Is a 1 hour 45 min weights workout too long?

Tha Don · 08-31-2003, 01:19 PM

I took 1 hour 45 mins to do my workout in the gym today....

I spent 1 hour on my chest (consisting of d/b incline press, d/b bench press, machine press, incline flys, dips)

25 mins on my back (lat pulldown wide grip, lat pulldown narrow grip, seated row, one arm bench row)

15 mins on my abs (swiss ball crunches, long arm crunches)

<<I will normally rest 2 mins inbetween sets, I do 2-3 sets on each exercise>>

I've been told you should keep your workouts no longer than 1 hour long, however personally I'd much rather take a lil longer n' rip my muscles well, rather than whizz or rush my workout

any suggestions on how I could shorten them? how long do yours take?

**Mudge** · 08-31-2003, 01:24 PM

IMO twice too long, I keep it 45-60. I am also using a 2 minute rest (1:50 on my watch), which is considered rather lengthy, 60-90 seconds is probably more common.

One hour for the little tiny chest and 25 minutes on your back? For me currently 8-10 sets for chest and I just did 14 for back last time I went. Thats not even counting lower back which is on leg day for me.

1) Chest - Abs
2) Back
3) Delts Traps Neck
4) Arms - Abs
5) Legs
6/7) OFF

Fit Freak · 08-31-2003, 04:13 PM

Really....over twice the time to train chest compared to back....

**Prince** · 08-31-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by young d
I've been told you should keep your workouts no longer than 1 hour long...

That is correct you should listen to that advice.

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however personally I'd much rather take a lil longer n' rip my muscles well, rather than whizz or rush my workout

Ripping muscles with excessive amounts of sets is not what causes growth. You can overload a muscle and cause hypertrophy in 3 sets if done properly.

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any suggestions on how I could shorten them? how long do yours take?

Stop doing so many sets and exercies, it's not necessary, ultimately you will end up in a state of overtraining.

SolidToTheCORE · 08-31-2003, 04:28 PM

I agree with Mudge ... you are spending way too much in on your chest ... I would go so far as to tell you to get out of your workout earlier. 1 hour is enough, depending on your goals and if you geared up or not.

What is you rest period between sets?
What is you % per ORM (one rep max) you are training at?

These things factor in when you as is 1 hour or 2 hours best for me.

Jezziah · 08-31-2003, 04:51 PM

1 hr 45 min is too long depending on what your training goals are...you should not use a two minute rest between sets unless you are training for power.

If you are training for size I would recomend a 30 to 60 second rest between sets. As fare as spending 25 minutes on back whats up with that? Your back could be a training day unto itself!

**Mudge** · 08-31-2003, 04:57 PM

Studies show supposedly 60-90 seconds for size according to my reading, 30 seconds would more for keeping the heart rate up, like in a circuit training setup.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-31-2003, 05:05 PM

Damn, yo. I don't think I could last 1:45 in the gym! I'd drop from exhaustion.

My workouts last between 45 and 60 minutes. Sometimes my leg workouts push 1:15, but those days are rare.

**Mudge** · 08-31-2003, 05:11 PM

Yeah, if you can honestly workout that long it would make me think perhaps your not pushing yourself as hard as you can, and to me that is more important than total time elapsed.

SolidToTheCORE · 08-31-2003, 06:52 PM

I agree with you Mudge. Totally agree.

BigBallaGA · 08-31-2003, 08:22 PM

how can 1 hour be enough. i mean, i like to spend good 1 1/2 - 2 hours in teh gym, and the time goes by sooo quick. i actually feel like i can work out another 2 hours afterwards, not on gear just cassein and whey. workout every other day, get lots of sleep.

input ?

**Mudge** · 08-31-2003, 09:00 PM

Well if you go back to 1980 and you juice up a bit you'd fit right in with those long workouts.

How is it enough? I really dont understand that, it is a very odd day for me if I have even minutely high energy levels after one of my workouts, and I dont even think I have mentally found the barrier yet.

rkurashima · 08-31-2003, 09:01 PM

You need to focus on each and every rep you are doing. Concentrate on the exact muscle you are using and contract it with all you got no matter what weight you are using for that set. If you are are shooting for 10-12 reps per set make sure that you abosolutely cannot push it past 12. If you can you need to add more weight. You need to train with a total intensity using all the power and intestinal fortitude you got. Any less and you are bullshitting in the gym. Grab your shit, get out so others can use the equipment, go home and re-evaluate what you are trying to accomplish during your workout. Train hard both physically and mentally. On the days I feel sluggish or unmotivated I try and square myself away during the drive to the gym. Put yourself in a mental mode of going to war. Not to have a energizing, refreshing workout. Crap!!! Get pissed of and push yourself. This is just my way of working out and it may seem psycho for some. I definitely don't fuck around in the gym though. I am extrememly anti-social in the gym and I don't even like seeing anyone or talking to anyone in the gym. I'm not there for that shit. I'm there to break my body down and make it beg for forgiveness. You can't do that for 1 hour and 45 minutes

**Mudge** · 08-31-2003, 09:03 PM

I think you should hook up with GoPro and lets see what he can put you through.

gr81 · 08-31-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by BigBallaGA
how can 1 hour be enough. i mean, i like to spend good 1 1/2 - 2 hours in teh gym, and the time goes by sooo quick. i actually feel like i can work out another 2 hours afterwards, not on gear just cassein and whey. workout every other day, get lots of sleep.

input ?

