who can diagnose shoulder pain

SJ69 · 03-21-2004, 05:25 PM

I think I hurt it doing forced reps on incline bench. The pain is near the insertion point of my medial or anterior delt and doesn't constantly hurt. If I rise my arm all the way up that's when I usually feel the pain, like if I was doing side lateral rises and went all the way up. It also hurts on my warm up set of bench (135) but I can do a couple reps at 285 relativley pain free?

It also hurts sometimes when doing heavy curls (curls?)or sleeping on my right side especially if my arm is up above my head. Today I waxed my car and couldn't use my right arm due to shoulder pain. It seems to hurt most (usually) when full extended or fully contracted but not usually anywhere in beteween.
I'm not a puss, and can work through the pain, the concern I have is causing perm. damage. I took 10 days off and since then have been lifting at about 50% intensity trying to maintain but loosing. I don't want to take a month off (or more) and loose everything I worked so hard for.
The pain doesn't seem "deep" enough to be cartlidge problems but who knows?
I'm hoping it's only tendon irratation and will pass. I'm planning a super supplement cycle starting in may and don't want to hold back, just want to go HARD CORE.
Any ideas?

**P-funk** · 03-21-2004, 05:28 PM

Here is my diagnosis:

GO TO A SPECIALIST!!!!

You may have done some real damage. Or you may just have over worked or over stressed tendons in your shoulder. But it is better to have the MRI tell you what is up then to have any of us guess.

In the mean time. Rest and Ice!

SJ69 · 03-21-2004, 05:32 PM

Good advise P-Funk, my doc is just such a pain in the ass I dred going there and waiting hours in the damn waiting room, then if I need a referal (which I would) it's never ready and have to come back. I just have to deal with the pain in the ass aspect of it though and find out for sure. Plus, I think i'd be a little embarrased if he said "the MRI says there's nothing wrong with you" and then I'd have to wait forever just to hear that from him.

**P-funk** · 03-21-2004, 05:46 PM

I would try and seek out a sports medecince doctor or some sort of specialist because most doctors don't deal with things like this. There is nothing t be embarrased about the MRI coming back okay. That is something to be happy about.

Jezziah · 03-21-2004, 06:13 PM

If you're that unsure go see a doctor that's your best bet. If it is tendon related it can take a long time to go away. As far a causing further damage you & a physician are the only ones that can gauge that.

http://www.orthogate.com

JerseyDevil · 03-21-2004, 06:26 PM

I'm no expert SJ, so take it for what's its worth, BUT. I had almost this EXACT same injury just a few months ago, just ask Bandaidwoman cuz I PM'ed her about it.

In my case, it took awhile to figure out but it appeared to be caused by doing heavy barbell inclines, probably with too wide of a grip. The pain was mainly at night, and like you said on regular flat bench only the warm up sets bothered me.

Here is what I did. ICE, ICE, ICE. Three times a day for 20-30 minutes. Most importantly right after your workout, even if no pain is apparent. Completely drop barbell incline, and do LIGHT DB inclines presses instead, gradually going heavier.

For me, once I started doing barbell inclines again (about three-four weeks later), I narrowed up my grip and only went light. Within a couple of weeks I was back up to my normal poundages.

firestorm · 03-22-2004, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
Here is my diagnosis:

GO TO A SPECIALIST!!!!

You may have done some real damage. Or you may just have over worked or over stressed tendons in your shoulder. But it is better to have the MRI tell you what is up then to have any of us guess.

In the mean time. Rest and Ice!

READ NO FURTHER...THIS POST IS ALL YOU NEED TO SEE. Nobody here can tell you exactly what you may have done. We can only assume. I assume some sort of rotator cuff injury but as far as the extent of the damage it is near impossible to determine with only words. You should not hesitate to get an MRI. Trust me on this one. I injured my shoulder last winter and was never prescribed an MRI by my doc. Instead he sent me to Physical Therapy which did nothing but antagonize it more. In my case,, I forced my way through doing shrugs and some specialized rotator cuff excercises and as of November have been able to train once again but I'm still not pain free. Some days it hurts like hell while others it feels fine. Do it right and get the MRI.

