Which Are You?

jmr1979 · 01-28-2004, 12:17 PM

I would say i go for power and i feel i am pretty powerful for my size but there is always room for improvement.

vanillagorilla · 01-29-2004, 06:56 PM

Powerlifter. I would love to be a bodybuilder...but i love food too much....good food i mean, with salt and fat...yum. It's hard to go both ways (bodybuilder/powerlifter). Ronnie Coleman is a freak of nature (and other stuff).

myCATpowerlifts · 01-31-2004, 12:04 PM

It was mentioned that Ronnie Coleman lifts heavy but has a body-builders diet. Actually he has a body-builders workout too. He lifts heavy yea but of sets with 10-15 reps mostly. Though it maybe heavy to us, its not to him. Just think if he lifted weights that he could do for 3-6 reps.

Like and actual powerlifter.

Hulkk500 · 09-15-2004, 09:33 AM

PowerBuilder. I get more size gains through strength training than anything. I value size and shape more than strength, but I love benching 500lbs. (thats my max, hehe)

Minotaur · 09-16-2004, 07:51 AM

I'm somewhere between a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. I have the build of a (fat) powerlifter but not the numbers. I'm still fat (20-25 lbs), but carrying a lot of muscle. I need to strip the fat. People are telling me that I'm getting more muscular and bigger. My clothes are saying this too.

My goal is actually a thick, powerful look, but carrying a lot less fat. More like a lean powerlifter or strongman. I'm not into the ripped and super-shredded look.

Yet, I want to increase my lifts and strength, and I work towards that. Maybe that's why it's so hard to cut.

Flex · 09-16-2004, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vanillagorilla

Powerlifter. I would love to be a bodybuilder...but i love food too much....good food i mean, with salt and fat...yum. It's hard to go both ways (bodybuilder/powerlifter). Ronnie Coleman is a freak of nature (and other stuff).

why could you not be a BB?

i eat EVERYthing. and the main reason people don't get the gains they want is cuz they don't get enough cals......

so eating up and "becoming" a BB go together, bro.....

Flex · 09-16-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

It was mentioned that Ronnie Coleman lifts heavy but has a body-builders diet. Actually he has a body-builders workout too. He lifts heavy yea but of sets with 10-15 reps mostly. Though it maybe heavy to us, its not to him. Just think if he lifted weights that he could do for 3-6 reps.

He DOES lift with reps of 3-6 mostly. I believe he utilizes a pyramid style, working his way up to max. weight.....

and a BB diet? sure he eats clean, but you knwo how many cals he takes in daily? its ridiculous. if any natural person ate what he ate, even cleanly, they'd get fat. i wouldnt call that a BB diet. i'd call it a "steroid diet".

Uzi9 · 09-16-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

I voted #2

There is whats called a "powerbuilder," like Ronnie Coleman, someone who lifts HEAVY but has a bodybuilders diet.

I dont go under 275 for reps now on the bent over rows, and I love to see improvement there.

When I saw ronnine colemans training vid he lifted what others would call heavy but wasnt heavy to him because he was pumping the weights on all sets.

Flex · 09-16-2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

When I saw ronnine colemans training vid he lifted what others would call heavy but wasnt heavy to him because he was pumping the weights on all sets.

wasn't heavy to him?

Some exercizes he did go for a few more reps, but he deadlifted 805x2, front-squatted 485x4. Don't forget he's prepping for a contest, so he wasn't even

that seemed pretty heavy to him.
(even though he claims "Dat wuh LIGHT......REEEEEEal light....Anybody could do dat")

gr81 · 09-16-2004, 05:24 PM

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Anabolics are definitely not good for you, they shut down your body's natural horomone production temporarily, there is nothing good about that, at all. Maybe taking steroids is not any worse than smoking pot, or getting drunk on a regular basis... but none of those things are healthy either.

why are they not good for you? I can make the argument that a well planned cycle 1 or twice a year that abides within reason is GOOD for you! you cannot compare AAS to pot or alcohool btw, apples and oranges maYn. Nothing wrong with shutting down your natural production if your are exogenously recieving X times the natuiral amount. You will recover

Randy · 09-18-2004, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

my vote was: Bodybuilder, But Take Pride in Strength

GIZmo_Timme · 09-18-2004, 07:12 AM

what is the difference between PH's and anabolics?

**Prince** · 12-31-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GIZmo_Timme

what is the difference between PH's and anabolics?

