Some Lifts Going Up, Some Stagnating

**CowPimp** · 03-09-2004, 12:42 AM

Does anyone ever have a problem with certain lifts targeting the same body part improving and other ones staying the same or going down slightly?

For example, my dumbell benchpress has gone up steadily over the past few weeks. However, my incline barbell press felt worst today compared to last week. I did get the same number of reps as the previous week, but the last rep was closer to total failure than before. As well, my decline flys stayed about the same. They felt a little more solid, but the number of reps remained the same.

Does this happen to anyone else? I feel like it's because I do dumbell benchpress first, and maybe I just got closer to failure this week and my successive lifts suffered slightly as a result. As well, I have really been trying to concentrate on excellent form and mind muscle connection this week, but I didn't think it would affect anything.

I'm going to wait another week until I decide whether I think I need to change my routine again, (Even though I just changed it about 4 weeks ago) or possibly take a week off a few weeks earlier than planned.

**firestorm** · 03-09-2004, 01:19 AM

Well I can say this much, what your going though is normal expecially when you stay with the same routine week after week and not changing the order of your main movements such as flat and incline bench. I for example will do flat db bench week 1 followed by Inclines and the next workout I'll do Inclines 1st and flats second. The other problem could be that your going heavy week after week. I'd suggest changing your rep range weekly example week one training very heavy to the point your in the 4 to 6 range and the following workout lighten up so your doing 6-8 reps.
The best gains I've gotten have been from following GOPROS Power/ Rep Range/ Shock program. You may want to give that a try. I can show you in my journal that week after week my poundages and size have gone up consistently since November 1st following that program. If you care to see it, it is located at the top of the training board.

**BlueCorsair** · 03-09-2004, 01:21 AM

As an ecto, I know well the frustration of stagnation, so I can say, yes, this must happen to other people.

While perhaps this isn't the best thing to say on a board like this, I sincerely believe everyone has limits. Some times you just can't do any better.

That being said, I doubt many people here have hit their limits. Diet, a "routine" routine, and lack of rest seem to be the most popular reasons for lifts hitting a plateau.

I know for a fact that my biceps are tiny little things that just don't get any stronger. I also know that my mililtary press has gone from An EZ-bar and a 25 pound plate on each side to a full barbell and a 45 pound plate on each side. For me, that's progress!

Shake things up. More calories, new routine, or take a week or two off. Those are the things people keep pummeling me with. None seem to be working, but until I manage to eat 4,000,000,000 calories per day, develop a training program that'd make everyone here hail me as the second coming of Arnold, and learn how to cram 26 hours of sleep into a 24 hour day, I can't and won't give up myself.

Keep it going, hopefully you'll have more luck than I do

**firestorm** · 03-09-2004, 01:22 AM

here is the link. click on each bodypart that Scotty the body posted. His is the 2nd post in the thread.
Gopro Workouts

**CowPimp** · 03-09-2004, 03:43 PM

I have been changing my routine frequently. Although I haven't changed it in the last few weeks... I like to keep it the same for a little bit so I can track progress, but I may have to make a change if I don't see progress in another week or two on those lifts.

I am definitely not an ectomorph. I'm not massive, but I am by no means small. I was naturally very strong and kind of bulky when I first hit puberty.

Also, I have checked out GoPro's routine. I don't think I am advanced enough for that yet. I haven't even been lifting a year (Although I lifted briefly years ago, so my "muscle memory" probably makes me slightly more advanced than someone else at my training age). I don't use shock week, but I do a variation of his routine. I switch between the 3-6 and 7-10 ranges every few weeks.

I like the idea of switching up the order of the lifts. I think I am going to start rotating the order every session. Next time I will do incline press first. Most of my lifts are progressing well, so I will put priority on the ones that are not progressing as rapidly. Thanks for your input guys.

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