Randy

GR, if you knew half of what you think you know you really might amount to something. What is really funny is that you are a piece of shit white trash punk that tries to act like a black dude. That is hilarious. You even come across like you're the authority of almost every topic I've seen you involved with. So if anyone is a bitch, it is your pathetic ass. I am open-minded and I don't care who it is, if you make sense I will listen.

Now I agree that there was something to be learned from this thread... In fact your Internet article was pretty interesting. The only thing I didn't agree with was the fact that they implied that marijuana didn't impact ones learning while high . I'm sorry, but if most are high, it will impact you one way or another. I know that 90 percent of those I knew who got high while in class failed miserably, or scored low. And like I said any drug can be a gateway.... But I don't think those disagreeing have closely read what was said.. They keep coming back with incompetent remarks implying that I am saying marijuana and other drugs is in all cases a gateway to others. I never stated that, I said "IT COULD BE". How could anyone argue that it COULD BE. That is like saying that nothing is possible.

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CowPimp

I also know people who get straight As at good colleges being stoned. I don't think it's the learning that gets impacted, I think it's the attention span and the want to learn that are affected. If I'm stoned in a boring class, then I can just daydream all day instead of listening to the teacher if I am stoned. The high is my entertainment. If I'm not stoned, then I just listen so that I don't get bored.

You have to do what works for you. I don't like being stoned in class. Unless it's a class that I really enjoy, I have more trouble paying attention because I don't feel like learning the nonsense. If something interesting comes along, then I have less trouble listening. I can learn just fine at that point.

Please just end the arguing here. Not only has this thread gotten completely off topic, but it has turned into a worthless argument. This thread is supposed to be about bodybuilding and marijuana.

Basically, there is no proof that marijuana significantly impacts the results of a workout program. There is the potential for gains to be reduced because of lower testosterone levels (A numerical representation of the decrease would make an assessment of the situation much easier), but there is still no scientific proof that results are impacted significantly. As well, it has been my experience that it doesn't. I have smoked marijuana while doing a weight lifting program, and I have had many friends smoke during a program as well.

Ralphie

The number four person in my class is a huge pothead. Across the board A's, his gpa is actually a 100.19, we use a hundred scale. Hes taking all Aps and scores very well on all tests.


Then again I can think of a million other ones where its the opposite, thats why studies are needed.

In all cases of debate, if there is a study and proves it, then it is so, no common sense bs. Too opionated.

CowPimp

It just completely depends on the person. Some people can do it, and some people can't. If you can't do it, then don't.

The other thing I notice about pot smokers is they have a lot less trouble quitting or cutting down in comparison to frequent users of other drugs. Most everyone I know that used to be a huge pothead has cut down significantly or quit according to what they are capable of handling.

Randy

I agree, in fact I already mentioned that. Some can do well, some can't. But out of respect for the teachers and yourself I think it is ridiculous to get high in class, and disrespectful to the teacher. If you're that bored with the class you shouldn't be taking it (period!). I know that if I was a teacher and had people coming into my class high I would toss their asses out on their ear.

Now as far as those marijuana smokers having problems quitting.
Well basically as everyone knows, you can develop a psychological addiction. I think if you are one that has strong will power and are the type of person who can accomplish what you put your mind to then you can do just about anything. Again, you are drawn to the habit psychologically, not physically.

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Randy

Ralphie,

Once again I feel that your comments are senseless....

Why do you need tests to show students study habbits on marijuana? So your saying if the tests reveal that students grades are not affected that it is ok to get high in class...(What a twit?)

Again...Use common sense you moron. Common sense tells you that whether your grades are affected by smoking marijuana in class or not, that you still shouldn't do it.

I can drink alcohol and get high before class too. I'm sure it would not affect my grades.... but does this mean I should do it?

Ralphie you newbie.... I think you better go suck your thumb.

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Ralphie

"Once again I feel that your comments are senseless...."
What the hell, I cannot offer some insight into the topic? senseless why is that? I'm simply stating something that I know... want me to go back and show you how many times you have made senseless comments with your experience related posts?


And stop putting words into my mouth, I never said it was ok to get high in class. I have NEVER gone to class high and I don't think its a good idea to. Where the hell did I say that kind of rubbish? Exactly, I didn't.

