I will never use effedrin again !

plouffe · 11-06-2003, 07:24 AM

" It's funny when you have decide weither to buy drugs or supplements with your cash " - plouffe

I used to into that shit, but i get more satisfaction out of lifting..

perfecto · 11-06-2003, 08:28 PM

if your talking about whats better drugs or lifting, id also have to say lifting killz any drug. besides costing a shit load of money, drugs are a form of escapism. when you lift you dont need to escape nothing cause your huge and every girl wants you haha thats abit simplified but thats the way it goes. plus the high you get when your liftin those heavy weights above your head is way better than some 30 minute peak of xtc

Fade · 11-06-2003, 08:32 PM

As said above...you waited too long to workout...you crashed

HoldDaMayo · 11-06-2003, 11:24 PM

I dont' crash after the ephedra wears off... i just feel normal... sounds to me like you should adjust your diet... when i eat healthy I feel good... when i don't eat enough of the good stuff, i feel like crap... ESPECIALLY when you're talking about the influence of drugs on your body... also, another HUGE factor is sleep... how much you had, how much you have had recently, the quality.... another factor is stress... i just think it's easy to blame the ephedra, because that really magnified how your body was feeling...

Dante B. · 11-06-2003, 11:31 PM

That is incredibly far from any general truth.

As you know, some people are incredibly sensitive to stimulants; just as well, some are more susceptible to the subsequent crash.

Granted, diet among other things can be a factor. But how you react is certainly not an adequate means to judge how the average person responds.

HoldDaMayo · 11-06-2003, 11:38 PM

but it's certainly a possibility that the real issue could be one of many other factors not related to the Ephedra...

Although, being the rational person I am, I agree... just because something affects person A one way, doesn't mean it will affect person B the same... point taken

SJ69 · 11-09-2003, 11:15 AM

My workout performance is increased at least 10% when I take Stacker 3 and drink coffee. Having said that, sometimes that 10% increase doesn't even bring me up to an average workout if I was way too tired to begin with. Also you have to lay off for a few weeks at a time or else it will looose its effectiveness.
Somedays are good, some are bad with or without epedrine, everyone knows that. One day you bench 315 for one the next day you'd be dead trying the same trick without a spotter.
BTW _ ALWAYS leave the collors OFF if benching without a spotter that way you can dump if you have to.

andyo · 11-10-2003, 04:51 AM

The only place I have only seen Yellow Jackets are at the Dairy Mart. Please tell me you did'nt buy them there!

Secondly, did you read the label right? If you are not used to Ephedrine, you should gradually work up to max dose.

It is people like you that gets shit banned!

seth042280 · 11-10-2003, 06:20 AM

Andyo
"Its people like you that gets shit banned"
ummm no its people that die that get it banned . I just told my experience .did you even read the entire thread ?

seth042280 · 11-11-2003, 02:31 PM

ok everyone . I am formally apologizing for the title of this thread. for the longest time I could not figure out what happened to me on bench night so I guess I blamed the new thing.(effedrin)...so I worked out last night and the same thing happened without the ef bomb. I thinbk that I have finally figured the problem. recently I have changed my diet to the 6 meals a day program and I added 2 more days into my workout. I really think that my body is just shocked from the change..this can be the only explanation I have for my bench reps going down from 235 to 185. I added seated row on weds and I think I am utilizing my triceps too much during the exercise. I hope this is the prob . these are the only things that I have changed . please reply

HoldDaMayo · 11-11-2003, 03:27 PM

I'm pretty sure you need to just listen to your body and try to adjust your diet and workout routine so you are always increasing in performance...

seth042280 · 11-11-2003, 03:36 PM

I was fine until I started more workouts. before all I did was bench on monday and curls on weds. and I progressed every single week whether it was reps or weight . I just dont want to only do thos 2 days . maybe I will add more targetes exercises on the same days as the other workouts . like skull crushers . ect . i will just do super sets. I am going to just do the normal workout and see if anything changed next monday .

clfhnger · 11-11-2003, 04:59 PM

lots of trash talk going on in this post. What happened to the Gym guys I know who are real cool, friendly, and never judge a new lifter, or someone with a question, or needing a spot. Don't confirm a bullshit stigma that gym rats are obnoxious assholes...

As far as Ehpedrine goes it is very simple: Don't over do it. Seriously, Ephedrine gets a bad name by people whom take way too much. Take alot and run, or try to eat, you'll be naseuous and so on. Same as if you took 6 caffeine pills. I'm 190, I take 25 mg's right before working out. If I was over 225, maybe 50 mg's. Yopu'll have great results that way. Taking more is just not necessary. More is never better with stimulants, particularly ephedrine

Andrew

11-06-2003, 07:24 AM	#31
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	" It's funny when you have decide weither to buy drugs or supplements with your cash " - plouffe I used to into that shit, but i get more satisfaction out of lifting..
	These are my favorite faces : - - - Personal Bests: Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 X 17 Squat - 315 X 11 40 yrd. - 4.65

