Still dont understand! :(

Brak86 · 02-11-2004, 06:53 PM

Hey u all. I used to hear: "as long as u give each muscle a full day of rest, ure ok. You can lift the same muscles...just make sure its not on consecutive days"

Now from what i see u all sayin: "give atleast 72 hours for each muscle to rest."

I see a lot of u do one muscle a week. Some of u all that do this seem to be HUGE...but i dont undersatnd...it feels like that is too little for each muscle,....how do ure muscles grow bigger if u work each out ONCE a week?! I mean i do each muscle twice a week and give them two days a week (for example, chest, tris and shoulders on monday then thursday). Im so confused. DO u all that do the one-muscle-a-week thing train till failure or somethin? do u all just train that one muscle till that muscle feels like it cant do anythin else afterwards?

Vieope · 02-11-2004, 07:00 PM

It all depends, what works for one doens´t work for other ..
I do each muscle group only one time per week and sometimes it is not enough.

PreMier · 02-11-2004, 07:03 PM

When I was younger I ALWAYS trained 1 muscle to failure 1 day a week. I got nice and strong, and pretty decent size. Now I have moved to more advanced routine.

Vieope · 02-11-2004, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
When I was younger I ALWAYS trained 1 muscle to failure 1 day a week. I got nice and strong, and pretty decent size. Now I have moved to more advanced routine.

Oh yeah ? What is that ?

PreMier · 02-11-2004, 07:13 PM

What is what?

Vieope · 02-11-2004, 07:15 PM

The advanced training method.

PreMier · 02-11-2004, 07:19 PM

Right now it is:
Mon: on
Tues: on
Wed: on
Thur: off
Fri: on
Sat: on
Sun: off

And the workouts are:
Legs
Chest/Shoulders/Tris
Back/Rhomboids/Bis

So each week the workout will be on a different day because the split is designed to give 72hrs rest per muscle group.

Vieope · 02-11-2004, 07:38 PM

I give it one week or more of rest because IMO catabolism doesn´t occur that fast if the caloric intake is correct.

camarosuper6 · 02-11-2004, 07:45 PM

I too think it has to do with the individual, although their are some good studies that show as long as you dont train to failure, your ready to go in 48 hours or so. My training split is as such:

Mon: Chest/Tri's/Abs (Hypertrophy, not to failure)
Tue: Back/Shoulders/Bi's (Hypertrophy, not to failure)
Wed: Legs (Hypertrophy, not to failure)
Thur: Off
Fri: Upper Body, including deadlifts (Strength, to failure)
Sat: Lower Body (Strength, to failure)

Somtimes I do a cycle. 3days hypertrophy/off/3 days hypertrophy/off/2days strength/off/off

Repeat.

Brak86 · 02-11-2004, 08:02 PM

camaro...im sure ure split is awesome...but the reason why i do chest tris and shoulders on same day lkike premier is doin...is cause i think some chest exercises work the shoulders as a secondary workout...so after u do chest on monday...then u do shoudlers on tues....isnt that bad? i have no clue!! ahh! ahaha...enlighten mee

Brak86 · 02-11-2004, 08:07 PM

also............curretnly im doin monday tues thurs fri....with three muscles on monday and thurs....and the other three tues and fri.....and im getting stronger with this routine...should iw ait till i stop getting gains till i switch and stop doin this routine?

PreMier · 02-11-2004, 08:11 PM

I change my routine every 12-16 weeks.

Willdebeast · 02-11-2004, 08:30 PM

Hey u all. I used to hear: "as long as u give each muscle a full day of rest, ure ok. You can lift the same muscles...just make sure its not on consecutive days"

Now from what i see u all sayin: "give atleast 72 hours for each muscle to rest."

I see a lot of u do one muscle a week. Some of u all that do this seem to be HUGE...but i dont undersatnd...it feels like that is too little for each muscle,....how do ure muscles grow bigger if u work each out ONCE a week?! I mean i do each muscle twice a week and give them two days a week (for example, chest, tris and shoulders on monday then thursday). Im so confused. DO u all that do the one-muscle-a-week thing train till failure or somethin? do u all just train that one muscle till that muscle feels like it cant do anythin else afterwards?
if you are a beginner you might want to try a two day split upper- lower or push-pull 3x a week and once you reach a more of an intermediate level of fitness perhaps you could break it down to a 3 day split. hitting muscles less often but a lot harder. from there go to a 4 day and then back to a 3 or 2 day the idea is to change up every so often(6-12 weeks). it all works you just cant let your body adapt to whats going on

Willdebeast · 02-11-2004, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brak86
Hey u all. I used to hear: "as long as u give each muscle a full day of rest, ure ok. You can lift the same muscles...just make sure its not on consecutive days"

Now from what i see u all sayin: "give atleast 72 hours for each muscle to rest."

I see a lot of u do one muscle a week. Some of u all that do this seem to be HUGE...but i dont undersatnd...it feels like that is too little for each muscle,....how do ure muscles grow bigger if u work each out ONCE a week?! I mean i do each muscle twice a week and give them two days a week (for example, chest, tris and shoulders on monday then thursday). Im so confused. DO u all that do the one-muscle-a-week thing train till failure or somethin? do u all just train that one muscle till that muscle feels like it cant do anythin else afterwards?

sorry i meant to quote
if you are a beginner you might want to try a two day split upper- lower or push-pull 3x a week and once you reach a more of an intermediate level of fitness perhaps you could break it down to a 3 day split. hitting muscles less often but a lot harder. from there go to a 4 day and then back to a 3 or 2 day the idea is to change up every so often(6-12 weeks). it all works you just cant let your body adapt to whats going on

squanto · 02-11-2004, 09:28 PM

id at least switch up the exercises im doing as much as possible, but still do ones that hit the same muscles... maybe think about changing the routine in a couple months, but if you change the exercises enough you shouldnt need to for a while.

