Are situps enough for good abs?

ShayneBishop · 11-26-2003, 01:37 AM

I did a search but I couldnt quite find what I was looking for and I was curious to know if situps were enough for good abs?OR what is a good ab workout? Someone once told me if it makes u feel like your getting stabbed in the stomach hold it until u cant take it anymore then do it 20 more times. I know tht when i was in shape at the gym i would lay with my back down and knees up then hold myself 6in up. My trainer said to do that, it made a little burn but i didnt see much of a change....Thanx

prophet · 11-26-2003, 02:28 AM

crunches>situps.. IMO.. best way to reveal those abs is to do some cardio and have a good diet

**dg806** · 11-26-2003, 06:09 AM

Yep diet is the key! You can do a million sit ups and it won't matter if you don't watch your diet!

J'Bo · 11-26-2003, 06:27 AM

i agree with DG. diet is key!
best exercises to develop those abs once you can see them are: weighted crunches or declines IMO.
best cardio to help show those abs is skipping rope

Deeznuts · 11-26-2003, 08:31 AM

I've got the pretty much ideal abs and didnt get them from doing 1,000 situps a night. Your abs are like any other muscle in your body. People with 'beer bellies' have abs as well - you just can't see them :P Burning fat is the key - so yes, diet and cardio are the keys to washboard abs. Don't completely throw away situps, and other ab excercises. these are necessary as well. Try doing situps that have a full range of motion so you can work all of your abs. I never do crunches because they focus on just your upper abs. Doing excercises weighted seems to help as well if you already have strong abs.

BabsieGirl · 11-26-2003, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
i agree with DG. diet is key!
best exercises to develop those abs once you can see them are: weighted crunches or declines IMO.
best cardio to help show those abs is skipping rope

J'Bo · 11-26-2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deeznuts
I've got the pretty much ideal abs and didnt get them from doing 1,000 situps a night. Your abs are like any other muscle in your body. People with 'beer bellies' have abs as well - you just can't see them :P Burning fat is the key - so yes, diet and cardio are the keys to washboard abs. Don't completely throw away situps, and other ab excercises. these are necessary as well. Try doing situps that have a full range of motion so you can work all of your abs. I never do crunches because they focus on just your upper abs. Doing excercises weighted seems to help as well if you already have strong abs.

So where are the pics?

Also we should really mention that genetics play a HUGE roll in having great abs.

Triple Threat · 11-26-2003, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
genetics play a HUGE roll in having great abs.

Nice play on words!

**Prince** · 11-26-2003, 09:02 AM

here are 3 articles on abs from www.ironmagazine.com

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article42.html

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article12.html

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article59.html

Deeznuts · 11-26-2003, 09:07 AM

J'Bo - very true. I was like a stick before I started working out. Aside from abs this turned out to be a great disadvantage.

flexster · 11-26-2003, 12:05 PM

From what I have read from several articles here are the best two exercises for the abs:

1. Bicycle Maneuver. Lie flat and press your lower back to the floor. With hands beside head, bring your knees to 45-degree angle & begin a pedal motion by touching opposite elbow to opposite knee, alternating each side.

2. Captain's Chair. Stand on chair and grip handholds to stabilize your upper body. Press your back against the pad and slowly lift knees towards your chest. Don't arch the back! Click here for picture.

Personally, I like the captain's chair, it really works the lower abs where most of us guys collect fat.

BabsieGirl · 11-26-2003, 12:20 PM

Rankings of All Exercises for Rectus Abdominis

Bicycle Maneuver
Captain's Chair
Exercise Ball
Vertical Leg Crunch
Torso Track
Long-Arm Crunch
Reverse Crunch
Crunch with Heel Push
Ab Roller
Plank
Traditional Crunch
Exercise Tubing Pull
Ab Rocker

Rankings of All Exercises for Obliques

Captain's Chair
Bicycle Maneuver
Reverse Crunch
Plank
Vertical Leg Crunch
Exercise Ball
Torso Track
Crunch with Heel Push
Long-Arm Crunch
Ab Roller
Traditional Crunch
Exercise Tubing Pull
Ab Rocker

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J'Bo · 11-26-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CaptainDeadlift
Nice play on words!

Thanks

JLB001 · 11-26-2003, 01:51 PM

I usually just do crunches on the floor. Pretty basic stuff, but then good abs were something I was blessed with, just wish I was blessed with the good legs too! I got the crap for gentics in the leg dept.