If you can train that long and not be fatigued you need to increase your intensity level big time. your hormone levels drop signifigantly after a certain amount of time, it is just unproductive. Intensity level is the key.

SolidToTheCORE · 09-01-2003, 12:02 AM

sounds like someone is bullsh*tten

SolidToTheCORE · 09-01-2003, 12:03 AM

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gr81 · 09-01-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by SolidToTheCORE
sounds like someone is bullsh*tten

I know that you aren't saying I am bullshitin, no bullsit here. And as for my sig, oh yeah, think of it as a male public service, it is the least I can do.

RCfootball87 · 09-01-2003, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by gr81
And as for my sig, oh yeah, think of it as a male public service, it is the least I can do.

I like the girl on the left best, nothing better than a nice ass.

gr81 · 09-01-2003, 01:02 AM

ha ha lol, RC those are all pics of the same girl, trish stratus. hey, good times. Glad U like

buff_tat2d_chic · 09-01-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Mudge
Yeah, if you can honestly workout that long it would make me think perhaps your not pushing yourself as hard as you can, and to me that is more important than total time elapsed.

ditto

I find that if I push myself as hard as I can...after an hour, I am exhausted. I can't go any farther.

SolidToTheCORE · 09-01-2003, 01:13 AM

GR8 - your not bullshitten ...Young d is and his awesome training.

" dude i trained for like 3 hours on my calves and 15 mins on my quads , i am like so not even feeling it. maybe i should try some suston or maybe i should do more cardio."

gr81 · 09-01-2003, 02:29 AM

ha ha

Tha Don · 09-01-2003, 04:35 AM

lol

i'm still a bit stuck, personally i think i need to cut my rest time from 2 mins to 1 min, i think i'm relying on my long rests a bit too much

peace

Terok`Nor · 09-01-2003, 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by BigBallaGA
how can 1 hour be enough. i mean, i like to spend good 1 1/2 - 2 hours in teh gym, and the time goes by sooo quick.

I don't think fatigue is the goal of a workout, rather a by product?

rkurashima · 09-01-2003, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by Terok`Nor
I don't think fatigue is the goal of a workout, rather a by product?

The ultimate goal is to get bigger, stronger and/or ripped. The goal for each and rep should be fatigue. TOTAL MUSCULAR FAILURE. I know some techniques call for stopping short of failure. That's fine...for the folks with a specific plan in mind and know exactly what they are trying to accomplish by doing it. I never push my warmup set(s) past failure and granted for those of us that lift solo, you simply can't go to failure on some exercises.

Got another question for you guys out there. Beign anti-social in the gym puts me at a disadvantage as far as learning what others are doing and getting training info. Out of the gym I'm a little more social, but none of the guys I work with are into this lifestyle. Question is: Am I outdated using the Weider Principles?

SolidToTheCORE · 09-01-2003, 11:24 AM

RK-

No not really - but there is much more to it than that. I suggest you read and research different techinques to add to your knowledge. I can honestly say that I have NEVER learned anything from anyone in the gym, well, expect when I was 15 and a guy showed me the wonders of squats and dips. FLEX is a good resource most of the info is good. If you are totally serious about gaining more knowledge try to get certified (ISSAONLINE.COM) or just do some CEU's to learn (dswfitness.com)

gr81 · 09-01-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by rkurashima
The ultimate goal is to get bigger, stronger and/or ripped. The goal for each and rep should be fatigue. TOTAL MUSCULAR FAILURE. I know some te

08-31-2003, 01:19 PM	#1
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	Is a 1 hour 45 min weights workout too long? I took 1 hour 45 mins to do my workout in the gym today.... I spent 1 hour on my chest (consisting of d/b incline press, d/b bench press, machine press, incline flys, dips) 25 mins on my back (lat pulldown wide grip, lat pulldown narrow grip, seated row, one arm bench row) 15 mins on my abs (swiss ball crunches, long arm crunches) <<I will normally rest 2 mins inbetween sets, I do 2-3 sets on each exercise>> I've been told you should keep your workouts no longer than 1 hour long, however personally I'd much rather take a lil longer n' rip my muscles well, rather than whizz or rush my workout any suggestions on how I could shorten them? how long do yours take?

