Thread: Arnold Schwarzenegger vs Dorian Yates

Originally Posted by juggernaut

That's actually a birth defect.

Can I have it too?

Originally Posted by DOMS

In that shot, Padilla seems to have better legs (better definition), but Franco destroys him in everything else I can see. Franco's lats were so big, it almost looks like a turtle shell. You can also see the delineation of the heads of his pecs.

That pic doesn't show the awful gyno on the one side, but I agree. Franco looks great in that shot. And he definitely benefited from legend status. All those years chasing Arnold, a former Mr. Olympia, and, yes, the merits of his own physique put him over the top.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

That's actually a birth defect.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Can I have it too?

Yeah, Franco was blessed with that unique split. Just like Boyer Coe's biceps.

I second that "Can I have it too?" request!

Thanks Jersey, I am just trying to keep it real. I think that it is no question natural body builders have more physically appealing bodies then those who take steroids.

At least in the 70's and 80's, most body builders still looked human. I am not sure if it is because we are learning more about training, nutrition, or there are just more effective drugs out there, but bodybuilders nowadays like Ronnie and Jay look straight up gross. Seriously, I cannot be the only person here to think so,and I realize this is a body building forum. Arnolds body actually looked beautiful. It seems like modern bodybuilding has become "ok, whoever can get the biggest, most absurd, inhuman bodies possible, wins."

Who here would actually rather have Jay Cutlers body in the picture over Venuto? If you are competing, and your goal and ultimate purpose in life is to win Mr Olympia, I understand. But in real life, with jobs, and relationships, and beach volleyball, and golf, sports, kids, walking and swimming, I think it is a no brainer.

Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege

Thanks Jersey, I am just trying to keep it real. I think that it is no question natural body builders have more physically appealing bodies then those who take steroids.

At least in the 70's and 80's, most body builders still looked human. I am not sure if it is because we are learning more about training, nutrition, or there are just more effective drugs out there, but bodybuilders nowadays like Ronnie and Jay look straight up gross. Seriously, I cannot be the only person here to think so,and I realize this is a body building forum. Arnolds body actually looked beautiful. It seems like modern bodybuilding has become "ok, whoever can get the biggest, most absurd, inhuman bodies possible, wins."

Who here would actually rather have Jay Cutlers body in the picture over Venuto? If you are competing, and your goal and ultimate purpose in life is to win Mr Olympia, I understand. But in real life, with jobs, and relationships, and beach volleyball, and golf, sports, kids, walking and swimming, I think it is a no brainer.

I too feel that bbing has taken a bad step in the wrong direction. I think Cutler, Coleman and a host of others look retarded. I prefer the symmetrical, aesthetic look to the bloated fat gut look. I'm a former natty who now uses only because it enables me to work harder and heal faster. I step onstage with not one of the biggest physiques, but by far a more symmetrical, "superhero" look. I dont give a shit about being the biggest, but offering something that looks obtainable. Plus, I dont care to win the Olympia, I'd like to turn pro, but if it doesnt happen, I'm not going to care. I have three fitness and health related businesses that are doing very well and I am happy with that. I have my family and friends that come to all of my shows and that is more rewarding than a title.

Originally Posted by ArnoldsProtege

Thanks Jersey, I am just trying to keep it real. I think that it is no question natural body builders have more physically appealing bodies then those who take steroids.

At least in the 70's and 80's, most body builders still looked human. I am not sure if it is because we are learning more about training, nutrition, or there are just more effective drugs out there, but bodybuilders nowadays like Ronnie and Jay look straight up gross. Seriously, I cannot be the only person here to think so,and I realize this is a body building forum. Arnolds body actually looked beautiful. It seems like modern bodybuilding has become "ok, whoever can get the biggest, most absurd, inhuman bodies possible, wins."

Who here would actually rather have Jay Cutlers body in the picture over Venuto? If you are competing, and your goal and ultimate purpose in life is to win Mr Olympia, I understand. But in real life, with jobs, and relationships, and beach volleyball, and golf, sports, kids, walking and swimming, I think it is a no brainer.

Another downside to the bodies of Jay and Ronnie is that, if they go a weekend without eating right and exercising, they can drop 10 pounds. It's kind of like a prison. But hey, for them, it's a business.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Another downside to the bodies of Jay and Ronnie is that, if they go a weekend without eating right and exercising, they can drop 10 pounds. It's kind of like a prison. But hey, for them, it's a business.

It may be a business, but the costs are ridiculous. I'd like to see them not take half the gear they're using, as well as the HGH and see what happens. I bet they'd look a lot more aesthetic.

arnold admitted using steroids on the johnny carson show in the early eighties. and the older bbers used there fair share of gear. i think dorian is better but he took alot of gear to get there plus genetics. one pro said its a matter of how much gear you took as to where and how big you get plus genetics. they aint just taken 500mg teste wk plus ais and 50mg of anadrol, if you want to believe that well thats your choice. but this is what i know to be the truth in my opinion only cant speak only for myself, but like someone said who really knows the pros are not going to give out there secrets to no one. in my opinion only. peace everybody good thread by the way.

Originally Posted by unclem

arnold admitted using steroids on the johnny carson show in the early eighties. and the older bbers used there fair share of gear. i think dorian is better but he took alot of gear to get there plus genetics. one pro said its a matter of how much gear you took as to where and how big you get plus genetics. they aint just taken 500mg teste wk plus ais and 50mg of anadrol, if you want to believe that well thats your choice. but this is what i know to be the truth in my opinion only cant speak only for myself, but like someone said who really knows the pros are not going to give out there secrets to no one. in my opinion only. peace everybody good thread by the way.

holy shit your grammar is fucked.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

holy shit your grammar is fucked.

yeah there should be a few commas and stuff. i totally agree, it reads as if a second grader did it. my fault.

Originally Posted by unclem

yeah there should be a few commas and stuff. i totally agree, it reads as if a second grader did it. my fault.

Dont forget capitalization motherfucker!!!!

soon theyl be juggs grammer lessons lol

I used to teach. Cant be too far ahead.

cool

i got the pumping iron dvd and encyclop of bodybuilding .