genetics help me

once was fat · 11-09-2003, 07:36 PM

My grand parents saw me for the first time in 3 months and they could not belive how much weight I have lost. A comment was made that in my family gene's were not that great when it come to bodybuilding and getting defined. ERRRRHHHHHHHHH. If I continue a good diet and continue to work out hard is it possible that I will not see any definition in my muscle's because of gene's. Another words if i work out hard will I see definition regardless of gene's?

once was fat · 11-09-2003, 08:15 PM

some one please help me so I can sleep tonight. Ha Ha

gr81 · 11-09-2003, 08:26 PM

Genetics play a huge role in determining how far you will be able to go in the BB game. For instance no matter how hard and how many years you train and hoe many drugs you take, you may never look like a antional level competitor, where as someone else may be drug free and have taht physique just come to them. However you still have the biomechenical workings of a human body and if you train and diet correctly according to your needs, you will see results. There is no need to worry about it, your hard work will pay off as long as you keep a reasonable set of goals to reach for bro. In other words, you can get very very lean and add lots of muscle to your frame relatively speaking if you work for it, you just may not be a pro BB.
However I must warn you that by telling yourself that is it OK if you don't get here or there b/c you have bad genetics, you are inturn setting yourself up for failure. Genetics or not you can accomplish great things and by telling yourself that you have bad genetics to work with, it becomes a self fullfilling prophecy. Your mind is the most important tool in BB and it sets the limit, not your physical reach. Every time you think to yourself that you have bad genetics, think about the people out there that have truley bad genetics and maybe you just don't have Pro BB genetics. Bottome line, do not limit your growth mentally bymaking excuses like genetics. Always stay postive and believe that you can reach your goals, never let thoughts like that enter your mind other wise you have set yourself up for failure by accepting it in advance. Hope that helps bro

once was fat · 11-09-2003, 08:41 PM

Good advice Thanks man. The only reason why I posted that question was becuase of a comment that was mentioned. I never even thought about genetics untill tonight. Trust me I am in this for the long run and have great motivation to have a nice not big just defined body. Yeh Im addicted to working out now. I actually get upset when its my day off from the gym. Today was my day off I went anyways to do some cardio. I want it bad.

**Mudge** · 11-09-2003, 09:15 PM

Plenty of people have gone from fat to ripped, study up on diet because there is a lot to know. Maybe try searching for some of John Romano's cookbooks.

once was fat · 11-09-2003, 11:12 PM

Vanity your giving me the raw end of the deal here. I was not whining about genetics I was simply asking a question about genetics. If you would have payed closer attention to one of my posts I stated that I had never thought of genetics. It was a comment that was maid. Plus how could I cry about genetics when I have only been working out for a little over two months. I was simply asking a question about genetics and you gave me a sarcastic answer.

once was fat · 11-09-2003, 11:18 PM

IMO this was a general question. It had nothing to do with whining. I only asked from a first person view that if you do not have the genes can you still build a defined not huge body.

**Mudge** · 11-09-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
So, I don't think you should go whining about your supposedly bad genetics. There are alot of people worse of than you. Count your blessings.

When I'm feeling shitty I try to remind myself of this, damn good advice. You always have something to be thankfull for, many others are significantly worse off.

MeLo · 11-10-2003, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
well, I'm a sarcastic guy.

If I offended you.... Good!

LoL you tryin` to be eminem-ic?

**Prince** · 11-10-2003, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
the only thing I have in common with Eminem is that we both hate his mother.

I actually like his music!

gr81 · 11-10-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince

I actually like his music!

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 07:29 AM

most lyrical rapper in the world

**Mudge** · 11-11-2003, 12:35 PM

Do you know what time it is foo?

Ya damn right I know what time it is.

Early on Eminem was being compared to Shakespear so I gave a listen, a big

crossed over my mind as I was not impressed.

**Prince** · 11-11-2003, 01:03 PM

I do not like HIM, I just like working out to his music.

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 08:37 PM

you dont have to like his character but his music and lyrics are almost genius

HoldDaMayo · 11-11-2003, 08:53 PM

Andre 3000 from Outkast is a better MC and lyricist than Eminem... imho... especially some of his older stuff... guy has crazy skillz... I think Outkast maybe one of the greatest hip hop acts ever... I love the raw essence and realness of 2Pac, as far as I am from that reality... white, suburban upbringing, lived in Europe for 5 years growing up, not military, father was a missionary/pastor my whole life... i still remember my dad finding my "The Chronic" CD hidden in my room and the big green marijuana leaf on the CD... he broke it in 2 pieces immediately...

