I don´t feel the need to use diffent exercises per muscle group. Am I wrong?

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 05:51 AM

Let´s take biceps as an example.
I use Hammer Curls, an exercise that in my opinion works the muscle in a great way.
So, Why do I need another type of exercise ? It will do the same.

Larva · 01-20-2004, 07:44 AM

well to hit that muscle at a different angle or movement so the muscle gets shocked more. doing hammers all the time your muscle will get use to it eventually and will not grow anymore or as much

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 09:53 AM

Shock the muscle ? I think that the only real "shock" is when you add more weight.

Larva · 01-20-2004, 10:05 AM

well that is true also. hey if doing one exercise per body part works for you thats great, but for me i fine that doing different movements helps me build more but thats what works for me.

tjwes · 01-20-2004, 10:31 AM

Simple ,after a while your body will get used to hammer curls and stop responding to them.The body eventually adapts to all stresses put on it.If you don`t ascribe to this, try doing preacher curls instead ,you will probably get sore even though you`ve been training biceps by doing hammer`s.Another thing is that you would probably become very bored with your training ,and if you aren`t enjoying what you do, chances are you won`t be so enthusiastic about doing it at all.

sYkboY · 01-20-2004, 10:31 AM

Example of why you should hit it from all angles:

Hold your arm, flexed, in the hammer curl position.

Now, keeping the muscle flexed, rotate your wrist inwards(pinky towards your face).

Can you feel a difference? Does the muscle seem to change shape? It should. This is a part of the muscle range you are neglecting.

BUSTINOUT · 01-20-2004, 10:42 AM

I recommend studying principles. Regardless of what we "think" we know, principles always apply and usually go against what we "think". Study successful bodybuilders throughout the years. Very few made it big with your reasoning or methods. Not trying to be an ass here, but simple reasoning has to step in something. Why go against success?

Deeznuts · 01-20-2004, 10:53 AM

Same thing as everyone else said....your muscles are going to eventually get used to those hammer curls. You're going to need to target a different part of the muscle in a different way.

QuestionGuy · 01-20-2004, 11:23 AM

hey man here is a good one, Imagine if you did the same pussy the same way at the same place just a little harder every time, how would you feel ?????? think about it, that how you muscles would feel man, you need to shok the muslce surprise it make it work in the way that it never did. My friends thouth that by doin the same shit week after week after week just a little harder would give them great results and they didnt want to listen to me, now the are all resigned from the gym..... i mean im not trying to be an asshole or a smartass im just saying..................................goood luck to you!!!

Larva · 01-20-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by QuestionGuy
hey man here is a good one, Imagine if you did the same pussy the same way at the same place just a little harder every time, how would you feel ??????

Tha Don · 01-20-2004, 12:30 PM

you'll get shit growth doing just hammer curls

you should be using at least 2-3 different exercises each bi workout, rotating others in every month or so

its your choice, weather you want a shit bicep or wheather you want a bigger better shaped more developed set of Bi's

the pros got their huge bi's by using 10+ different bicep exercises, not just 1!

peace

Deeznuts · 01-20-2004, 02:22 PM

lmao
Great comparison question guy

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 02:35 PM

Thanks everybody for your answers, I will adapt and do 3 different exercises per body part.

M.J.H. · 01-20-2004, 03:07 PM

Some good info from some of you guys, I like what I am reading.

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Shock the muscle ? I think that the only real "shock" is when you add more weight.

Agreed. You don't "shock" your muscles by hitting them from 30 different angles, youre just wasting your time. Pick a basic exercise that stresses the intended musclegroup, and concentrate on progressive overload. That's going to shock your muscles more than stressing them 50 different exercises.

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 03:47 PM

Ok, so I am back to my original belief.

plouffe · 01-20-2004, 05:08 PM

Put it this way :

Would your rather screw a blonde or instead, screw a red head, and burnette, plus the blonde?!

More variety, the better

* went something like that.

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 05:45 PM

Using the metaphor of women ..
What if I do a blonde, another blonde, and one more blonde ?

Premo55 · 01-20-2004, 06:13 PM

I was actually thinking the same thing the other day. Instead of doing leg presses, step-ups, leg extensions and squats in the same workout for quads, can't we just do a hell of a lot of squats till exhaustion, then finish off with leg extensions?

Peace.

Vieope · 01-20-2004, 06:44 PM

Premo55, you are one more that think the same way as I do.

We just need scientific proof.

Where is GoPro,Prince ..and the other gurus of the forum ?
I really need a final word.