Rocco32 · 11-26-2003, 02:11 PM

I'd like to start doing just decline full range sit-ups.

J'Bo · 11-26-2003, 02:15 PM

JLB...you cant win them all...i have the same jeans....i mean genes

Rock...i only do declines and they are GREAT...they rip the heck outta those babies...try doing declines with a 25lb plate

BabsieGirl · 11-26-2003, 02:17 PM

and if that is too easy take a 10lb plate and hold it behind your head.

The 25's are easy for me. I found the 10's to be a little tougher behind the head.

Rocco32 · 11-26-2003, 02:19 PM

I think I'll have enough of a challenge just doing myself right now. (did I really just say "do myself"?)

BabsieGirl · 11-26-2003, 02:20 PM

plouffe · 11-26-2003, 02:40 PM

Through some swiss ball exercises in your abdominal routine.... works really well.

J'Bo · 11-26-2003, 02:42 PM

although you need alot of resistance to build those plates up

Premo55 · 12-09-2003, 05:26 PM

Abs actually have very, very little to do with training...I took a hiatus from abdominal training for about two months and noticed little change in definition in my midsection...core strength is however very underrated, and improving core strength will lead to much larger lifts, particularly in the deadlift and squat! The best ab exercises, I feel, are the dragon flag and weighted rope crunches. For obliques, twisting weighted rope crunches are probably the best movement you can do. Personally I do 4 sets of 6 for each, applying appropriate resistance. Abs are like any other muscle, they require resistance in order to stimulate growth....

Peace.

**P-funk** · 12-09-2003, 06:19 PM

seeing your abs is one thing. This is going to come form diet. COnditioning your abs however is another and I think it is something that most people neglect. Abdominal/lower back trianing is very important and is going to make a big difference in all of your other lifts, particularly squats, deadlifts and standing overhead barbell presses. Make sure you train your abs so that they can handle large amounts of weight so that you can go heavier on all of your lifts. Don't simply live by the saying "great abs are made in the kitchen, not in the weight room."

KiDNotorious · 01-07-2004, 11:46 PM

can anyone give me a link to these exercises with pics? i cant seem to find them

thanks in advance

KiDNotorious · 02-26-2004, 10:04 PM

dont mind that message.....>_> <_<

Deeznuts · 02-27-2004, 05:47 AM

If that was sarcasm you can find the pics and descriptions at www.bodybuilding.com

Sorry for the long delay - I never saw your post.

QuestionGuy · 02-27-2004, 04:40 PM

diet diet diet diet, white chicken broccoli, god damn im so sick of it, by the way, im at 15 % right now and my abs are startiong to form,

QuestionGuy · 02-27-2004, 04:41 PM

if anyone cares that is

BabsieGirl · 02-27-2004, 04:48 PM

http://www.ironmagazine.com/burnfat

Good learning! Read it!!!!!!

11-26-2003, 01:37 AM	#1
ShayneBishop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So Cali Posts: 5	Are situps enough for good abs? I did a search but I couldnt quite find what I was looking for and I was curious to know if situps were enough for good abs?OR what is a good ab workout? Someone once told me if it makes u feel like your getting stabbed in the stomach hold it until u cant take it anymore then do it 20 more times. I know tht when i was in shape at the gym i would lay with my back down and knees up then hold myself 6in up. My trainer said to do that, it made a little burn but i didnt see much of a change....Thanx
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11-26-2003, 06:09 AM	#3
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,261	Yep diet is the key! You can do a million sit ups and it won't matter if you don't watch your diet!
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11-26-2003, 06:27 AM	#4
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	i agree with DG. diet is key! best exercises to develop those abs once you can see them are: weighted crunches or declines IMO. best cardio to help show those abs is skipping rope
	....and thats my $.02

11-26-2003, 09:02 AM	#9
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11-26-2003, 12:05 PM	#11
flexster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 287	From what I have read from several articles here are the best two exercises for the abs: 1. Bicycle Maneuver. Lie flat and press your lower back to the floor. With hands beside head, bring your knees to 45-degree angle & begin a pedal motion by touching opposite elbow to opposite knee, alternating each side. 2. Captain's Chair. Stand on chair and grip handholds to stabilize your upper body. Press your back against the pad and slowly lift knees towards your chest. Don't arch the back! Click here for picture. Personally, I like the captain's chair, it really works the lower abs where most of us guys collect fat.
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11-26-2003, 02:28 AM	#2
prophet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Ramon Posts: 237	crunches>situps.. IMO.. best way to reveal those abs is to do some cardio and have a good diet