Flex · 11-11-2003, 09:01 PM

if you guys wanna talk about lyrics and rhyming abilities, Method Man is #1. guy thinks of the sickest shit ever, combined w/Rza's beats, best rap out (all his older shit of course, new Wu shit kinda sucks)

HoldDaMayo · 11-11-2003, 09:07 PM

I don't think Method Man is as good as either Eminem or Andre 3000... but he has done some good work, all older of course...

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 09:18 PM

yer andre from outkast is siccass, even eminem gives him credit in i tink.. 'when the music stops'

gr81 · 11-11-2003, 10:43 PM

if you guys just want to talk about who is the best strickly from a lyricist standpoint then none of the right names were mentioned. You have to talk about Big L, Eminem, Cannabis, Rass Cass, Talib k, Bigge Smalls, Yukmouth, Big daddy kane, and some lesser known fellas like that. Method Man and outcast may be dope rappers but they are far from the best LYRICISTS ever.

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 10:48 PM

yer and in terms of whos better out of all of them i dunno what you judge lyrics on but eminem cains all of those cunts, i dont even know why ppl say biggie was a mad lyracist, he just flows in a certain way. I think necro is quote good lyrically but most wudnt agree

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 11:26 PM

snoop flows really well, 'doggystyle' is one of my favourite albums of all time

perfecto · 11-11-2003, 11:31 PM

haha nice 1

Uthinkso · 11-12-2003, 04:11 AM

I love how these posts always end up off-topic

M-E-T-H-O-D MAN.....thats all I have to say. Old scholers will know.

Flex · 11-14-2003, 09:10 PM

listen to any Meth song on Tical or 36 chambers............meth is #1 bar none. he thinks of the sickest, darkest, most thugged out shit.

Flex · 11-14-2003, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Uthinkso
I love how these posts always end up off-topic

M-E-T-H-O-D MAN.....thats all I have to say. Old scholers will know.

thank you, enough said

"For real
I keeps it Ill
Like a piece of blue steel,
Pointed at your temple with the intent to kill
And then your existence.....M E T
Ain't no use for resistence.......H O D"

SJ69 · 11-14-2003, 10:14 PM

I listen to Kid Rock when I work out, Cocky is the best, I'm always cocky when I hit the bench, It's like "I'm going hit this mother for at least 3 reps" (even if I only got 1 last weeks)
Anyway Kid Rock really puts me in the mood to hit it hard.

11-09-2003, 07:36 PM	#1
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	genetics help me My grand parents saw me for the first time in 3 months and they could not belive how much weight I have lost. A comment was made that in my family gene's were not that great when it come to bodybuilding and getting defined. ERRRRHHHHHHHHH. If I continue a good diet and continue to work out hard is it possible that I will not see any definition in my muscle's because of gene's. Another words if i work out hard will I see definition regardless of gene's?
	He who speaks least, think's most.

11-09-2003, 08:15 PM	#2
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	some one please help me so I can sleep tonight. Ha Ha
	He who speaks least, think's most.

11-09-2003, 08:26 PM	#3
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	Genetics play a huge role in determining how far you will be able to go in the BB game. For instance no matter how hard and how many years you train and hoe many drugs you take, you may never look like a antional level competitor, where as someone else may be drug free and have taht physique just come to them. However you still have the biomechenical workings of a human body and if you train and diet correctly according to your needs, you will see results. There is no need to worry about it, your hard work will pay off as long as you keep a reasonable set of goals to reach for bro. In other words, you can get very very lean and add lots of muscle to your frame relatively speaking if you work for it, you just may not be a pro BB. However I must warn you that by telling yourself that is it OK if you don't get here or there b/c you have bad genetics, you are inturn setting yourself up for failure. Genetics or not you can accomplish great things and by telling yourself that you have bad genetics to work with, it becomes a self fullfilling prophecy. Your mind is the most important tool in BB and it sets the limit, not your physical reach. Every time you think to yourself that you have bad genetics, think about the people out there that have truley bad genetics and maybe you just don't have Pro BB genetics. Bottome line, do not limit your growth mentally bymaking excuses like genetics. Always stay postive and believe that you can reach your goals, never let thoughts like that enter your mind other wise you have set yourself up for failure by accepting it in advance. Hope that helps bro
	Testosterone Site/Elite Fitness-Dave Tate/West Side Barbell/Berardi Nutrition & Sports Performance/Steroid Laws- Rick Collins/John Defendis Intensity or Insanity articles/Save the Supersonics

11-09-2003, 08:41 PM	#4
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Good advice Thanks man. The only reason why I posted that question was becuase of a comment that was mentioned. I never even thought about genetics untill tonight. Trust me I am in this for the long run and have great motivation to have a nice not big just defined body. Yeh Im addicted to working out now. I actually get upset when its my day off from the gym. Today was my day off I went anyways to do some cardio. I want it bad.
	He who speaks least, think's most.