BUSTINOUT · 01-20-2004, 07:54 PM

If you want the final word, read gopro's P/RR/S workout. It's good info.

BUSTINOUT · 01-20-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Premo55
I was actually thinking the same thing the other day. Instead of doing leg presses, step-ups, leg extensions and squats in the same workout for quads, can't we just do a hell of a lot of squats till exhaustion, then finish off with leg extensions?

Peace.

That's fine...occasionally. Do that day in and day out and see how stale your workouts become.

Vieope · 01-21-2004, 08:16 AM

I found this thread: "Inner Chest-Genetics?" . There they discuss a little bit of biomechanics and how a muscle grow in one way and there is no way a exercise change a shape of the muscle.

One more point for those that believe that one exercise is enough.

sYkboY · 01-21-2004, 09:03 AM

Did you try what I suggested? Are you saying hammers are going to hit that range that contracted whey you rotated your wrist? We, who believe in using diff. exercises, must be wrong.

Damn. Guess we should just flat bench for chest dev or just DB Bench. No inclines, no declines, no flies, nothing.

Sounds good. Go get huge.

I'll keep irritating my muscles every way I can think of.

BUSTINOUT · 01-21-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Vieope
I found this thread: "Inner Chest-Genetics?" . There they discuss a little bit of biomechanics and how a muscle grow in one way and there is no way a exercise change a shape of the muscle.

One more point for those that believe that one exercise is enough.

You obviously are only interested in training one way, so why even bother posting the question?

A muscle not changing shape does not validate your theory of only one exersice being sufficient. I don't know where you came up with that.

**Prince** · 01-21-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vieope
I found this thread: "Inner Chest-Genetics?" . There they discuss a little bit of biomechanics and how a muscle grow in one way and there is no way a exercise change a shape of the muscle.

One more point for those that believe that one exercise is enough.

you're taking that out of context...

yes one exercise will cause an entire muscle to grow (such as the pec major), but that does not mean you should only use one exercise.

BUSTINOUT · 01-21-2004, 10:23 AM

Finally...a voice of friggin reason.

Vieope · 01-21-2004, 10:37 AM

BUSTINOUT ".... so why even bother posting the question?"

Because that is the reason why forums exist, for people to express different forms of view, to finally make a conclusion.

Vieope · 01-21-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Prince
yes one exercise will cause an entire muscle to grow (such as the pec major)

Isn´t that what we are looking for ?

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... but that does not mean you should only use one exercise.

What are the bad things for just one exercise?

sYkboY · 01-21-2004, 10:55 AM

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Because that is the reason why forums exist, for people to express different forms of view, to finally make a conclusion.

Yes. But perhaps it would have been better for you to say, "I believe in doing one excercise per BP, try to convice me otherwise, if you can. I am not going to give anything you say as much weight as what I already believe." J/K but seriously. You do seem to already have your mind made up. My suggestion to you is that training is something you will(hopefully) do for a very long time. Try different things every once in a while. Some ideas are good, some don't work. See what is best for you. Muscle growth comes from addaptation, at least by most pools of thought. What better way to make muscles adapt than by submitting them to different kinds of irritiation? Different lifts, weights, rep ranges. My opinion, for what its worth.

01-20-2004, 05:51 AM	#1
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	I don´t feel the need to use diffent exercises per muscle group. Am I wrong? BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Let´s take biceps as an example. I use Hammer Curls, an exercise that in my opinion works the muscle in a great way. So, Why do I need another type of exercise ? It will do the same.

01-20-2004, 10:31 AM	#5
tjwes "You Can`t Flex Fat" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 456 Photos: 8	Simple ,after a while your body will get used to hammer curls and stop responding to them.The body eventually adapts to all stresses put on it.If you don`t ascribe to this, try doing preacher curls instead ,you will probably get sore even though you`ve been training biceps by doing hammer`s.Another thing is that you would probably become very bored with your training ,and if you aren`t enjoying what you do, chances are you won`t be so enthusiastic about doing it at all.
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01-20-2004, 10:31 AM	#6
sYkboY Bangin' Plates! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 67	Example of why you should hit it from all angles: Hold your arm, flexed, in the hammer curl position. Now, keeping the muscle flexed, rotate your wrist inwards(pinky towards your face). Can you feel a difference? Does the muscle seem to change shape? It should. This is a part of the muscle range you are neglecting. Last edited by sYkboY : 01-20-2004 at 10:48 AM.
	Still losing fat and gaining muscle. Man, feels like it takes for ever to get lean again and the strength doesn't come back over night.

