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Old 11-09-2001, 09:25 AM   #91
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Zone...all of the quality MRP's and protein powders on the market have made it so easy to meet our needs for high protein intake. A single shake can contain 35-50 grams at a shot. Besides, people must understand that eating BIG is a very necessary part of the BB equation...training hard alone won't do it!

2001...I can't argue with your results as you look great in your pic,however, I have found that low carb diets have been the most successful plan for myself and for 9 out of 10 of my clientele. Of course exact amounts are tailored to the individual, but on the whole I have found through years of experimentation that these diets retain more muscle and burn more fat than any other plan



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ALBOB, nice to see another 39 year old on this board.



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Well I'd have to disagree about the low carb thing. Sure its the quickest way to get lean but you certainly are not going to be able to build muscle on a low carb diet. Just retain what you have.
But you are not going to build anything unless you have all 3 type bricks in your house. Protein. Carbs. Fat.
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What is the ideal break down again...% Protein, % Carbs and %Fat using a 3000 calorie diet

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Game 2001....I use a low carb diet year around...about 100 grams per day offseason...and I have built more lean mass each year. 2 years ago i was about 220 at 10% BF...this year I am about 242 at 10 % BF.

Not saying what you do doesn't work cause you look great. Also, not saying that my diet is ideal for everyone, just that you should not dismiss it by saying it won't work to add mass because it does for me and many of my clients...



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you gained 22 pounds of lean muscle in one year on a low carb diet?
What gear are you taking?
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you gained 22 pounds of lean muscle in one year on a low carb diet?
What gear are you taking?
Rather than arguing with him, or accusing him of taking roids, why don't you answer the question that w8lifter2 asked you?

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What is the ideal break down again...% Protein, % Carbs and %Fat using a 3000 calorie diet



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Whoa prince, not arguing just asking what hes taking to gain that type size in a year. You can't do that on a low carb diet. You can lean up like heck but gain 20 pounds of muscle?

Not arguing, just curious what hes taking.

But to answer w8lifter.
I go about 40/40/20 or 35/45/20

You know I rarely count calories or grams or stuff like that, I do watch the fat I take in and make sure its good fat either from flax or nuts or salmon.
But I make sure I take in complex carbs each meal except last meal of day, get about 250-300 grams of protein a day each day and eat clean. Basically eating clean keeps me lean. If I lower my carbs that low, then how do you ever carb deplete for a show and how do you keep your muscles fromlooking anything other than flat as a pancake........

Lastly, why does everyone always think someones arguing with them on these boards just for having a different opinion. I was just asking gopro how he did that at such a low carb intake without taking gear?

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to further clarify I have no problem with someone taking gear either.
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you gained 22 pounds of lean muscle in one year on a low carb diet?
What gear are you taking?
He said 2 years/ 11 pounds per year or less then one pound per month. I'm not into BBing as much as you two but that doesn't sound to outrageous to me.


hey gopro,

could I get a sample of that diet you have your clients on. my stats are a couple pages back. I'd love to add about 5-7lbs of lean mass by next June.

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Rather than arguing with him, or accusing him of taking roids, why don't you answer the question that w8lifter2 asked you?
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Now I see you built 22 pounds in 2 years but still, HOW?
How many calories a day did you take in? And really don't know how you build size without carbs. Not doubting you but i've been lifting and competing 23 years and have never seen anyone able to do that.
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Sorry, "argue" was a strong word...

I was just implying that answering w8lifter's question would be more productive than debating gopro's diet, and whether he takes steroids.

If I remember correctly gopro has already stated that he is all natural, and competes in the NABA. (did I get that right gopro?)



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hey gopro, how long have you been training?



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Zone...I have been training for 15 years.

The diet I have my clients on are tailored to each individual according to their goals (mass gain, weight loss, strength, etc.), and their age, gender, training age, time to commit to training/cardio, lifestyle, etc.

The basics are high protein...up tp 2 g per lb of weight...low carbs...usually between 1/3-1g per lb of weight( unless i am training an athlete that simply needs bodyweight or a younger person with a furnace for a metabolism)...and medium to high fats, coming mostly from EFA's.

If you want to send me a private message with all your info I can tailor a diet for you.

Game 2001...I am a natural for life bodybuilder and I compete in the INBF. I should have a good shot at my pro card this year so I can move to the WNBF.

So, I did not achieve my gains with gear. I simply redoubled my efforts, evaluating everything I do in terms of training, recovery, supplements, diet, etc. The result was about 20 lbs in 2 years. You can gain mass without many carbs. Perhaps that would not work for you and your type of metabolism ( or maybe it would ), but it has worked wonders for me!



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e-mail me at bowermant@anad.army.mil

can see my pics at bowermant@anad.army.mil
be interested to see what your ideas are.
also like to send you pics of a friend of mine that recently competed in natural show in atlanta.
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