if it had to do with hormonal imbalances, or something of that nature. I would rather not be bald and hairy, but genetics is something you can't do anything about. I started shaving my head a couple of years ago, and have a goatee too, although it is mostly white. Doing this has made me look years younger, and a lot of woman have given me compliments. Of course being lean will sure take the years off too! Thanks for the reply, you're a regular encyclopedia of info.
	Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. Yogi Berra

08-16-2003, 10:06 AM	#4
OceanDude Well Read Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Posts: 1,853	Jim. if I were a betting man I'd put money on the notion that you just are genetically pre-dispositioned to have more body hair and tend toward some form of partial baldness. The exercise and high protein diet I am fairly certain will promote faster and denser hair growth in areas where you have active hair cells. I agree, it's absolutely amazing how losing 20 lbs of fat will make you look over 10 years younger. Body fat has psychologically become a marker for "age" in our society. It screws up everyone’s calibration points when an older guy walks around all buff and I also find that the younger women love it. No doubt some look up to you as a "dad" type figure but others are genuinely attracted to a more mature, wise, confident and financially stable older man. I would never go back to my 20's given the choice to start over.
	"Doc, If I had known I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself..." Est unusquisque faber ipsae suae fortunae. We Americans scoff at the likes of African witch doctors yet spend 100's of millions of dollars on fake reducing systems. The only regular exercise he gets is stretching the truth. His intellect is not replenished, he is only an animal, only sensible in the duller parts...

08-16-2003, 11:22 AM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Testosterone increases body hair, but supposedly (I thought anyway) that DHT was primarily responsible for MPB, which are only partially related. People who supplement with testosterone directly also get increased body hair.
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08-16-2003, 11:57 AM	#6
Jim1954 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 149 Photos: 3	OceanDude, Well, you know the old saying, "If I only knew then, what I know now" Mudge, can you translate that last post of yours, I'm just learning a lot of this stuff. Thanks.
	Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. Yogi Berra

08-16-2003, 12:58 PM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	People with high testosterone levels usually have lots of body hair
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

08-17-2003, 05:27 AM	#8
Jim1954 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 149 Photos: 3	Thanks Mudge.
	Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. Yogi Berra

08-17-2003, 01:53 PM	#10
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	I can point to angry Italians, but I do not believe that testosterone makes people angry, not directly. Other than that all I can tell you is testosterone users start growing body hair like never before, usually just more of it in places they already have hair.
	Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks

08-17-2003, 05:19 PM	#11
nectron101 GYM ghost Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: GYM Posts: 184 Photos: 3	What's the best way to remove hair? exclude razors, I hate them!!! I used nair for women "men's one is not available here", but it doesn't take off the hair, it cuts it... should I leave the spray on for more time??
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08-17-2003, 05:28 PM	#12
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Whats really happening here is that your getting taller!! As you grow your hair cant keep up, and thats why the hair is coming out your back.
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08-17-2003, 10:38 PM	#13
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	ha ha
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08-17-2003, 11:30 PM	#14
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,289 Photos: 36	Thankyou, i do what i can
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08-18-2003, 03:43 AM	#15
Jim1954 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 149 Photos: 3	[Whats really happening here is that your getting taller!! As you grow your hair cant keep up, and thats why the hair is coming out your back.] hmmmm, never would have thought about that one!
	Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. Yogi Berra

12-24-2003, 12:02 PM	#16
Mustorso Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 2	Jim1954 let's see a picture of your furry body, we're curious.

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