**CowPimp** · 02-11-2004, 11:55 PM

If working out your muscles multiple times per week works for you, then good. Once a week works very well for me so far, but everyone is different. If you start noticing yourself hitting a plateau, then you might want to try switching to the 1day per week method.

02-11-2004, 06:53 PM	#1
Brak86 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 230	Still dont understand! :( Hey u all. I used to hear: "as long as u give each muscle a full day of rest, ure ok. You can lift the same muscles...just make sure its not on consecutive days" Now from what i see u all sayin: "give atleast 72 hours for each muscle to rest." I see a lot of u do one muscle a week. Some of u all that do this seem to be HUGE...but i dont undersatnd...it feels like that is too little for each muscle,....how do ure muscles grow bigger if u work each out ONCE a week?! I mean i do each muscle twice a week and give them two days a week (for example, chest, tris and shoulders on monday then thursday). Im so confused. DO u all that do the one-muscle-a-week thing train till failure or somethin? do u all just train that one muscle till that muscle feels like it cant do anythin else afterwards?
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02-11-2004, 07:00 PM	#2
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	It all depends, what works for one doens´t work for other .. I do each muscle group only one time per week and sometimes it is not enough.
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02-11-2004, 07:03 PM	#3
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	When I was younger I ALWAYS trained 1 muscle to failure 1 day a week. I got nice and strong, and pretty decent size. Now I have moved to more advanced routine.
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02-11-2004, 07:13 PM	#5
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	What is what?
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02-11-2004, 07:15 PM	#6
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	The advanced training method.
	FURtherness

02-11-2004, 07:19 PM	#7
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	Right now it is: Mon: on Tues: on Wed: on Thur: off Fri: on Sat: on Sun: off And the workouts are: Legs Chest/Shoulders/Tris Back/Rhomboids/Bis So each week the workout will be on a different day because the split is designed to give 72hrs rest per muscle group.
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02-11-2004, 07:38 PM	#8
Vieope Monochromatic Bunny Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: drinking coffee.. Posts: 14,817 Photos: 10	I give it one week or more of rest because IMO catabolism doesn´t occur that fast if the caloric intake is correct.
	FURtherness

02-11-2004, 07:45 PM	#9
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,325	I too think it has to do with the individual, although their are some good studies that show as long as you dont train to failure, your ready to go in 48 hours or so. My training split is as such: Mon: Chest/Tri's/Abs (Hypertrophy, not to failure) Tue: Back/Shoulders/Bi's (Hypertrophy, not to failure) Wed: Legs (Hypertrophy, not to failure) Thur: Off Fri: Upper Body, including deadlifts (Strength, to failure) Sat: Lower Body (Strength, to failure) Somtimes I do a cycle. 3days hypertrophy/off/3 days hypertrophy/off/2days strength/off/off Repeat.
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02-11-2004, 08:02 PM	#10
Brak86 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 230	camaro...im sure ure split is awesome...but the reason why i do chest tris and shoulders on same day lkike premier is doin...is cause i think some chest exercises work the shoulders as a secondary workout...so after u do chest on monday...then u do shoudlers on tues....isnt that bad? i have no clue!! ahh! ahaha...enlighten mee
Brak86 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 230	Good, bad, im the guy with the gun-Army of Darkness Weight:147 pounds DB Incline Press: Repping 70 lbs in each hand. Standing curls: Repping 60 lbs (thats all i remember for now!)

02-11-2004, 08:07 PM	#11
Brak86 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 230	also............curretnly im doin monday tues thurs fri....with three muscles on monday and thurs....and the other three tues and fri.....and im getting stronger with this routine...should iw ait till i stop getting gains till i switch and stop doin this routine?
Brak86 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 230	Good, bad, im the guy with the gun-Army of Darkness Weight:147 pounds DB Incline Press: Repping 70 lbs in each hand. Standing curls: Repping 60 lbs (thats all i remember for now!)

02-11-2004, 08:11 PM	#12
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,055 Photos: 2	I change my routine every 12-16 weeks.
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02-11-2004, 08:30 PM	#13
Willdebeast Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: canada Posts: 125	Hey u all. I used to hear: "as long as u give each muscle a full day of rest, ure ok. You can lift the same muscles...just make sure its not on consecutive days" Now from what i see u all sayin: "give atleast 72 hours for each muscle to rest." I see a lot of u do one muscle a week. Some of u all that do this seem to be HUGE...but i dont undersatnd...it feels like that is too little for each muscle,....how do ure muscles grow bigger if u work each out ONCE a week?! I mean i do each muscle twice a week and give them two days a week (for example, chest, tris and shoulders on monday then thursday). Im so confused. DO u all that do the one-muscle-a-week thing train till failure or somethin? do u all just train that one muscle till that muscle feels like it cant do anythin else afterwards? if you are a beginner you might want to try a two day split upper- lower or push-pull 3x a week and once you reach a more of an intermediate level of fitness perhaps you could break it down to a 3 day split. hitting muscles less often but a lot harder. from there go to a 4 day and then back to a 3 or 2 day the idea is to change up every so often(6-12 weeks). it all works you just cant let your body adapt to whats going on

02-11-2004, 09:28 PM	#15
squanto Fitness Celebrity Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cheese Cottage Posts: 1,461	id at least switch up the exercises im doing as much as possible, but still do ones that hit the same muscles... maybe think about changing the routine in a couple months, but if you change the exercises enough you shouldnt need to for a while.

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