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PreMier · 02-19-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Flex
If Ronnie trained for it, i believe he could be one of the, if not THE strongest man in the world and break all the powerlifting records.

i'd say he's got more endurance than powerlifters anyhow, cuz they lift for POWER (heavy weight, low reps.....NO endurance), hence powerlifters. Meanwhile Ronnie has plenty of endurance.
you want endurance? Ronnie can bench 250 75x.

Again, this is not powerlifters. This is WSM. Its the Met-Rx challenge called Worlds Strongest Man. They do many many different competitions. Its not just who is strongest at one thing, its everything.

Flex · 02-19-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
There are a lot of guys in the Met-Rx WSM who are MUCH larger than RC. Not to mention World Harris is HUGE. He may be thicker than RC, but I have never seen a side by side.

Also I wasnt just incorporating the world of BB. What about that guy Trevor. He reps 700Lbs on incline. Maybe Mudge will chime in here and post a pic of him.

Well bro, much larger than Ronnie? ya, but can they stand next to him onstage? NO.

And this freakin guy Trevor again. ya, he's a beast, i'm not taking anything away from him. But has he ever stepped on a stage? i dont think so... (and if he did, Ronnie would still be MR. O)

Flex · 02-19-2004, 05:05 PM

about my "much larger than Ronnie" comment above....i meant to answer NO. i dont their are guys out there that can stand next to Ronnie and make him look small, no way in hell.

There may be a FEW WSM competitors that may be bigger, but they carry on them prob. 20-30% bf, while Ronnie is solid/veiny/striated muscle.....
Lb for Lb i believe Ronnie has the most muscle mass on any human ever.

PreMier · 02-19-2004, 05:11 PM

Well, some of the WSM are 6'5" and well over 350Lbs. RC is not going to be a monster next to them. However RC is definately one of, if not the greatest Olympian ever. Im just saying he is not the biggest and strongest man alive.

myCATpowerlifts · 02-19-2004, 05:22 PM

ronnie could be just like that puwiski or whatever guy
He could be so strong if he did p/l workouts instead of BBing

HoldDaMayo · 02-19-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
Well, some of the WSM are 6'5" and well over 350Lbs. RC is not going to be a monster next to them. However RC is definately one of, if not the greatest Olympian ever. Im just saying he is not the biggest and strongest man alive.

Premier... i love ya man... but i got to give you shit for this statement...

"I'm just saying he's not the biggest strongest man alive"

C'mon bro... who can say this? Has anyone EVER been able to say this? Of course not...

A: Being the biggest AND the strongest are two COMPLETELY different things...

B: There is no forum for a competition like this...

C: Who weighs out what kind of strength is more important than others...

Ronnie Coleman is one of the most impressive strength/body builders to come along...

And I would bet a paycheck or two he would do just fine in those ironman competitions... I guess it comes down to which profession makes more money...

Hmm... not a tough decision there...

PreMier · 02-19-2004, 05:46 PM

This is brought on by that damn plucking thread isnt it

I will be sure to re-read what I type before I post so as it cant be disected

HoldDaMayo · 02-19-2004, 06:42 PM

what can i say... i have issues...

Flex · 02-19-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
Well, some of the WSM are 6'5" and well over 350Lbs.

....w/like 20-30%bf.

Ronnie was 287lb SHREDDED last yr.

DanK · 02-19-2004, 09:35 PM

I was watching a few of the videos... and then I noticed a video for karen sizemore? she's putting up more weight than I am, but she also looks like she's 2 seconds away from dying of a heart attack, brings me to the ultimate strength vs looks type of question... who's more unhealthy, power lifters or body builders... I'm leaning towards body builders being 'healthier' during an average day, but on competition days, with the diuretics and all, the power lifters might have the edge despite their excess body fat...

myCATpowerlifts · 02-19-2004, 09:48 PM

explain to me what diuretics are real quick i forgot(or maybe i never knew lol)

Yea i will def be inbetween

My ultimate goal is to stay at around 10 percent bf all year around and just get stronger from there without gaining and more bf (well not any, of course ill gain some but you know what i mean)

PreMier · 02-19-2004, 09:51 PM

http://www.gwu.edu/~cade/diuretics.html

Ralphie · 02-19-2004, 09:53 PM

Hold on so is everyone saying that Ronnie is the biggest AND strongest man alive?

I don't care if anyone *thinks* he could be the strongest man alive etc..

I don't doubt the fact that Ronnie is a monster (one fucking ugly monster btw) however, is Ronnie actually STRONGER than powerlifters?