11-26-2003, 08:31 AM	#5
Deeznuts Still Growing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 771 Photos: 2	I've got the pretty much ideal abs and didnt get them from doing 1,000 situps a night. Your abs are like any other muscle in your body. People with 'beer bellies' have abs as well - you just can't see them :P Burning fat is the key - so yes, diet and cardio are the keys to washboard abs. Don't completely throw away situps, and other ab excercises. these are necessary as well. Try doing situps that have a full range of motion so you can work all of your abs. I never do crunches because they focus on just your upper abs. Doing excercises weighted seems to help as well if you already have strong abs.

11-26-2003, 09:07 AM	#10
Deeznuts Still Growing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 771 Photos: 2	J'Bo - very true. I was like a stick before I started working out. Aside from abs this turned out to be a great disadvantage.

11-26-2003, 12:20 PM	#12
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Rankings of All Exercises for Rectus Abdominis Bicycle Maneuver Captain's Chair Exercise Ball Vertical Leg Crunch Torso Track Long-Arm Crunch Reverse Crunch Crunch with Heel Push Ab Roller Plank Traditional Crunch Exercise Tubing Pull Ab Rocker Rankings of All Exercises for Obliques Captain's Chair Bicycle Maneuver Reverse Crunch Plank Vertical Leg Crunch Exercise Ball Torso Track Crunch with Heel Push Long-Arm Crunch Ab Roller Traditional Crunch Exercise Tubing Pull Ab Rocker GO HERE: exercise.about.com/library/blabstudyranking.htm
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11-26-2003, 01:51 PM	#14
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	I usually just do crunches on the floor. Pretty basic stuff, but then good abs were something I was blessed with, just wish I was blessed with the good legs too! I got the crap for gentics in the leg dept.
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11-26-2003, 02:11 PM	#15
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	I'd like to start doing just decline full range sit-ups.
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11-26-2003, 02:15 PM	#16
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	JLB...you cant win them all...i have the same jeans....i mean genes Rock...i only do declines and they are GREAT...they rip the heck outta those babies...try doing declines with a 25lb plate
	....and thats my $.02

11-26-2003, 02:17 PM	#17
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	and if that is too easy take a 10lb plate and hold it behind your head. The 25's are easy for me. I found the 10's to be a little tougher behind the head.
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11-26-2003, 02:19 PM	#18
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11-26-2003, 02:20 PM	#19
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11-26-2003, 02:40 PM	#20
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11-26-2003, 02:42 PM	#21
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	although you need alot of resistance to build those plates up
	....and thats my $.02

12-09-2003, 05:26 PM	#22
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Abs actually have very, very little to do with training...I took a hiatus from abdominal training for about two months and noticed little change in definition in my midsection...core strength is however very underrated, and improving core strength will lead to much larger lifts, particularly in the deadlift and squat! The best ab exercises, I feel, are the dragon flag and weighted rope crunches. For obliques, twisting weighted rope crunches are probably the best movement you can do. Personally I do 4 sets of 6 for each, applying appropriate resistance. Abs are like any other muscle, they require resistance in order to stimulate growth.... Peace.
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12-09-2003, 06:19 PM	#23
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,431	seeing your abs is one thing. This is going to come form diet. COnditioning your abs however is another and I think it is something that most people neglect. Abdominal/lower back trianing is very important and is going to make a big difference in all of your other lifts, particularly squats, deadlifts and standing overhead barbell presses. Make sure you train your abs so that they can handle large amounts of weight so that you can go heavier on all of your lifts. Don't simply live by the saying "great abs are made in the kitchen, not in the weight room."
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01-07-2004, 11:46 PM	#24
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02-26-2004, 10:04 PM	#25
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02-27-2004, 05:47 AM	#26
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02-27-2004, 04:40 PM	#27
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,183	diet diet diet diet, white chicken broccoli, god damn im so sick of it, by the way, im at 15 % right now and my abs are startiong to form,

02-27-2004, 04:41 PM	#28
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02-27-2004, 04:48 PM	#29
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