Help with my back workout

Premo55 · 01-25-2004, 09:04 PM

So here's my back workout for my power/strength week:
6 sets of wide-grip pull-ups to failure
5 sets of chin-ups to failure
5 sets x 5 conventional deadlifts on 4 inch blocks
4 sets x 6 T-bar rows (neutral grip)
3 sets x 6 dumb-bell rows

What I want to ask is, how would it impact my workout if I placed deads before the pull-ups and chins? Also, any critique on this routine?

Peace.

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 03:54 AM

placing the deads before the chins will fatigue your reardelts and arms so it may be harder to dot he chins, not to mention overal energy expenditure.

One think I would add to your program is some sort of roew in the transverse plane of motion and take out one of the other rows you have there (or maybe alternate them weekly). The WG pullups are a frontal plane motion and the other rows and the chins are more in the sagital plane. I would throw in something like a barbell row or wide grip t-bar row to work the transverse plane, get more scapular adduction, better activation of the romboids...etc.

Premo55 · 01-26-2004, 06:40 AM

Funk, barbell row= pronated, not supinated, right?

Peace.

M.J.H. · 01-26-2004, 08:54 AM

Quote:

So here's my back workout for my power/strength week:
6 sets of wide-grip pull-ups to failure
5 sets of chin-ups to failure
5 sets x 5 conventional deadlifts on 4 inch blocks
4 sets x 6 T-bar rows (neutral grip)
3 sets x 6 dumb-bell rows

Wow, this is way too extreme in terms of volume if you ask me. I would cut the sets down some if I were you. 11 sets of pull-ups is just ridiculous. Then youre doing conventional deadlifts, which dont stress your lats. Conventional deadlifts will hit your lower back, hamstrings, glutes, and traps. T-bar and DB rows look good, just cut the volume down some.

**Mudge** · 01-26-2004, 10:29 AM

I was getting close to 20 sets and I thought I was doing alot

tjwes · 01-26-2004, 12:58 PM

Too much volume.How can your back ever recover from all those heavy compound movemets, at that number of sets? Just do chins,deads,and a rowing movement.4 sets a peice,and work your ass off!

plouffe · 01-26-2004, 01:28 PM

Break up your pull-up routine like this to hit your back at more angles:

6 sets of wide-grip pull-ups to failure =

2 Wide-Grip
2 Medium-Grip
2 Close-Grip

* Seated Rows : A wider bar isolates your back/lats better IMO.

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Premo55
Funk, barbell row= pronated, not supinated, right?

Peace.

yes, pronated (palms down). Supinated is going to end up not allowing you to flare your elbows out because of the position the radius is in which will end up making it more in the sagital plane.

Premo55 · 01-26-2004, 03:22 PM

Thanks man. There's no body part I enjoy training more than my back. Well, legs too, I suppose.

Peace.

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 03:23 PM

I hear ya....legs and back are my favorites (in that order of course.)

Premo55 · 01-26-2004, 03:26 PM

^^ Your v-cut taper is insane, man. Hope I get to that level in a few years!

Peace.

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 03:27 PM

thanks.....lol, that picture is old....I was 150lbs in that pic.

I am 193lbs right now (hit 197lbs at my heaviest during my bulk). I am going to try and get some new pics this weeked as I start to get my precontest diet together.

Premo55 · 01-26-2004, 03:28 PM

^ I think those pictures would depress me.

Peace.

01-25-2004, 09:04 PM	#1
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Help with my back workout BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com So here's my back workout for my power/strength week: 6 sets of wide-grip pull-ups to failure 5 sets of chin-ups to failure 5 sets x 5 conventional deadlifts on 4 inch blocks 4 sets x 6 T-bar rows (neutral grip) 3 sets x 6 dumb-bell rows What I want to ask is, how would it impact my workout if I placed deads before the pull-ups and chins? Also, any critique on this routine? Peace.
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01-26-2004, 03:54 AM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,234	placing the deads before the chins will fatigue your reardelts and arms so it may be harder to dot he chins, not to mention overal energy expenditure. One think I would add to your program is some sort of roew in the transverse plane of motion and take out one of the other rows you have there (or maybe alternate them weekly). The WG pullups are a frontal plane motion and the other rows and the chins are more in the sagital plane. I would throw in something like a barbell row or wide grip t-bar row to work the transverse plane, get more scapular adduction, better activation of the romboids...etc.
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01-26-2004, 06:40 AM	#3
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Funk, barbell row= pronated, not supinated, right? Peace.
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01-26-2004, 10:29 AM	#5
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tjwes "You Can`t Flex Fat" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 456 Photos: 8	Too much volume.How can your back ever recover from all those heavy compound movemets, at that number of sets? Just do chins,deads,and a rowing movement.4 sets a peice,and work your ass off!
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01-26-2004, 01:28 PM	#7
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01-26-2004, 03:22 PM	#9
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Thanks man. There's no body part I enjoy training more than my back. Well, legs too, I suppose. Peace.
	T DOT O.

01-26-2004, 03:23 PM	#10
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,234	I hear ya....legs and back are my favorites (in that order of course.)
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01-26-2004, 03:26 PM	#11
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	^^ Your v-cut taper is insane, man. Hope I get to that level in a few years! Peace.
	T DOT O.

01-26-2004, 03:27 PM	#12
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,234	thanks.....lol, that picture is old....I was 150lbs in that pic. I am 193lbs right now (hit 197lbs at my heaviest during my bulk). I am going to try and get some new pics this weeked as I start to get my precontest diet together.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

01-26-2004, 03:28 PM	#13
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	^ I think those pictures would depress me. Peace.
	T DOT O.

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