I just don't know how that can be.. Ronnie trains for size.. and to look shreeded and freaky.. these guys train so that they can lift as much as possible.. pure strength.. They have to be stronger right?

PreMier · 02-19-2004, 09:55 PM

Ralphie I think you missed this post.

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Originally posted by HoldDaMayo

"I'm just saying he's not the biggest strongest man alive"

C'mon bro... who can say this? Has anyone EVER been able to say this? Of course not...

A: Being the biggest AND the strongest are two COMPLETELY different things...

B: There is no forum for a competition like this...

C: Who weighs out what kind of strength is more important than others...

Ronnie Coleman is one of the most impressive strength/body builders to come along...

And I would bet a paycheck or two he would do just fine in those ironman competitions... I guess it comes down to which profession makes more money...

Hmm... not a tough decision there...

Ralphie · 02-19-2004, 10:25 PM

No, I didn't miss that post.....

and in terms of pure bigness, there are lots of guys bigger than ROnnie, but we are assuming with low b/f%

haha anyways

No, but some people are trying to say that Ronnie is stronger than some of the best powerlifters out there.. he is no doubt bigger and more shredded... but he is not *stronger*

I doubt Ronnie could break a world bench press record.. I mean given his current training schedule at least.. perhaps he could if he trained for it.. perhaps not..

And when it was stated they incorporate endurance into the competition I don't think the person meant endurance as in reps.. but more like picking up a big friggan stone ball and moving it 100 feet and then placing it on a stool or elevated something.

Flex · 02-20-2004, 11:11 AM

If Ronnie trained for it, he could be one of the strongest men alive.
Regarding muscle, he is the biggest man alive, and ^^could be the strongest as well IMO....

**Mudge** · 02-20-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Ralphie
I doubt Ronnie could break a world bench press record.. I mean given his current training schedule at least.. perhaps he could if he trained for it.. perhaps not..

If he is good for a true 730 shirtless he is already amongst the worlds strongest by a large margin. Nobody has benched into the 8s without a shirt.

Ronnie does not hit 400s in the offseason, so I say Trevor is bigger, but he is also 2 inches or so taller.

**Mudge** · 02-20-2004, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by myCATpowerlifts
dang...i wonder how much he could do on flat bench max
its gotta be at least 600 something

Well into the 700s, shirtless, even Kovacs has been there already as is Trevor Smith (who does not compete currently).

Ralphie · 02-20-2004, 04:05 PM

Yeah, I'm not disputing the fact that ROnnie is a GOD in terms of muscle or size or strength or anything, but all I am saying is that right now he is NOT the strongest man alive. I'm only saying this because some people were saying that he was.. which I don't believe can be true.

Ronnie *could* prolly be the strongest man alive if he wanted to be.

Wow, that is insane.. 200lb dumbells in each hand... so does anyone know for a fact what his max bench is? I mean the last recorded statistic or anything? I don't know if he publishes this or anything.

IronSlingah · 02-20-2004, 06:39 PM

Jesus this guy could rape two fully grown men at the same time.

myCATpowerlifts · 02-20-2004, 07:25 PM

^lol yea

But what I wonder is if he can run good with his legs the size they are??

Trap-isaurus · 02-22-2004, 03:32 PM

Crazy...

Trap-isaurus · 02-22-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by IronSlingah
Jesus this guy could rape two fully grown men at the same time.

Thats what I think every time I go to the gym...."Lightweight!!!".... "Raping grown men!!!! yeah baby!!!"

what....Im kidding, quit looking at me like that!!!!

Chad Cena III · 02-22-2004, 03:44 PM

Compared to all the other guys in this past Olympia, Ronnie is by far the strongest of them all. Light weight !!!

Trump · 02-22-2004, 05:15 PM

I wached a few of those movies

those powerlifters look like the fat guy Tony who lives down the street from me and is a couch potato

QuestionGuy · 02-22-2004, 06:59 PM

oh my god that scary dude, i cant beleive that

myCATpowerlifts · 02-22-2004, 07:16 PM

i want to see more ronnie vids now!

"light weight!"

Oh and once that dumbass trevor guy loses weight for a competition...he'll be smaller than most people think
And I Kovacs is supposed to be much bigger than ronnie...isnt he like 330 at 10% bf or something

Testosterone · 02-22-2004, 07:17 PM

Somebody should ask ronnie coleman to compete in Olympics (Atleast in Clean and Jerk)!
We'll soon see how much medals he can take away to his home!

