overtrained??

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 08:36 PM

the last couple of days have been really bad for me every time i try to go to sleep i have an extremely hard time trying to calm down and relax, my heart seems like its gonna pound right outta my chest it beats so hard. My work outs have been lackin intensity all my weights went down, acouple of weeks ago i was max bench press was 305 and yesterday i was having trouble putting up 185 im not sick or any thing im just walkin around feelin dizzy all the time i really dun know wuts up ive decided to take the rest of the week off from the gym wut do u pplz think......

please help me

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 08:40 PM

What's your diet been like?

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 08:46 PM

lol, not good i kinda live off of fast food cuz of my work schedule
plus i was in the progress of bulkin up so i didnt think it would matter (note thats b4 i found these forums) but i do eat alot of chicken breast

vanity · 11-11-2003, 08:46 PM

what are your workouts like?

sounds like overtraining.

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay-B
lol, not good i kinda live off of fast food cuz of my work schedule
plus i was in the progress of bulkin up so i didnt think it would matter (note thats b4 i found these forums) but i do eat alot of chicken breast

It matters alot. Eating like crap will not only affect your workouts but you'll gain more fat than you want.

vanity · 11-11-2003, 08:51 PM

jay b: listen to Jodi she has buns of steel.

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 08:52 PM

ok monday for example chest/sholders
*weighted dips
*military presses
*flat bench
*shrugs
*decline bench
*incline shrugs
*incline bench press
*front raises
*pec deck or some other shaper
*side lateral rasies
*incline side lateral rasies
i do 3 set of each exersice in a pryamid fashion in reps of 8-6-4

vanity · 11-11-2003, 08:59 PM

ok but what about the rest of the week?

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vanity
jay b: listen to Jodi she has buns of steel.

And what makes you think that?

vanity · 11-11-2003, 09:08 PM

umm...

man's intuition.

.....ya that's it.

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 09:13 PM

tues-back
*V grip pull ups (weighted)
*wide grip pull downs
*bent over rows
*seated rows
*wide grip pullups
*front pulldowns
wends-legs
*leg extentions
*squats
*leg curls
*leg presses
*deadlifts
*calve raises (weighted)
thrus-arms
*standing curls w/ e-z curl bar
*tri-extentions
*incline alternating curls
*skull crushers
*hammer curls
*over head extentions
*reversed grip curls
*close grip bench
*preacher curls
*seated dips ( with weights on lap)
*concentration curls

vanity · 11-11-2003, 09:20 PM

if you're doing 3 sets of each of those I think it's too much volume.

HoldDaMayo · 11-11-2003, 09:21 PM

also, his diet being so low quality will contribute to that factor...

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 09:26 PM

i guess cuz monday i couldnt have taken in more then 1200 cals and thats less then half of my daily intake so i can see why i was messed up.

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 09:38 PM

Yup, diet will affect alot.

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 09:41 PM

i really dont know wut to eat, mon-wed i dont wake up till 2pm cuz i have to be at work at 4pm so im having breakfast at 2pm or 3pm most days

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 09:44 PM

Have you read the sticky in the Diet & Nutrition forum?

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 09:50 PM

no but ill check it out.

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 09:51 PM

Definately! If you want help just let me know. I start a clean bulk myself in a few weeks

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 09:59 PM

i may take u up on that, btw which sticky are u talking about in the Diet & Nutrition forum, they all seem to consist of buying books and who to buy em from

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 10:03 PM

Here you Go (Guide to Cutting, Bulking & Maintenance)
There is alot about cutting but there is a ton of info on general nutrition itself. Also, there are a few bulking plans. TP has a new article coming out at Avant this week on Bulking with Carb Cycling. That is going to be the one I plan on following.

Jay-B · 11-11-2003, 10:14 PM

thx alot jodi, ive never paid much attention to diet cuz ive been able to stay lean and cut no matter wut i do, im now starting to see its affecting me in other ways.

ima get to reading

**Jodi** · 11-11-2003, 10:26 PM

Anytime.........Keep me updated on how it goes

Jay-B · 11-12-2003, 12:22 PM

will do.