PH = prohormones
anabolics = anabolic steroids

chunky34 · 12-31-2004, 01:31 PM

Im a bodybuilder, and will always be. It's great to be strong, but I don't care much. That's why I use HST style training. Even I dont care much about strength, it is going up each cycle, like 10-30 lbs on each lift. No big deal, but since I can do 6 cycle in a year, in the long run, it is a good improvement.

Muscle mass 1st, strength follow.

RCfootball87 · 01-01-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gr81

why are they not good for you? I can make the argument that a well planned cycle 1 or twice a year that abides within reason is GOOD for you! you cannot compare AAS to pot or alcohool btw, apples and oranges maYn. Nothing wrong with shutting down your natural production if your are exogenously recieving X times the natuiral amount. You will recover

I agree with GR8 here. Besides, I happen to think a lot of bodybuilding is unhealthy regardless of what people say. Eating incredible amount of calories, mainly from poultry, meat, eggs, etc, does hell on your cholestrerol levels and isn't all that great. I mean it's better than being out of shape I suppose, if you were after health a basic balanced lifting program combined with cardio would be the way to go. Pro-bodybuilders are in worse shape health wise that alcoholics.

DeadBolt · 01-01-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RCfootball87

I agree with GR8 here. Besides, I happen to think a lot of bodybuilding is unhealthy regardless of what people say. Eating incredible amount of calories, mainly from poultry, meat, eggs, etc, does hell on your cholestrerol levels and isn't all that great. I mean it's better than being out of shape I suppose, if you were after health a basic balanced lifting program combined with cardio would be the way to go. Pro-bodybuilders are in worse shape health wise that alcoholics.

I disagree with some of this. Yes when a person is competition ready it is very un healthy but yearly living of a bodybuilding is not unhealthy. Whats wrong with eating alot of calories and meat? These do not raise your cholesterol levels if they are the proper foods.....in fact they will lower your bad cholesterol levels and raise the good ones in combination with training.

And whats with the deal bodybuilders are in worse shape then alcoholics?!?!?!

Where the hell did you get that from....now I am not a professional body builder but I am currently training for my first show...I will be joining my first npc comp in my area in a few weeks....and I am in much better health conditions then an alcoholic! I have not a fault with my health, blood pressure, cholesterol, yatta yatta yatta are perfect. I can be certain that if you get an alcoholic and test them they wont be as helthy as I am. With the amounts of meat and fats I take in many would think I would die of a heart attack in a few days but if the proper calories are consumed it is healthy to do so....sure 30g's of saturated fat a day is very bad but with well rounded and proper efa's thats nothing for some people.

BigDyl · 01-01-2005, 02:23 PM

#2

LITE WEIGHT!

Oh and he didnt do the ultra light 485 x 4 in front squats. He did 585, and it was for liek 6/7, wasnt it?

tenxyearsxgone · 01-03-2005, 03:20 PM

look at how many bodybuilders have had and are having and will have health complications from what they do to their bodies... yeah its a myth???

Duncans Donuts · 01-03-2005, 03:56 PM

IFBB professional bodybuilders (at least the top ones) are not beacons to aspire to...

They certainly aren't healthy. Go back to the 70s and 80s, where anabolics weren't used to the disgusting degree, and you will see some of the best physiques of all time in terms of symmetry and proportions

Egoatdoor · 01-03-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex

He DOES lift with reps of 3-6 mostly. I believe he utilizes a pyramid style, working his way up to max. weight.....

NO!!!! In his DVD "The Cost of Redemption", he is lifting in almost all exercises on the 10-15 rep range. In his Flex Magazine column, he has said he normally works in the 12 rep range.

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and a BB diet? sure he eats clean, but you knwo how many cals he takes in daily? its ridiculous. if any natural person ate what he ate, even cleanly, they'd get fat. i wouldnt call that a BB diet. i'd call it a "steroid diet".

I don't think you know much about Ronnie. He doesn't eat "clean". He eats out at least twice a day and is a frequent( almost daily) visitor to Outback Steakhouse.

In a column that I believe Ron Harris wrote about Ronnie being a freak of nature, Ron said that Ronnie breaks many rules on things like how he eats and the form( sloppy, sloppy, sloppy) he uses on exercises, but he is the 1 in 100,000 who can do everything wrong and still be the best in the world.

Egoatdoor · 01-03-2005, 06:43 PM

Bodybuilder not concerned with strength.

Vieope · 01-06-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GIZmo_Timme

what is the difference between PH's and anabolics?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

PH = prohormones
anabolics = anabolic steroids

Damn, that is some good explanation.