11-09-2003, 11:12 PM	#6
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	Vanity your giving me the raw end of the deal here. I was not whining about genetics I was simply asking a question about genetics. If you would have payed closer attention to one of my posts I stated that I had never thought of genetics. It was a comment that was maid. Plus how could I cry about genetics when I have only been working out for a little over two months. I was simply asking a question about genetics and you gave me a sarcastic answer.
	He who speaks least, think's most.

11-09-2003, 09:15 PM	#5
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Plenty of people have gone from fat to ripped, study up on diet because there is a lot to know. Maybe try searching for some of John Romano's cookbooks.

11-09-2003, 11:18 PM	#7
once was fat Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: tucson az Posts: 692 Photos: 2	IMO this was a general question. It had nothing to do with whining. I only asked from a first person view that if you do not have the genes can you still build a defined not huge body.
	He who speaks least, think's most.

11-11-2003, 07:29 AM	#12
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	most lyrical rapper in the world
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-11-2003, 12:35 PM	#13
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	Do you know what time it is foo? Ya damn right I know what time it is. Early on Eminem was being compared to Shakespear so I gave a listen, a big crossed over my mind as I was not impressed.

11-11-2003, 01:03 PM	#14
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,732 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	I do not like HIM, I just like working out to his music.
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11-11-2003, 08:37 PM	#15
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	you dont have to like his character but his music and lyrics are almost genius
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-11-2003, 08:53 PM	#16
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	Andre 3000 from Outkast is a better MC and lyricist than Eminem... imho... especially some of his older stuff... guy has crazy skillz... I think Outkast maybe one of the greatest hip hop acts ever... I love the raw essence and realness of 2Pac, as far as I am from that reality... white, suburban upbringing, lived in Europe for 5 years growing up, not military, father was a missionary/pastor my whole life... i still remember my dad finding my "The Chronic" CD hidden in my room and the big green marijuana leaf on the CD... he broke it in 2 pieces immediately...
	Are you kidding me????

11-11-2003, 09:01 PM	#17
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	if you guys wanna talk about lyrics and rhyming abilities, Method Man is #1. guy thinks of the sickest shit ever, combined w/Rza's beats, best rap out (all his older shit of course, new Wu shit kinda sucks)
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

11-11-2003, 09:07 PM	#18
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	I don't think Method Man is as good as either Eminem or Andre 3000... but he has done some good work, all older of course...
	Are you kidding me????

11-11-2003, 09:18 PM	#19
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	yer andre from outkast is siccass, even eminem gives him credit in i tink.. 'when the music stops'
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-11-2003, 10:43 PM	#20
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	if you guys just want to talk about who is the best strickly from a lyricist standpoint then none of the right names were mentioned. You have to talk about Big L, Eminem, Cannabis, Rass Cass, Talib k, Bigge Smalls, Yukmouth, Big daddy kane, and some lesser known fellas like that. Method Man and outcast may be dope rappers but they are far from the best LYRICISTS ever.
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11-11-2003, 10:48 PM	#21
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	yer and in terms of whos better out of all of them i dunno what you judge lyrics on but eminem cains all of those cunts, i dont even know why ppl say biggie was a mad lyracist, he just flows in a certain way. I think necro is quote good lyrically but most wudnt agree
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-11-2003, 11:26 PM	#22
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	snoop flows really well, 'doggystyle' is one of my favourite albums of all time
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-11-2003, 11:31 PM	#23
perfecto dirty but nice Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: land down under your mum Posts: 390 Photos: 5	haha nice 1
	"a scientist who works out, your like Indiana Jones"..."I AM LIKE INDIANA JONES" "dont hate me cause im beautiful baby, hate me cause your mother thinks so"

11-12-2003, 04:11 AM	#24
Uthinkso Go on....DO IT!!! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,298 Photos: 3	I love how these posts always end up off-topic M-E-T-H-O-D MAN.....thats all I have to say. Old scholers will know.
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11-14-2003, 09:10 PM	#25
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	listen to any Meth song on Tical or 36 chambers............meth is #1 bar none. he thinks of the sickest, darkest, most thugged out shit.
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

11-14-2003, 10:14 PM	#27
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	I listen to Kid Rock when I work out, Cocky is the best, I'm always cocky when I hit the bench, It's like "I'm going hit this mother for at least 3 reps" (even if I only got 1 last weeks) Anyway Kid Rock really puts me in the mood to hit it hard.
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