Primordialperformance.com


Arm question.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 61
  1. #1
    American BadAss
    ELITE MEMBER

    supertech's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,970
    Rep Points
    2168811

    Arm question.

    I need some ideas on getting my biceps to have a higher peak. Right now I have good amount of mass on my arms but my my biceps look flat.So should I stay away from barbell curls and focus more on isolation excercises such as concentration curls? Or am i just stuck with the way my arms are shaped because of genetics?

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Northwest IN, USA
    Posts
    159
    Rep Points
    194101

    I think the way the mucsle is shaped is all genetics, but some people ive talked to think that by using a preacher curl seat resting there arm on it in a flex position with a heavier dumbell then they can curl and twisting there arm from a hamer curl position to a bi curl position and holding it for 10 seconds and doing it for ten reps that it will increase thier peak size but i have never tried it. Also the guys that have said this to me have pretty good peaks. you can try this if you want but like i said im not sure if it works.
    Hope this helps.

  3. #3
    MP Minister of Pain!
    ELITE MEMBER

    DeadBolt's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Ocean County NJ
    Posts
    7,561
    Rep Points
    3272684

    There have been some pretty extensive debates on this one already and some say its genetics and others say its all the excercises. I dunno which one it is but if you search on this topic you will find some pretty good info.
    "Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson

    Today I do what others will not so that tomorrow I can do what others cannot!

  4. #4
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Genetics may play a role, but I believe anyone can build a decent bicep peak if you work hard. The exercises that I have always been told work the best for bicep peaks are preacher curls for one. Do 3-4 sets 10-12 reps and squeeze at the top after each rep. Second do lots of chin ups. Third I would say concentration curls. Preacher and chinups are probably the best though. This is what I hear anyway. I'm still working on my peaks myself. If anyone has a better recommendation I would love to hear it myself.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  5. #5
    American BadAss
    ELITE MEMBER

    supertech's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    1,970
    Rep Points
    2168811

    Thanks for the heads up guys.I'm going to throw some preacher curl in my workout routine.

  6. #6
    cutting

    bballplayer4514's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    82
    Rep Points
    190736

    if u do curls with a closer grip you should hit the pick a little bit better, or atleast thats what i have read, many people will debate you cant isolate certain parts of a muscle tho

  7. #7
    is bulking

    plouffe's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    1,786
    Rep Points
    112456

    Straightbar curls, and double bi curls on a cable machine. Those really get me pumped!
    These are my favorite faces : - - -

    Personal Bests:

    Bench - 235
    Deadlift - 315 X 17
    Squat - 315 X 11
    40 yrd. - 4.65

  8. #8
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602894491


    There is no debate, it's all genetic. If you build your arm and it never peaks, it never will.

  9. #9
    Patrick
    ELITE MEMBER

    P-funk's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    31,754
    Rep Points
    2298749

    Originally posted by Prince
    There is no debate, it's all genetic. If you build your arm and it never peaks, it never will.
    Thanks Prince.......I didn't want to rain on anyones parade so I left it alone.
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

  10. #10
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Prince,

    We're talking about bicep peaks, not the peaks on those boobies of yours

    Originally posted by Prince
    There is no debate, it's all genetic. If you build your arm and it never peaks, it never will.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  11. #11
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602894491


    ha ha

    sorry, but the shape of a muscle is predetermined, you can make the muscle bigger, you CANNOT change it's shape, and a peak on a bicep is part of the shape.

  12. #12
    Member
    ELITE MEMBER

    MikeKy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Home of the KY Derby
    Posts
    174
    Rep Points
    635936

    I was always told that being sure to allow the stretch in the bottom of the motion helps bring the bi to a better peak. No?

    Of course it still doesn't change the shape, just allows it to be all that it can be.
    "Don't think you can, know you can"

  13. #13
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602894491


    NO!

    Nothing builds a peak per se, you build your arm, if a peak develops that is due to the genetic shape and consider yourself lucky, if one never develops it never will. There are no special exercises or anything else that build bicep peaks.

