Larva

this routine keeps me there for an hour.

i do :

Sitting arnold presses: 5x6
laterial raises : 5x6
barbell upright roll : 5x6
laying down lateral raises: 5x6
side raises: 5x6
(i keep my arms straight and lift them at my sides.)

do you guys think this is to much.
thanks for your time.

PIMPZNHUSTLAZ

An hour just on shoulders seems extreme. And 25 sets is probably overdoing it. I would stick with 3-4 exercises at 4 sets a piece, maximum. It looks like you are doing too many lateral/side raise exercises. Stick with the presses, upright rows, and lateral raises. And then just subsititute different types of side/lateral raises for each shoulder workout. Just my .02

rule62

Personally seems like to much. I just hit shoulders last night:

Sitting Dumb Bell Press: 5 Sets (Pyramid)
Side Lat Raises: 4x10,8,8,6
Front Dumb Bell Raises: 2x8,8
Bent Over Lat Raises: 4x12,10,8,8

I did more than I planned, but it was feeling good!

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jadakris31

you guys all seem to be overdoing it to me...

somehow trying to get the abs but bulk at the same time.......

tai

yeah i think so too, maybe you should cut down to like 3 excercise instead of 5

Chad Cena III

The only direct shoulder work I do in my routine is standing militaries for 2 sets. Each week it try to get a few more reps or if i'm at say 10-12 reps, i'll add 5lbs.

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PreMier

Hmm, no shrugs or anything

I am going away from the general consensus and say that I think you are doing fine. Remember everyone is different, and if a lot of sets with medium reps makes your shoulders grow and feel good, then keep it up.
Here is my routine, just to give you any ideas if ya want.
Barbell shrugs:
2 sets of 10 reps@ 225Lbs
4 sets of 10 reps@ 315lbs
2 sets of 10 reps@ 405lbs
2 sets of 10 reps@ 315lbs

Behind back barbell shrugs(smith machine):
4 sets of 15 reps@ 225lbs

Behind the neck shoulder presses:
3 sets of 10 reps@ 135lbs
3 sets of 8 reps@ 185lbs

Upright rows:
5 sets of 10-12 reps@ 90lbs

Standing shoulder flys(?) (flap arms like a bird):
5 sets of 10 reps@ 35lbs

I do this routine 3 times a week (MWF) along with arms the same day.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

MeatheadSam

Establishing a good shoulder routine and being satisfied you are working all three heads properly is a tough one.

The shoulders are a small muscle group and will tire quickly if worked hard enough to stimulate them.

When you say shoulders do you also include traps and rhomboids into the group?

I have resoretd to simple shoulder workouts where in one workout I do front and mid delt work primarily with trap work thrown in.

My next shoulder day will concentrate on the rear head and rhomboids/traps with a few sets of military presses to work it all.

I select a group of exercises and on any given workout choose three of the movements to do that day. Once warmed up every set is full tilt.

I train back with shoulders so the rear heads will get a lot of work from that also.

Just a regular guy.

HoldDaMayo

3 times a week? that seems like way too often... twice a week at the most for that kind of workout would make more sense... but if you are happy, I am indeed happy for you...

Are you kidding me????

PreMier

Yea, I tend to be a little extereme right now. MFW is shoulders and arms, and TuesThurs is chest back and legs. Sat is just a heavy leg day.

I am basically just trying to get as big and as strong as humany possible without the help from juice

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

HoldDaMayo

it's going to be difficult to make large gains with a workout that doesn't allow for proper recovery... I don't see how you can be recovering properly with that kind of routine... I'm not trying to tell you how to workout... but if you find you aren't gaining the size you would like... try more days of rest between workouts...

Are you kidding me????

PreMier

I am gaining good size I am also getting very strong. I believe that my 8hrs of sleep a day, and mt 9hrs of sitting on my ass at work is plenty of rest. As for when I plateau... I will be doing a routine similar to P-funks. Have you checked his "Gotta get BIG" thread? His workouts are SUPER intense. But hey it works for him.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

HoldDaMayo

sounds good bro

Good luck, I also enjoy working hard in the gym, gives a nice feeling of satisfaction/exhaustion afterward

Are you kidding me????

Premo55

Do this shoulder/trap routine and you'll be crying at the end of your workout...

4x6 clean and press
5x5 push press
8x3 leaning one-arm lateral raise SUPERSET 8x3 front delt plate raise
10x3 incline rear delt raise
6x5 snatch grip olympic pull (use a snatch grip, start with barbell just below knees, point butt out, pinch shoulders back, then forcefully push through ground with legs and upright row the bar to your chin, forcefully contract the traps at top of movement) SUPERSET 6x5 clean grip olympic pull (same as above, but grip the bar as you would grip a bar for upright rows)
15x1 overhead shrug (press barbell above head, keep it there and shrug for desired reps)
20x1 dumb-bell upright row into Cuban press (take two dumb-bells, upright row them to shoulder level, contract your traps HARD, hold for one second, then rotate your shoulders and arms so your palms face outwards)

Whenever you're shrugging, always remember to use a full range of motion and to contract the traps HARD for one second at the top of the movement.

Peace.

T DOT O.

GodLift

Sounds like overtraining to me too but whatever works for ya

Pain is only somthing to remind you that your still alive.

Larva

i do traps on back day sicne i usually forget to do them on shoulder day. thanks for your input and i do include rhomboids. i just do threee exercises and swith it up each week. i don't thinki could do it 3 times a week. i don't think i could recover

JerseyDevil

I keep my shoulder WO short and sweet. I mix it up every week, but here is what I did the last workout. Intensity is the key.

5 sets military 4-8 reps
4 sets DB presses 8-10 reps
3 sets side laterals 10-12 reps

I do rear delt raises and upright rows on back day. Remember you get plenty of delt simulation from chest work. I train shoulders once every 4-5 days.

Tha Don

mine is similar to this, i do sitting arnold press instead though, nothin beats it

i started using cable raises to finish, they are a killer!.. slow and controlled = ouch!

peace

Prince

my lord!

that is WAAAAY too much for shoulders.

cut that down by one third, I do around 2 exercises for shoulders and it takes me about 20 minutes.

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DEVILtrainer666

want bigger delts ?

i vote pre-exhaust the side and rear heads with dumbell lateral raises a few sets each then perform you military presses but youll have to hang the ego @ the gym door and lower your wieght a bit on presses .
after the press do a couple more lighter sets of cable laterals or dumbells again and finish with a couple sets of shoulder width grip barbell or dumbell upright rows .

train traps on back day after heavy deadlifts and barbell rows in my opinion & follow these on that day with pull ups or pull downs and pull overs (stiff arm on cable or across bench with dumbell ) .

training any body part more than 2xs a week is nuts and sooner or later youll be hurt on roids or not . i prefer 1 day a week for delts as they get hit on chest very hard and even on back day .

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