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    i really need some help guys

    well, my weight training coach has decided for us to lift on monday, tuesday, wednesday, and friday. how could i split up traps, back, shoulders, bis, tris, chest, and legs? could anyone help me without with a new program now that my teacher has made these days the only days i can lift on.

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    mon-chest/bis
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    fri-shoulders/traps
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    Just curious sword, why does he have you training 3 days in a row?? Depending on what kind of training you are doing, it sounds like you could benefit from throwing a rest day in there somewhere IMO.

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    yep i agree.. 3 days in a row working out sounds bad...i used to do that.. was bad.. i dont reccomend it

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    it does depend on what type of training he is doing but usuall that spells overtraining.

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    it does, i really dont like it, i wish he could change it but he is kind of a stubborn guy. how about this, how about a 3 day split? monday, wednesday, and friday?where could i put in grip work/forearm work also? how does that sound? what kind of splits can you guys think of for mon, wed, fri?

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    That split would give your stressed muscle a larger time frame to recover for sure. Who is this guy anyways, you know for teh most part PTs know nothing more about weight training than the everage person (speaking in generalizations, I know there are some on IM that know their shit). If I were you I would just keep researching info and make some type of plan from the knowledge you gain if these are the type of things he is telling you to do. You can do a chest/tris, back/bis and legs/shoulders or aomething to that effect-just an example. Does that answer your ? somewhat, if not holla back bro.

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    ok, i gotcha. ill just kinda poke at my program and throw in the stuff thats important. the thing that helps me out the most in getting bigger is eating good, and sticking to the big 3, squat, bench, and deadlifts.

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    hmm, wait just a sec gr81, if i put shoulders and legs together, my triceps will be worked hard and i will be sore for my chest/tri workout.

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    Originally posted by swordfish
    it does, i really dont like it, i wish he could change it but he is kind of a stubborn guy. how about this, how about a 3 day split? monday, wednesday, and friday?where could i put in grip work/forearm work also? how does that sound? what kind of splits can you guys think of for mon, wed, fri?

    Monday:chest,back
    Wednesday:arms,shoulders
    Friday:legs
    Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

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    I don't think it is a good idea to train the chest and back in the same training session, two major muscle groups, they need their own day IMHO. Nothing wrong sword with training arms twice in a week, they recover pretty quick. I train my tris with the chest, bis with back and the nhave another arm day most of the times. If you think you are gonna hit them again in a few days and you are worried about it, don't go to failure and chosse different exercise to do. Also one WO you can do a heavy low rep session, and then the next you can do a light high rep WO with varying movements, that wouldn't be overtraining. One WO resruits the fast twitch fibers and one recruit the slow titch fibers, you should be all good. Make sense??

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    Originally posted by gr81
    I don't think it is a good idea to train the chest and back in the same training session
    I agree, but he asked for a plan with 3 days out of the week.
    Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

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    its all good buddy buddy buddy. Just cause it works for me doesn't mean it will for everybody, ya know

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    i used to do chest/back, rest, arms/shoulders, rest, chest/back, rest and so on in a every other day routine (before I started working on my legs). That chest and back workout it a real killer, unless you have a lot of free time so you can get plenty of rest i wouldn't recommend it

    (oh and it was a chest/back workout that took me 45 mins, its a lot of stuff you gotta get done)

    best has gotta be chest/bi, back/tri, shoulders/legs

    peace

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    you guys will probably say that this is too little and undertraining but these are compound movements so i think this program looks damn good. i dont know who came up with this 4 or 5 exercises per body part but to be honest you guys are doing way too much. this covers all of it and next week i might do incline bench or pushdowns/ hammer curls etc. i can switch up everything. you dont need 12 sets per body part even if it is your back. i have done a lot of research on this and the way to bulk up is to have compound exercises eat right, and rest. you dont need to workout for 1 hour or more.

    Mon- 5x5 bench
    3x8 flyes
    3x8 close grip
    3x12 dips
    3x8 overhead press
    Wed- 3x8 deads
    3x8 bent rows
    3x8 pull ups
    4x8 bb curls
    3x8 db curls
    Fri- 3x8 squats
    3x10 leg press
    3x8 leg extensions
    3x12 shoulder shrugs
    3x8 upright rows

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