Thread: Ultimate Chest Shock...

Originally posted by Vieope
Biomechanics ... altering the plane of motion.. something like that is the answer for why you need to change exercises.

Why do you need to change exercises if weight is the only thing you adapt too?

Originally posted by P-funk
By changing the angle of the bench (ie flat, decline, incline) you are altering the plane of motion you are working in.....flat=transverse, incline=trans-frontal, decline=trans=sagital.

By changing the plane of motion you are working in you are changing the musculature slightly and the muscles which are the prime movers.....examples would be in the flat bench the pectorallis major in the prime mover (transverse plane). For the incline your stress is shiftes slighlty to the anterior delts (more so than in the flat bench). Decline, becasue it is in the trans-sagital plane is recruiting more of the latisimus dorsi and teres major as your shoulder joint is moving in more of an adduction fashion.

Most bodybuilders switch around between the three becasue the THINK they are targeting certain areas. However, most bodybuilders no very little about biomechanics.

It is however important for us to switch around and not stay with one bench becasue it is imprortant to be strong in all planes of motion to balance out the muscles around the joint and create better joint stabalization.


I hope that helped.

peace,
patrick

Originally posted by Vieope

Err... do you understand what he's saying there? He's not saying the various planes of motion 'shock' the chest, he's saying they help to build the various stabilizer and secondary muscles that support the lift.

As P says himself, doing incline and decline both work the same damn muscle. You can't build one part of your pec and not the other.

Originally posted by Monolith
Err... do you understand what he's saying there? He's not saying the various planes of motion 'shock' the chest, he's saying they help to build the various stabilizer and secondary muscles that support the lift.

As P says himself, doing incline and decline both work the same damn muscle. You can't build one part of your pec and not the other.

Yeah I know ... I think that you don´t understand what we are debating here.

They are saying that dropsets are good and I am saying the opposite.

Originally posted by Vieope
Yeah I know ... I think that you don´t understand what we are debating here.

They are saying that dropsets are good and I am saying the opposite.

Ok... so how does that quote help you then? It doesnt even mention dropsets.

Read the whole thread.

This is my best thread ever yay!

Try this.....
flat d/bell flyes 1x50(warmup)
3 triple drop sets 12-10-8 try to use same weight & get same reps each drop set.
Then a couple of sets of close grip bench press,not fully locking out or hitting the chest.
OUCH!!!!!!

dips
flat bench
DB flys
pec deck

Originally posted by bigleebull
3 triple drop sets 12-10-8 try to use same weight & get same reps each drop set.
OUCH!!!!!!

are you saying all on a flat bench, all with dumb bells or a bar?

Any Machine, Weight, Dumbbell, Barbell, Pushups, Dips. Whatever you can do to shock the hell out of your chest. Basically a large number of supersets, dropsets, heavy weights, partial reps, negitives, forced reps in one workout - Under a halfhour in time. Just a ridicouls accumulation of movements to get the chest tore up, and the blood flowing.

I am completely changing my routine i did chest on friday and tore them up pretty bad (thanks to some encouragement form here) and plan to do chest om monday from now on (due to not being able to hold my self up during some "activities" last night and other factors, if the pain goes away by tomorrow, which i think it will, do you think its ok to do them.
Thanks