SuperFlex · 01-06-2005, 07:53 PM

Bodybuilder, But Take Pride in Strength

sgtneo · 01-08-2005, 08:56 AM

i am aiming to get very bulked up and close to bodybuilder size but also take pride in increasing strength

Neo

oh and you dont want to argue with gr81 about anabolics and ph's he makes a very convincing argument as i well know, al though its something i personly would never venture into i would recomend doing some proper research on it not just about what symptoms there are but reports writen by very clever people and your realise alot of the stuff writen about steroids is just hype

View Poll Results: What Do You Consider Yourself?
Bodybuilder Not Concerned With Strength	25	16.13%
Bodybuilder, But Take Pride in Strength	104	67.10%
Powerlifter / Strongman	12	7.74%
Fitness Model / Fitness Trainer	14	9.03%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

01-28-2004, 12:17 PM	#31
jmr1979 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 213	I would say i go for power and i feel i am pretty powerful for my size but there is always room for improvement.
	5'10 190 bench: 350 squat: 450 x 6 deads: 475 x 6

09-15-2004, 09:33 AM	#34
Hulkk500 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73	PowerBuilder. I get more size gains through strength training than anything. I value size and shape more than strength, but I love benching 500lbs. (thats my max, hehe)
Hulkk500 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73

12-31-2004, 01:31 PM	#44
chunky34 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	Im a bodybuilder, and will always be. It's great to be strong, but I don't care much. That's why I use HST style training. Even I dont care much about strength, it is going up each cycle, like 10-30 lbs on each lift. No big deal, but since I can do 6 cycle in a year, in the long run, it is a good improvement. Muscle mass 1st, strength follow.
chunky34 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	God bless Use the discount code JFA999 for 5% discount on trueprotein.com orders.

01-03-2005, 03:20 PM	#48
tenxyearsxgone Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: long island Posts: 370	look at how many bodybuilders have had and are having and will have health complications from what they do to their bodies... yeah its a myth???
	Squat: 5x5: 295lbs Bench: 1x4: 275 Dead: 1x1: 475

01-29-2004, 06:56 PM	#32
vanillagorilla Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CALI Posts: 26	Powerlifter. I would love to be a bodybuilder...but i love food too much....good food i mean, with salt and fat...yum. It's hard to go both ways (bodybuilder/powerlifter). Ronnie Coleman is a freak of nature (and other stuff).

01-31-2004, 12:04 PM	#33
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	It was mentioned that Ronnie Coleman lifts heavy but has a body-builders diet. Actually he has a body-builders workout too. He lifts heavy yea but of sets with 10-15 reps mostly. Though it maybe heavy to us, its not to him. Just think if he lifted weights that he could do for 3-6 reps. Like and actual powerlifter.

09-16-2004, 07:51 AM	#35
Minotaur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NA Posts: 536 Photos: 4	I'm somewhere between a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. I have the build of a (fat) powerlifter but not the numbers. I'm still fat (20-25 lbs), but carrying a lot of muscle. I need to strip the fat. People are telling me that I'm getting more muscular and bigger. My clothes are saying this too. My goal is actually a thick, powerful look, but carrying a lot less fat. More like a lean powerlifter or strongman. I'm not into the ripped and super-shredded look. Yet, I want to increase my lifts and strength, and I work towards that. Maybe that's why it's so hard to cut.

09-18-2004, 07:12 AM	#42
GIZmo_Timme tjwes, I can flex fat ;) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 165 Photos: 8	what is the difference between PH's and anabolics?

01-03-2005, 03:56 PM	#49
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	IFBB professional bodybuilders (at least the top ones) are not beacons to aspire to... They certainly aren't healthy. Go back to the 70s and 80s, where anabolics weren't used to the disgusting degree, and you will see some of the best physiques of all time in terms of symmetry and proportions
	"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

01-03-2005, 06:43 PM	#51
Egoatdoor Its time to eat...AGAIN! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Richmond Virginia Posts: 1,033	Bodybuilder not concerned with strength.
	Getting bigger is a battle and the weapon is my fork. "The harder I work, the luckier I get"- Jenny Lynn

01-06-2005, 07:53 PM	#53
SuperFlex Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,321	Bodybuilder, But Take Pride in Strength
	May the Lord Jesus Christ bless those who bless me as I gladly accept their blessings, and curse those who curse me all the while protecting me for any evils. In Christ name, amen...

01-08-2005, 08:56 AM	#54
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	i am aiming to get very bulked up and close to bodybuilder size but also take pride in increasing strength Neo oh and you dont want to argue with gr81 about anabolics and ph's he makes a very convincing argument as i well know, al though its something i personly would never venture into i would recomend doing some proper research on it not just about what symptoms there are but reports writen by very clever people and your realise alot of the stuff writen about steroids is just hype

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