  14. #14
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    I don't know if I agree with you on that Prince.
    Like my arms are continuing to take shape every day. I currently do not have much of a peak. But I believe that with my continuing hard work I will build a nice peak.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  15. #15
    Patrick
    ELITE MEMBER

    P-funk's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    31,754
    Rep Points
    2298749

    your bicep peak is all based upon the attachment of the bicep tendon. This is somehting that cannot be changed unless you go and have it surgically re-attached. Otherwise, you just have to deal with the genetics you were delt and work on making your arms as big as possible.
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

  16. #16
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602894491


    as TP said...clunk, clunk, clunk!

    that is the sound of my head hitting the wall.

    Randy, go do some anatomy and physiology research please.

  17. #17
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Well you see my arm in my gallery now. I hope to prove you wrong in 6 months to 1 year. I hope to have a nice peak or at least show signs of showing good peak potential by then.
    Time will tell.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  18. #18
    Patrick
    ELITE MEMBER

    P-funk's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    31,754
    Rep Points
    2298749

    TP?????

    Yes, a study of anatomy will prove this
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

  19. #19
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Ok Prince I will post some of those brilliant University Tests
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  20. #20
    Patrick
    ELITE MEMBER

    P-funk's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    31,754
    Rep Points
    2298749

    yes, how long have you been lifting?? Also, how old are you, you are probably still growing and have not reached your potential yet.

    Chances are you are not an old man like prince and I.
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

  21. #21
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    I like to think that I'm not an old man yet....I'm 41. But have only been seriously bodybuilding for about 2 years.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  22. #22
    I'm CEO, Bitch!
    ADMINISTRATOR

    Prince's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    A Virtual Reality
    Posts
    53,762
    Rep Points
    1602894491


    yeah, in another thread Twin Peak said that.

    Randy, if a peak develops on your biceps then your biceps were predetermined to be that way. I do not have much of a peak and I never will.

  23. #23
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    I know that I still have a long way to go...And I definately have not reached my peak yet.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  24. #24
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    My dad has a nice peak and he is 80. So if genetics are a factor then I should have inherited the nice peak genetics from my dad right?
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  25. #25
    Patrick
    ELITE MEMBER

    P-funk's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    AZ
    Posts
    31,754
    Rep Points
    2298749

    only time will tell
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

  26. #26
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Exactly p-funk... I really hope I get them Sure makes a big difference in building a nice arm.

    I will pray for it...
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  27. #27
    Go Phillies!

    JerseyDevil's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Southern NJ
    Posts
    8,478
    Rep Points
    152899103


    Lemme see if I got this straight. Twin Peak said that if you are at your peak, and you biceps don't peak, you will never have a peak, even if you train for a peak. I think I'm getting it!


    How about this guys. Although I'm right handed, my left arm has a peak and my right arm doesn't. I guess one peak is better then no peak at all.

    - It's better to have peaked and lost, then to never have peaked at all.
    The blues had a baby, and they named it Rock and Roll

  28. #28
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Now that is funny Jersey.
    Looks like you need to work your peakless arm more my friend.
    I guess genetics only fortified one arm
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

  29. #29
    is bulking

    plouffe's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    1,786
    Rep Points
    112456

    Originally posted by Prince
    There is no debate, it's all genetic. If you build your arm and it never peaks, it never will.
    Well you can't disagree that different bicep movements are better for different things. ( Not a large difference, but there is )
    These are my favorite faces : - - -

    Personal Bests:

    Bench - 235
    Deadlift - 315 X 17
    Squat - 315 X 11
    40 yrd. - 4.65

  30. #30
    Woof! Woof! Woof!
    ELITE MEMBER

    Randy's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    California
    Posts
    7,868
    Rep Points
    5081104

    Yeah, that's been proven plouffe... There are different bicep muscles thereby requiring different movements to train them.
    - O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R -
    Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links
    Gopros latest routines:

    Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. gyno question/workout question
    By scottyshotty in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 05-12-2010, 03:21 PM
  2. Caloric Question, and Workout Question
    By islandjock in forum Diet & Nutrition
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 04-21-2009, 01:01 PM
  3. Answer a Question With A Question...
    By TJ Cline in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 01-26-2006, 04:40 PM
  4. Question about suicide grip question?
    By Larva in forum Training
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 01-06-2004, 02:56 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.