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is it possible to lower BF% and get stronger at the same time?


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Old 12-30-2003, 11:46 PM   #1
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is it possible to lower BF% and get stronger at the same time?

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my current situation is that i've been BB for about 8 months and have gotten bigger and stronger and now i want to cut but i want to keep getting stronger. I am taking just a mult-vitamin/mineral, whey, dextrose, and creatine as my only supps.

In order to maintain strength without overtraining i decided to concentrate most of my training on heavy freeweight compound lifts in the 4-8 rep range. (this is just my assumption as to how i should train for my goal).

i heard that while cutting it is better to more volume and higher reps with less rest time so that your workouts become an areobic endeavor so that you are able to raise your metabolic rate for the rest of the day and aid in cutting bodyfat. true or false?
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Old 12-31-2003, 12:18 AM   #2
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Possible yes, but not terribly easy to lose bodyfat and gain size, especially if you have trained for 6-12 months and/or not obese.

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i heard that while cutting it is better to more volume and higher reps with less rest time so that your workouts become an areobic endeavor so that you are able to raise your metabolic rate for the rest of the day and aid in cutting bodyfat. true or false?
That, and you can lower your rest periods to 30 seconds if you want, but if you want strength this is not how to train. Diet is the first and foremost way of getting the body to do what you want, you can train the same and lose bodyfat via diet.



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You can get stronger without gaining size. Buddy's goal is a strength increase, not a gain in size.

To answer the original question, yes it is possible, as that's what I've been doing for the past few months.
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Old 12-31-2003, 10:07 AM   #4
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I would say it all depends on your metabolism (somatotype), bb'ing history and most of all bodyfat %.

I can see how someone at 15% will be able to still gain strength while getting down to about 9-10%, but after that it will become a struggle for most people to keep their existing strength (again depends on the individual and what their BF setpoint is).



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Old 12-31-2003, 11:27 AM   #5
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It is more than possible to maintain or increase strength, as was stated. Of course, as bodybuilders, we're also looking to maintain or increase LBM, which is why we don't train like powerlifters.

But a hybrid approach works incredibly well, so this isn't an "either or" case when speaking of high volume routines with low rest intervals.

They work exceedingly well for recompositioning, or dieting; unfortunately, people have developed such a myopic approach to dieting, where every calorie is counted, and every conceivable dieting approach is considered. However, few people consider the nature of their training regimen, and how it can be modified to suit their goals.

A caloric is not a calorie, when your body has new demands placed upon it as it happens through training, speaking of how your body comes to view and use each calorie.

Getting back to the hybrid approach, for example:

4 exercises for each bodypart. The first exercise is a basic compound movement performed in the typical fashion: Several sets, moderate reps, with a minute or more rest in between.

After that, the remaining exercises are performed with 30 seconds rest in between sets, and a minute--or thereabout---in between exercises.

Push/pull training is also an excellent way to maintain strength and size on a diet. Think of the importance of frequency and repetition in learning, as that is what neuromuscular and hypertrophic adaptations are--adaptations from learning/stimulation.

For that fact, volume and intensity has to be tempered.

Whenever it is that I decide to diet down again, I can tell you one thing---the primary emphasis will not be on cutting calories at all. That's the narrow-sighted approach, which unfortunately predominates.

The "forest" and the "trees," is very fitting, when I think of how most people approach dieting and training.



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