08-31-2003, 04:13 PM	#3
Fit Freak Fit Freak Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,797 Photos: 6	Really....over twice the time to train chest compared to back....
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08-31-2003, 04:28 PM	#5
SolidToTheCORE Devil Dawg Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 195	I agree with Mudge ... you are spending way too much in on your chest ... I would go so far as to tell you to get out of your workout earlier. 1 hour is enough, depending on your goals and if you geared up or not. What is you rest period between sets? What is you % per ORM (one rep max) you are training at? These things factor in when you as is 1 hour or 2 hours best for me.
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08-31-2003, 04:51 PM	#6
Jezziah Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 168	1 hr 45 min is too long depending on what your training goals are...you should not use a two minute rest between sets unless you are training for power. If you are training for size I would recomend a 30 to 60 second rest between sets. As fare as spending 25 minutes on back whats up with that? Your back could be a training day unto itself!
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08-31-2003, 06:52 PM	#10
SolidToTheCORE Devil Dawg Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 195	I agree with you Mudge. Totally agree.
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08-31-2003, 01:24 PM	#2
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	IMO twice too long, I keep it 45-60. I am also using a 2 minute rest (1:50 on my watch), which is considered rather lengthy, 60-90 seconds is probably more common. One hour for the little tiny chest and 25 minutes on your back? For me currently 8-10 sets for chest and I just did 14 for back last time I went. Thats not even counting lower back which is on leg day for me. 1) Chest - Abs 2) Back 3) Delts Traps Neck 4) Arms - Abs 5) Legs 6/7) OFF

08-31-2003, 04:57 PM	#7
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Studies show supposedly 60-90 seconds for size according to my reading, 30 seconds would more for keeping the heart rate up, like in a circuit training setup.

08-31-2003, 05:05 PM	#8
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 10,988 Photos: 10	Damn, yo. I don't think I could last 1:45 in the gym! I'd drop from exhaustion. My workouts last between 45 and 60 minutes. Sometimes my leg workouts push 1:15, but those days are rare.

08-31-2003, 05:11 PM	#9
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Yeah, if you can honestly workout that long it would make me think perhaps your not pushing yourself as hard as you can, and to me that is more important than total time elapsed.

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08-31-2003, 09:00 PM	#12
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	Well if you go back to 1980 and you juice up a bit you'd fit right in with those long workouts. How is it enough? I really dont understand that, it is a very odd day for me if I have even minutely high energy levels after one of my workouts, and I dont even think I have mentally found the barrier yet.

08-31-2003, 09:01 PM	#13
rkurashima Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 19 Photos: 1	You need to focus on each and every rep you are doing. Concentrate on the exact muscle you are using and contract it with all you got no matter what weight you are using for that set. If you are are shooting for 10-12 reps per set make sure that you abosolutely cannot push it past 12. If you can you need to add more weight. You need to train with a total intensity using all the power and intestinal fortitude you got. Any less and you are bullshitting in the gym. Grab your shit, get out so others can use the equipment, go home and re-evaluate what you are trying to accomplish during your workout. Train hard both physically and mentally. On the days I feel sluggish or unmotivated I try and square myself away during the drive to the gym. Put yourself in a mental mode of going to war. Not to have a energizing, refreshing workout. Crap!!! Get pissed of and push yourself. This is just my way of working out and it may seem psycho for some. I definitely don't fuck around in the gym though. I am extrememly anti-social in the gym and I don't even like seeing anyone or talking to anyone in the gym. I'm not there for that shit. I'm there to break my body down and make it beg for forgiveness. You can't do that for 1 hour and 45 minutes
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08-31-2003, 09:03 PM	#14
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,053 Photos: 1	I think you should hook up with GoPro and lets see what he can put you through.

09-01-2003, 12:02 AM	#16
SolidToTheCORE Devil Dawg Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 195	sounds like someone is bullsh*tten
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09-01-2003, 12:03 AM	#17
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09-01-2003, 01:02 AM	#20
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09-01-2003, 01:13 AM	#22
SolidToTheCORE Devil Dawg Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 195	GR8 - your not bullshitten ...Young d is and his awesome training. " dude i trained for like 3 hours on my calves and 15 mins on my quads , i am like so not even feeling it. maybe i should try some suston or maybe i should do more cardio."
	The Time is Now.

09-01-2003, 02:29 AM	#23
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09-01-2003, 04:35 AM	#24
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	lol i'm still a bit stuck, personally i think i need to cut my rest time from 2 mins to 1 min, i think i'm relying on my long rests a bit too much peace

09-01-2003, 11:24 AM	#27
SolidToTheCORE Devil Dawg Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 195	RK- No not really - but there is much more to it than that. I suggest you read and research different techinques to add to your knowledge. I can honestly say that I have NEVER learned anything from anyone in the gym, well, expect when I was 15 and a guy showed me the wonders of squats and dips. FLEX is a good resource most of the info is good. If you are totally serious about gaining more knowledge try to get certified (ISSAONLINE.COM) or just do some CEU's to learn (dswfitness.com)
	The Time is Now.