11-06-2003, 08:28 PM	#32
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	if your talking about whats better drugs or lifting, id also have to say lifting killz any drug. besides costing a shit load of money, drugs are a form of escapism. when you lift you dont need to escape nothing cause your huge and every girl wants you haha thats abit simplified but thats the way it goes. plus the high you get when your liftin those heavy weights above your head is way better than some 30 minute peak of xtc
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-06-2003, 11:24 PM	#34
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	I dont' crash after the ephedra wears off... i just feel normal... sounds to me like you should adjust your diet... when i eat healthy I feel good... when i don't eat enough of the good stuff, i feel like crap... ESPECIALLY when you're talking about the influence of drugs on your body... also, another HUGE factor is sleep... how much you had, how much you have had recently, the quality.... another factor is stress... i just think it's easy to blame the ephedra, because that really magnified how your body was feeling...
	Are you kidding me????

11-06-2003, 11:31 PM	#35
Dante B. Non Compost Mentis Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 598 Photos: 8	That is incredibly far from any general truth. As you know, some people are incredibly sensitive to stimulants; just as well, some are more susceptible to the subsequent crash. Granted, diet among other things can be a factor. But how you react is certainly not an adequate means to judge how the average person responds.
	Not to see many things, not to hear many things, not to permit many things to come close - first imperative of prudence, first proof that one is no mere accident but a necessity. Friedrich Nietzsche - Ecce Homo

11-06-2003, 11:38 PM	#36
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	but it's certainly a possibility that the real issue could be one of many other factors not related to the Ephedra... Although, being the rational person I am, I agree... just because something affects person A one way, doesn't mean it will affect person B the same... point taken
	Are you kidding me????

11-06-2003, 08:32 PM	#33
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	As said above...you waited too long to workout...you crashed

11-09-2003, 11:15 AM	#37
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	My workout performance is increased at least 10% when I take Stacker 3 and drink coffee. Having said that, sometimes that 10% increase doesn't even bring me up to an average workout if I was way too tired to begin with. Also you have to lay off for a few weeks at a time or else it will looose its effectiveness. Somedays are good, some are bad with or without epedrine, everyone knows that. One day you bench 315 for one the next day you'd be dead trying the same trick without a spotter. BTW _ ALWAYS leave the collors OFF if benching without a spotter that way you can dump if you have to.
	"I don't like small cars or real big women, but somehow I always find myself in 'em" - KR

11-10-2003, 04:51 AM	#38
andyo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: WVA Posts: 362	The only place I have only seen Yellow Jackets are at the Dairy Mart. Please tell me you did'nt buy them there! Secondly, did you read the label right? If you are not used to Ephedrine, you should gradually work up to max dose. It is people like you that gets shit banned!
	To achieve Success is certaily tough..but keeping it, much tougher!

11-10-2003, 06:20 AM	#39
seth042280 gimme1more Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: north carolina Posts: 180 Photos: 1	Andyo "Its people like you that gets shit banned" ummm no its people that die that get it banned . I just told my experience .did you even read the entire thread ? Last edited by seth042280 : 11-10-2003 at 06:31 AM.

11-11-2003, 02:31 PM	#40
seth042280 gimme1more Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: north carolina Posts: 180 Photos: 1	ok everyone . I am formally apologizing for the title of this thread. for the longest time I could not figure out what happened to me on bench night so I guess I blamed the new thing.(effedrin)...so I worked out last night and the same thing happened without the ef bomb. I thinbk that I have finally figured the problem. recently I have changed my diet to the 6 meals a day program and I added 2 more days into my workout. I really think that my body is just shocked from the change..this can be the only explanation I have for my bench reps going down from 235 to 185. I added seated row on weds and I think I am utilizing my triceps too much during the exercise. I hope this is the prob . these are the only things that I have changed . please reply

11-11-2003, 03:27 PM	#41
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	I'm pretty sure you need to just listen to your body and try to adjust your diet and workout routine so you are always increasing in performance...
	Are you kidding me????

11-11-2003, 03:36 PM	#42
seth042280 gimme1more Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: north carolina Posts: 180 Photos: 1	I was fine until I started more workouts. before all I did was bench on monday and curls on weds. and I progressed every single week whether it was reps or weight . I just dont want to only do thos 2 days . maybe I will add more targetes exercises on the same days as the other workouts . like skull crushers . ect . i will just do super sets. I am going to just do the normal workout and see if anything changed next monday .

11-11-2003, 04:59 PM	#43
clfhnger Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 11	lots of trash talk going on in this post. What happened to the Gym guys I know who are real cool, friendly, and never judge a new lifter, or someone with a question, or needing a spot. Don't confirm a bullshit stigma that gym rats are obnoxious assholes... As far as Ehpedrine goes it is very simple: Don't over do it. Seriously, Ephedrine gets a bad name by people whom take way too much. Take alot and run, or try to eat, you'll be naseuous and so on. Same as if you took 6 caffeine pills. I'm 190, I take 25 mg's right before working out. If I was over 225, maybe 50 mg's. Yopu'll have great results that way. Taking more is just not necessary. More is never better with stimulants, particularly ephedrine Andrew

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