02-19-2004, 05:05 PM	#33
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	about my "much larger than Ronnie" comment above....i meant to answer NO. i dont their are guys out there that can stand next to Ronnie and make him look small, no way in hell. There may be a FEW WSM competitors that may be bigger, but they carry on them prob. 20-30% bf, while Ronnie is solid/veiny/striated muscle..... Lb for Lb i believe Ronnie has the most muscle mass on any human ever.
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

02-19-2004, 05:11 PM	#34
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,300 Photos: 2	Well, some of the WSM are 6'5" and well over 350Lbs. RC is not going to be a monster next to them. However RC is definately one of, if not the greatest Olympian ever. Im just saying he is not the biggest and strongest man alive.
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02-19-2004, 05:46 PM	#37
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,300 Photos: 2	This is brought on by that damn plucking thread isnt it I will be sure to re-read what I type before I post so as it cant be disected
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02-19-2004, 09:51 PM	#42
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02-19-2004, 05:22 PM	#35
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	ronnie could be just like that puwiski or whatever guy He could be so strong if he did p/l workouts instead of BBing

02-19-2004, 09:35 PM	#40
DanK Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 196	I was watching a few of the videos... and then I noticed a video for karen sizemore? she's putting up more weight than I am, but she also looks like she's 2 seconds away from dying of a heart attack, brings me to the ultimate strength vs looks type of question... who's more unhealthy, power lifters or body builders... I'm leaning towards body builders being 'healthier' during an average day, but on competition days, with the diuretics and all, the power lifters might have the edge despite their excess body fat...

02-19-2004, 09:48 PM	#41
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	explain to me what diuretics are real quick i forgot(or maybe i never knew lol) Yea i will def be inbetween My ultimate goal is to stay at around 10 percent bf all year around and just get stronger from there without gaining and more bf (well not any, of course ill gain some but you know what i mean)

02-19-2004, 09:53 PM	#43
Ralphie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston,TX U.S. Posts: 83	Hold on so is everyone saying that Ronnie is the biggest AND strongest man alive? I don't care if anyone thinks he could be the strongest man alive etc.. I don't doubt the fact that Ronnie is a monster (one fucking ugly monster btw) however, is Ronnie actually STRONGER than powerlifters? I just don't know how that can be.. Ronnie trains for size.. and to look shreeded and freaky.. these guys train so that they can lift as much as possible.. pure strength.. They have to be stronger right?

02-19-2004, 10:25 PM	#45
Ralphie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston,TX U.S. Posts: 83	No, I didn't miss that post..... and in terms of pure bigness, there are lots of guys bigger than ROnnie, but we are assuming with low b/f% haha anyways No, but some people are trying to say that Ronnie is stronger than some of the best powerlifters out there.. he is no doubt bigger and more shredded... but he is not stronger I doubt Ronnie could break a world bench press record.. I mean given his current training schedule at least.. perhaps he could if he trained for it.. perhaps not.. And when it was stated they incorporate endurance into the competition I don't think the person meant endurance as in reps.. but more like picking up a big friggan stone ball and moving it 100 feet and then placing it on a stool or elevated something.

02-20-2004, 11:11 AM	#46
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	If Ronnie trained for it, he could be one of the strongest men alive. Regarding muscle, he is the biggest man alive, and ^^could be the strongest as well IMO....
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

02-20-2004, 04:05 PM	#49
Ralphie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston,TX U.S. Posts: 83	Yeah, I'm not disputing the fact that ROnnie is a GOD in terms of muscle or size or strength or anything, but all I am saying is that right now he is NOT the strongest man alive. I'm only saying this because some people were saying that he was.. which I don't believe can be true. Ronnie could prolly be the strongest man alive if he wanted to be. Wow, that is insane.. 200lb dumbells in each hand... so does anyone know for a fact what his max bench is? I mean the last recorded statistic or anything? I don't know if he publishes this or anything.

02-20-2004, 06:39 PM	#50
IronSlingah Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 306	Jesus this guy could rape two fully grown men at the same time.

02-20-2004, 07:25 PM	#51
myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	^lol yea But what I wonder is if he can run good with his legs the size they are??

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02-22-2004, 03:44 PM	#54
Chad Cena III Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 68	Compared to all the other guys in this past Olympia, Ronnie is by far the strongest of them all. Light weight !!!
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myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	i want to see more ronnie vids now! "light weight!" Oh and once that dumbass trevor guy loses weight for a competition...he'll be smaller than most people think And I Kovacs is supposed to be much bigger than ronnie...isnt he like 330 at 10% bf or something

02-22-2004, 07:17 PM	#58
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