Losing fat at low BF%

Twin Peak · 11-07-2003, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by BabsieGirl
I wasn't knocking on Avant or those products.

The reasons why I asked for the ingredients were so I can ask him question in regards to what it does to the skin and how cuts into your fat cells.

7-keto-DHEA prevents the conversion to cortisol. Cortisol causes VAT.

Dante B. · 11-07-2003, 03:23 PM

Cutting Gel's active ingredient is aminophylline.

It is primarily, a diuretic. A2 adrenoceptor antagonism (as with YHCL), addresses a primary factor in gynoid adipose distribution.

Randy · 11-07-2003, 03:26 PM

Can someone toss me a pencil so I can take note of this information...

Twin Peak · 11-07-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by BabsieGirl
I'd like to see a study done on that.

Preferrably done on a person that has HONESTLY dieted & trained for quite some time and still has problems losing the fat around the abdominal area. Till this person is at the point where lipo suction is needed as a final resort!

It's just like stretch marks. Prove the fact that a lotion can remove your stretchmarks and cosmetic surgery does not need to be done.

I'm sorry. I'm not trying to put TP & his products down. I'm just saying it's hard to believe.

I have been training, dieting and practising cardio and I have yet to discover a "gel or lotion" that will spot reduce around any trouble areas.

Just like cutting gel -- I believe that's false advertisement. The maker claims to spot reduce, etc.........Paid $110 for cutting gel and the only thing it did was REDUCE the APPEARANCE.

Someone give me a bottle of ab-solve and if it works, I'll forever where a shirt that says: I'M A BELIEVER OF SPOT REDUCING, PROVEN BY AVANT LABS!

Sorry you guys. This is just my opinion.

Or you can try a bottle, since it has a money back guarantee.

Dante B. · 11-07-2003, 03:32 PM

Or you can listen to my explanation, which is free.

Take note, however, that I am absolutely full of shit. I don't even trust myself.

No one should.

nikegurl · 11-07-2003, 03:36 PM

not that anyone asked or cares....but i quite like this dante guy.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jodi
This is your quote.

AND IT CLEARLY DOES NOT SAY dehydrating is losing bf..............

This is from my quote: because when you diet down for a competition, you lose more weight/fat especially when you dehydrate

when you diet down you lose fat and weight..............

Let me break out the crayons for you.........fat when you diet down........water (as being said above AS WEIGHT LOSS) loss when you dehydrate....

vanity · 11-07-2003, 03:43 PM

Dante , we know you're full of shit but we like you anyways.

**Jodi** · 11-07-2003, 03:45 PM

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you lose more weight/fat especially when you dehydrate

Exactly
You said right here. You lose more weight and fat especially when you dehydrate.

Umm HELLO!!!

vanity · 11-07-2003, 03:46 PM

Men are obsessed with muscle, women with fat.

oh joy.

Randy · 11-07-2003, 03:46 PM

Dante,

I hope my comment didn't prompt this outburst. Cause I wasn't dissagreeing with you. I was just simply stating that all of the terminology was complicated and for me to grasp it, I would have to write it down. You have to admit that some of the terminologies that goes a long with these products, you have to be a doctor to understand. That is all I was implying man.

Quote:

Originally posted by Dante B.
Or you can listen to my explanation, which is free.

Take note, however, that I am absolutely full of shit. I don't even trust myself.

No one should.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Prince
Of course a plastic surgeon would say something so stupid, they want your money, not to mention they know NOTHING about diet, nutrition and fitness.

If they told you that diet and exercise would remove the body fat and save you $5,000 by not getting lipo, they would go out of business.

I see where you're coming from Prince. If this wasn't a family friend and one that didn't know my history, I would think the same thing. This guy also works out religiously. I don't think he knows the ins and outs of dieting and nutrition but he has some clue.

This guy works strickly with athletes and the first thing he does is set them on specific diets and training programs. If that doesn't work then he'll re-evaluate. His first recommendation is to diet, etc...before he will consider lipo suction.

**Prince** · 11-07-2003, 03:47 PM

can we keep this thread civil kids?

it's one post away from being closed if anyone cares.

vanity · 11-07-2003, 03:49 PM

liposuction is pathetic.

senimoni · 11-07-2003, 03:50 PM

LOL he lost me at andro....whatever.

Me no undastand da englais.

I'm beyond needing to write it down. :-)

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
Dante,

I hope my comment didn't prompt this outburst. Cause I wasn't dissagreeing with you. I was just simply stating that all of the terminology was complicated and for me to grasp it, I would have to write it down. You have to admit that some of the terminologies that goes a long with these products, you have to be a doctor to understand. That is all I was implying man.

Randy · 11-07-2003, 03:52 PM

Don't feel bad Senimoni....
Half this stuff is over my head too.
I am just here to have a little fun.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dante B.
From our site:

Instead of reducing your calories, and then internally waiting for your body to release fat from those “trouble spots” which are reluctant to let go of adipose tissue, Lipoderm-Y releases the fat from the site(s) of application, and when combined with a caloric deficit, results in the effective realization of controllable “spot-reduction.”

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The end. If anyone has any questions, shoot away.

Thanks Dante

Randy · 11-07-2003, 03:56 PM

I agree Vanity.

Lipo is a pathetic substitute for exercise and proper nutrition.
Some probably just go in like an oil change on your car. They eat like pigs and go in regularly for their once a month lipo

What a life ...

No seriously speaking, the only thing I can see it would be useful is only for the seriously obese people who are at a critical life threating stage due to their weight. For those cases, lipo can be a blessing.

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
liposuction is pathetic.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Or you can try a bottle, since it has a money back guarantee.

I want to try a bottle. Would it make sense to get to the point where I just cannot lose the fat in that section first?

TP -- Thanks for being level headed. I do appreciate your help.

Randy · 11-07-2003, 04:04 PM

Babsie,

I have a special tummy massage that will get that unwanted fat off... And my sessions are absolutely free. When can we start

I know, I'm bad.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dante B.
Or you can listen to my explanation, which is free.

Take note, however, that I am absolutely full of shit. I don't even trust myself.

No one should.

yeah yeah..... You no, you're a hottie with the women here

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
Exactly
You said right here. You lose more weight and fat especially when you dehydrate.

Umm HELLO!!!

Open your eyes a little more...key word.........especially You don't need to alter my quotes.

BabsieGirl · 11-07-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy
Babsie,

I have a special tummy massage that will get that unwanted fat off... And my sessions are absolutely free. When can we start

I know, I'm bad.

lol....what might that be?

**Jodi** · 11-07-2003, 04:16 PM

I did not alter your quote. that is directly from you.

I'm sorry but what are you missing here.

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because when you diet down for a competition, you lose more weight/fat especially when you dehydrate

This is stating that you lose more fat ESPECIALLY when you dehydrate which is simply false.

Randy · 11-07-2003, 04:16 PM

If I told you Babs it wouldn't be special now would it.

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
lol....what might that be?

11-07-2003, 03:23 PM	#62
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Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	Babsie, I have a special tummy massage that will get that unwanted fat off... And my sessions are absolutely free. When can we start I know, I'm bad.
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