11-11-2003, 08:36 PM	#1
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	overtrained?? the last couple of days have been really bad for me every time i try to go to sleep i have an extremely hard time trying to calm down and relax, my heart seems like its gonna pound right outta my chest it beats so hard. My work outs have been lackin intensity all my weights went down, acouple of weeks ago i was max bench press was 305 and yesterday i was having trouble putting up 185 im not sick or any thing im just walkin around feelin dizzy all the time i really dun know wuts up ive decided to take the rest of the week off from the gym wut do u pplz think...... please help me

11-11-2003, 08:40 PM	#2
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	What's your diet been like?
	Essence EFA

11-11-2003, 09:21 PM	#13
HoldDaMayo Just call me Mayo Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,917 Photos: 4	also, his diet being so low quality will contribute to that factor...
	Are you kidding me????

11-11-2003, 09:38 PM	#15
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Yup, diet will affect alot.
	Essence EFA

11-11-2003, 09:44 PM	#17
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Have you read the sticky in the Diet & Nutrition forum?
	Essence EFA

11-11-2003, 08:46 PM	#3
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	lol, not good i kinda live off of fast food cuz of my work schedule plus i was in the progress of bulkin up so i didnt think it would matter (note thats b4 i found these forums) but i do eat alot of chicken breast

11-11-2003, 08:46 PM	#4
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	what are your workouts like? sounds like overtraining.

11-11-2003, 08:51 PM	#6
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	jay b: listen to Jodi she has buns of steel.

11-11-2003, 08:52 PM	#7
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	ok monday for example chest/sholders weighted dips military presses flat bench shrugs decline bench incline shrugs incline bench press front raises pec deck or some other shaper side lateral rasies *incline side lateral rasies i do 3 set of each exersice in a pryamid fashion in reps of 8-6-4

11-11-2003, 08:59 PM	#8
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	ok but what about the rest of the week?

11-11-2003, 09:08 PM	#10
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	umm... man's intuition. .....ya that's it.

11-11-2003, 09:13 PM	#11
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	tues-back V grip pull ups (weighted) wide grip pull downs bent over rows seated rows wide grip pullups front pulldowns wends-legs leg extentions squats leg curls leg presses deadlifts calve raises (weighted) thrus-arms standing curls w/ e-z curl bar tri-extentions incline alternating curls skull crushers hammer curls over head extentions reversed grip curls close grip bench preacher curls seated dips ( with weights on lap) *concentration curls

11-11-2003, 09:20 PM	#12
vanity Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,218 Photos: 1	if you're doing 3 sets of each of those I think it's too much volume.

11-11-2003, 09:26 PM	#14
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	i guess cuz monday i couldnt have taken in more then 1200 cals and thats less then half of my daily intake so i can see why i was messed up.

11-11-2003, 09:41 PM	#16
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	i really dont know wut to eat, mon-wed i dont wake up till 2pm cuz i have to be at work at 4pm so im having breakfast at 2pm or 3pm most days

11-11-2003, 09:50 PM	#18
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	no but ill check it out.

11-11-2003, 09:51 PM	#19
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Definately! If you want help just let me know. I start a clean bulk myself in a few weeks
	Essence EFA

11-11-2003, 09:59 PM	#20
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	i may take u up on that, btw which sticky are u talking about in the Diet & Nutrition forum, they all seem to consist of buying books and who to buy em from

11-11-2003, 10:03 PM	#21
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Here you Go (Guide to Cutting, Bulking & Maintenance) There is alot about cutting but there is a ton of info on general nutrition itself. Also, there are a few bulking plans. TP has a new article coming out at Avant this week on Bulking with Carb Cycling. That is going to be the one I plan on following.
	Essence EFA

11-11-2003, 10:14 PM	#22
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	thx alot jodi, ive never paid much attention to diet cuz ive been able to stay lean and cut no matter wut i do, im now starting to see its affecting me in other ways. ima get to reading

11-11-2003, 10:26 PM	#23
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Anytime.........Keep me updated on how it goes
	Essence EFA

11-12-2003, 12:22 PM	#24
Jay-B UNDER RECONSTRUCTION Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 253 Photos: 4	will do.

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