Thread: Has anybody tried this?....

My honest opinion is I think that guy is a complete joke.

If all I ate was 4oz of protein per meal I would lose muscle. Now if you're a 100lb female that might be sufficient.

See...that's exactly what I was thinking. Loss of muscle. The rule of thumb is that protein intake is calculated upon your body weight (1.0-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight). He doesn't take any body weight into account if you're wanting to build muscle. Take note though... he calls his plan body "sculpting" not body building. You're right though, Prince...I'm kinda skeptical about his protein amounts and that is the same for everybody no matter what the body type is. Even if you want to get a low % of bodyfat, and look toned, you can't loose muscle or else you'll look like a smaller version of what you were. Aren't I correct?

Although he swears that you can build muscle. He just tells you to incorporate some red meat into a few of your meals in place of the usual turkey, chicken or fish. Here is an example of what I would be eating on his plan...


Breakfast:
4 egg whites, 1 cup oatmeal, and 1/2 apple or bannana

Mid morning :
4 oz chicken or turkey and small potatoor 4 oz turkey breast and 1-2 cups of greens.

Lunch:
4 oz. chicken breast, 1 cup rice, and 1-2 cups mixed veggies

Mid-Afternoon snack:
4 oz. chicken and 1 small apple or 4 oz. fresh tuna and 1-2 cups of greens.

Dinner:
4 oz. chicken, med. potato and 1-2 cups veggies or 4 oz lean turkey breast and 2 cups of greens.

PM Snack (optional he says)
1/2 cup mixed berries or 1 grapefruit, or a poached pear with cinnamon and cloves.

The meats are interchangeable. Can have chicken, fish or turkey breast. Although most on the cards are chicken breast. This is his Meso-endo body type diet for any male with a Meso-Endo figure.

4oz of chicken is about 35g of protein... works out to ~210g/day not counting protein from other foods. Seems decent enough...

Although, that said, most of these "guru's" are just trying to sell books. That idea is pretty well reinforced with this "power band" resistance training crap.

Originally posted by Monolith
4oz of chicken is about 35g of protein... works out to ~210g/day not counting protein from other foods. Seems decent enough...

isn't that relative?

I think diet is harder to devise than proper training regimine. Your digestive system, metabolism, gender, and muscle mass all play a large roll in what you need to eat. You have to know what foods your body responds well to, and how much food you need to eat to gain mass. I have to eat more food than that wimpy meal plan that he has designed. I'm 19 years old and very active; needless to say, my metabolism is somewhat ridiculous.

For breakfast this morning I had 8 egg whites with a couple slices of cheese melted in, a bowl of cereal with 2% milk (Probably 1.5 servings worth or so), and about 3 cups of oats with some applesauce mixed in.

Another thing that diet doesn't take into account is post and pre workout meals. After a workout I try to take down about 100 grams of protein. I would ventue to say that your post workout meal is the most important meal of the day for lifters. As well, taking in some carbs and protein before a workout is very important.

Originally posted by CowPimp


3 cups of oats

damn thats a lot of oats in one sitting.......ooof

3 uncooked cups is 6 servings, that is definitely a lot. When you cook it though that would only be about 2 servings.

Originally posted by Prince
isn't that relative?

It also means the rest of a persons calories have to come from carbs/fats, which will be limiting to many.

i eat the oats, but can't stand em. i am ready to gag at the end of one serving. i don't even want to think about 6.

and the nutrition facts are based on uncooked?

wow, that is a lot of frigg'n oats!!!

I have 3/4 cup oats (uncooked/dry) every morning, cooked with 3/4 cup milk.

Originally posted by Nuclear Blast
only allowed 4 oz of protein at a meal

4oz of protein is 113g, that is a LOT of protein. Does he suggest that by meal or by day ?

you vieope what super magical protein source you chowin down 4 oz. is usually arounf 30-35 grams

Originally posted by aztecwolf
you vieope what super magical protein source you chowin down 4 oz. is usually arounf 30-35 grams

4oz of protein is 113 g of protein, 4oz of CHICKEN is about 23g of protein. See what I mean ?

Originally posted by Nuclear Blast
My wife just purchased Michael Thurmonds 6 week body makeover plan for herself. Apparantely, from what I've heard and seen, it works. Michael used to be a bodybuilder at one time and is a personal trainer. He now patented and sells his body makeover kit. The diet is exactly like a bodybuilders diet and is based upon what type of body type you have and how you would like to see yourself in 6 weeks. I looked at the plan and you're basically sculptng your body by working out with resistance bands that are included and eating 6 meals a day. You know what you have to eat according to meal plan that's devised for you, and that plan is on a card that you can follow or take with you if need be. I looked at this and most people are only allowed 4 oz of protein at a meal (and he swears you can build muscle). What do you guys think of this? Micheal Thurmond is also the trainer you may have seen on the "Extreme Makeover" show.

well you know it depends on what her goal is ? she may not want to increase muscle mass ? and only "tone" (I hate that word personally) the bod ????

Also she won't build much muscle just working out with the resistance bands with or without the 4oz protein?

Yeah, I don't know. Could all be a hoax, but I know you can loose weight though, becuase she's been on the program for about 1 week now and already lost 6 pounds. Right now, her only concern is about loosing weight. Now, I on the other hand, started using Prince's male cutting plan. I started out at 204 pounds at 5'9" and now I'm down to 187 while loosing body fat and still maintained the muscle that I had. Now, I have also been doing 45 min of cardio 2-3 times a week and hitting the weights minimally (Plan to join a gym and get into serious bodybuilding soon). But you gotta start somewhere right? And I've been on this diet for about a month and a half now. Now, I just need to really hit all my body parts with some serious weights and start growing more muscle. Also, I can't wait till I acheive that tight and rock hard look. Anybody know about how long that may take? Remember, I'm a newbie here!

I can tell you one thing, I'm getting friggin tired of being in the kitchen cooking and preparing meals. Seems like I spend more thime in the kitchen than working out HEHEHE. Although I try to keep my weight training to no more than 1 hour and work out each body part once per week.