I'm a newbie ? I guess its because I feel like studies and scientific evidence mean something in a debate/arguement, whereas personal experiences and opinions only go so far. They can back up evidence, but they don't make facts like scientific DATA does.

Randy

Ralphie...You need to grow up my friend.... I hope you don't need studies and scientific evidence to realize that (Just take my word for it)

Your stating something you know? That is the problem! What your stating had nothing to do with my topic

Sure you can go back and find sensless posts of mine. I post em all the time. But when I do, you can clearly see I am joking. But when your in a serious discussion and you post nonsense that don't relate to the topic then that is ridiculous.

Further more, stop PMing me. Damn Do you have a mission to prove that your more stupid then you come across?

AND RALPHIE BUD....CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE BEEN ADDED TO MY IGNORE LIST... Damn what a moron

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Ralphie

Why do I have to state something in lines with "your" topic..
I can post any information I deem relevent.

and dude, wtf when I pmed you I was just asking a question.

Then you started pming me back without shit totally off topic... you even told me that it had no point.. your reply that is.. and I asked you to stop...
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SJ69

F anyone who thinx they know it all and thinks their sh1t don't stink. I aced organic chem, genetics, biochem all easy as shit and I can bench 300 (not impressive, but not pussy sht either)
And you know what? I did it all and was never afraid of enjoying life. To each his own, but don't preach.

SJ69

Well, FWIW, I don't condone getting high IN CLASS.
Sorry if I didn't completely read the thread.
I was just sayin' to each his own but on his own time.
Of course it's not cool at all to get high IN CLASS.

SJ69

No agrument Randy.
I agree.
Get high if you want, just don't disrespect the teacher, class etc

Randy

SJ69,

Thanks Bro...

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squanto

and hooray, sj69 has said it, only took you guys 4 pages of bickering over senseless bullshit to realize!

Randy

I hear ya bro.

I guess just lots of thick heads.
Or clouded heads from all that damn marijuana.

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gr81

I was not squabling, in fact I was the only one here to drop factual information on you folks so you could learn something instead of just going off what the so called expert Randy thinks.

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Ralphie

Hey hey now bro, I may not have posted any studies, but I could have. I am fellow erowid user as well, as well as many other sites.. Lycaeum... the hive... bluelight... murples forums

I think you and I may surf some of the same forums (besides this one of course )

gr81

hell ya bro, erowid is the shit!! I have hit up bluelight before as well. ha ha. I was really speaking towards a few others who know who they are, ya dig. keep up the good work, ha ha.

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Randy

GR and Ralphie....I want to be just like you when I grow up

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gr81

if you grow up that is....

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BigBallaGA

KIDS DONT USE DRUGS !!!!!!!!!

i dont want to pay for your welfare and other social servies with my tax money

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Ralphie

I used to be really big into the bluelight scene as well as the rhodium.... not sure if the site is still up for that one.. prolly is..

was like www.rhodium.ws
or something...

The Hive was hardcore.. but ol bluelight was the best.. for the common folk.. without... a masters in chemistry... that is

Spitfire

First I cant believe i join to late to be in these conversations so i want to "bump" this thread
OK i am a habitual marijuana user it does not make me lazy I smoke everyday before I go to the gym, if anything it helps me focus. and it helps eat my newly aquired diet of 6 meals a day

Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. Abraham Lincoln

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hunter S. Thompson RIP

willus72

ooh lets get into it! you can talk all the mumbo jumbo crap you want but im still gonna say your full of shit! i dont mean to sound like a dick but ive spent over 2 years of my life addicted to heroin and harmless is not at all the word to use. not even including the mental affects it has on ones body it it is very harmful. 3 of my closest friends have died in the past 2 years from heroin overdoses. that to me is pretty harmful. ive seen huge absesses on people from dirty shit. my girlfriend has od'd died and come back 3 times from the shit. i spent countless nights in the hole in prison detoxing, puking, sweating, cramping, and shitting myself coming off of it. then on a mental note in kills all sence of motivation, self-respect, cleanliness, it basically makes you mentally numb to the world. all one cares about is not getting sick. the night i went to prison i was so sick i got drunk to try to ease the pain. in the combo i ended up in jail with charges of agg assult, simple assult, wrecklace endangerment, assult with a deadly weapon, unlawful restrain, and unlaweful imprisonment. i was 17 years o