01-20-2004, 10:53 AM	#8
Deeznuts Still Growing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 771 Photos: 2	Same thing as everyone else said....your muscles are going to eventually get used to those hammer curls. You're going to need to target a different part of the muscle in a different way.
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01-20-2004, 02:22 PM	#12
Deeznuts Still Growing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 771 Photos: 2	lmao Great comparison question guy
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01-20-2004, 07:44 AM	#2
Larva Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: LI NY Posts: 646 Photos: 11	well to hit that muscle at a different angle or movement so the muscle gets shocked more. doing hammers all the time your muscle will get use to it eventually and will not grow anymore or as much

01-20-2004, 09:53 AM	#3
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Shock the muscle ? I think that the only real "shock" is when you add more weight.

01-20-2004, 10:05 AM	#4
Larva Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: LI NY Posts: 646 Photos: 11	well that is true also. hey if doing one exercise per body part works for you thats great, but for me i fine that doing different movements helps me build more but thats what works for me.

01-20-2004, 10:42 AM	#7
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,408	I recommend studying principles. Regardless of what we "think" we know, principles always apply and usually go against what we "think". Study successful bodybuilders throughout the years. Very few made it big with your reasoning or methods. Not trying to be an ass here, but simple reasoning has to step in something. Why go against success?

01-20-2004, 11:23 AM	#9
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	hey man here is a good one, Imagine if you did the same pussy the same way at the same place just a little harder every time, how would you feel ?????? think about it, that how you muscles would feel man, you need to shok the muslce surprise it make it work in the way that it never did. My friends thouth that by doin the same shit week after week after week just a little harder would give them great results and they didnt want to listen to me, now the are all resigned from the gym..... i mean im not trying to be an asshole or a smartass im just saying..................................goood luck to you!!!

01-20-2004, 12:30 PM	#11
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	you'll get shit growth doing just hammer curls you should be using at least 2-3 different exercises each bi workout, rotating others in every month or so its your choice, weather you want a shit bicep or wheather you want a bigger better shaped more developed set of Bi's the pros got their huge bi's by using 10+ different bicep exercises, not just 1! peace

01-20-2004, 02:35 PM	#13
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Thanks everybody for your answers, I will adapt and do 3 different exercises per body part.

01-20-2004, 03:47 PM	#15
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Ok, so I am back to my original belief.

01-20-2004, 05:08 PM	#16
plouffe is bulking Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,786 Photos: 6	Put it this way : Would your rather screw a blonde or instead, screw a red head, and burnette, plus the blonde?! More variety, the better * went something like that.
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01-20-2004, 05:45 PM	#17
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Using the metaphor of women .. What if I do a blonde, another blonde, and one more blonde ?

01-20-2004, 06:13 PM	#18
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	I was actually thinking the same thing the other day. Instead of doing leg presses, step-ups, leg extensions and squats in the same workout for quads, can't we just do a hell of a lot of squats till exhaustion, then finish off with leg extensions? Peace.
	T DOT O.

01-20-2004, 06:44 PM	#19
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	Premo55, you are one more that think the same way as I do. We just need scientific proof. Where is GoPro,Prince ..and the other gurus of the forum ? I really need a final word.

01-20-2004, 07:54 PM	#20
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,408	If you want the final word, read gopro's P/RR/S workout. It's good info.

01-21-2004, 08:16 AM	#22
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	I found this thread: "Inner Chest-Genetics?" . There they discuss a little bit of biomechanics and how a muscle grow in one way and there is no way a exercise change a shape of the muscle. One more point for those that believe that one exercise is enough.

01-21-2004, 09:03 AM	#23
sYkboY Bangin' Plates! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 67	Did you try what I suggested? Are you saying hammers are going to hit that range that contracted whey you rotated your wrist? We, who believe in using diff. exercises, must be wrong. Damn. Guess we should just flat bench for chest dev or just DB Bench. No inclines, no declines, no flies, nothing. Sounds good. Go get huge. I'll keep irritating my muscles every way I can think of.
	Still losing fat and gaining muscle. Man, feels like it takes for ever to get lean again and the strength doesn't come back over night.

01-21-2004, 10:23 AM	#26
BUSTINOUT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,408	Finally...a voice of friggin reason.

01-21-2004, 10:37 AM	#27
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,808 Photos: 10	BUSTINOUT ".... so why even bother posting the question?" Because that is the reason why forums exist, for people to express different forms of view, to finally make a conclusion.