bandaidwoman · 03-22-2004, 04:27 AM

Everyone here is right. It's real hard diagnosing a problem on line. It sounds like it is either a rotator cuff injury, acromioclavicluar joint injury or bicepital or some form of deltoid tendonitis. In the future, if you don't want to go to your doc for a referral (sounds like your doc isn't into sports medicine...remember, a doc doesn't have to be an orthopod to be good at it) make sure you enroll in a PPO instead of an HMO plan. (ask your human resources) The nice thing is , you can go to any specialist without seeing your primary care doc to get a referral, as long as they are in network. (Most specialists will be anyway, even if they are not in the HMO plan). This will give you alot more freedom. Our employees pay 16 dollars out of their paycheck a month to get it (the $450.00 / month is provided by the employer completely) so for a mere $16.00 a month, these employees get alot more freedom. Ask your employer.

alexvega · 06-01-2005, 01:38 PM

if ur pain is so much. look a orthopedic or trauma specialist.
don´t leave that the pain stay away from gim
sorry my spell english
im not american.

Triple Threat · 06-01-2005, 01:58 PM

Psst, Alex. The original post is over a year old.

AirCartman · 06-01-2005, 07:58 PM

I wonder what happened.

**Dale Mabry** · 06-01-2005, 08:01 PM

He died of Chlamydia, very tragic.

Triple Threat · 06-02-2005, 07:45 AM

03-21-2004, 05:25 PM	#1
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	who can diagnose shoulder pain I think I hurt it doing forced reps on incline bench. The pain is near the insertion point of my medial or anterior delt and doesn't constantly hurt. If I rise my arm all the way up that's when I usually feel the pain, like if I was doing side lateral rises and went all the way up. It also hurts on my warm up set of bench (135) but I can do a couple reps at 285 relativley pain free? It also hurts sometimes when doing heavy curls (curls?)or sleeping on my right side especially if my arm is up above my head. Today I waxed my car and couldn't use my right arm due to shoulder pain. It seems to hurt most (usually) when full extended or fully contracted but not usually anywhere in beteween. I'm not a puss, and can work through the pain, the concern I have is causing perm. damage. I took 10 days off and since then have been lifting at about 50% intensity trying to maintain but loosing. I don't want to take a month off (or more) and loose everything I worked so hard for. The pain doesn't seem "deep" enough to be cartlidge problems but who knows? I'm hoping it's only tendon irratation and will pass. I'm planning a super supplement cycle starting in may and don't want to hold back, just want to go HARD CORE. Any ideas?

03-21-2004, 05:28 PM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,377	Here is my diagnosis: GO TO A SPECIALIST!!!! You may have done some real damage. Or you may just have over worked or over stressed tendons in your shoulder. But it is better to have the MRI tell you what is up then to have any of us guess. In the mean time. Rest and Ice!
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03-21-2004, 05:46 PM	#4
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,377	I would try and seek out a sports medecince doctor or some sort of specialist because most doctors don't deal with things like this. There is nothing t be embarrased about the MRI coming back okay. That is something to be happy about.
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03-21-2004, 06:13 PM	#5
Jezziah Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 168	If you're that unsure go see a doctor that's your best bet. If it is tendon related it can take a long time to go away. As far a causing further damage you & a physician are the only ones that can gauge that. http://www.orthogate.com
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03-22-2004, 04:27 AM	#8
bandaidwoman inadvertant tree hugger Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 601 Photos: 4	Everyone here is right. It's real hard diagnosing a problem on line. It sounds like it is either a rotator cuff injury, acromioclavicluar joint injury or bicepital or some form of deltoid tendonitis. In the future, if you don't want to go to your doc for a referral (sounds like your doc isn't into sports medicine...remember, a doc doesn't have to be an orthopod to be good at it) make sure you enroll in a PPO instead of an HMO plan. (ask your human resources) The nice thing is , you can go to any specialist without seeing your primary care doc to get a referral, as long as they are in network. (Most specialists will be anyway, even if they are not in the HMO plan). This will give you alot more freedom. Our employees pay 16 dollars out of their paycheck a month to get it (the $450.00 / month is provided by the employer completely) so for a mere $16.00 a month, these employees get alot more freedom. Ask your employer.
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03-21-2004, 05:32 PM	#3
SJ69 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 1,023 Photos: 1	Good advise P-Funk, my doc is just such a pain in the ass I dred going there and waiting hours in the damn waiting room, then if I need a referal (which I would) it's never ready and have to come back. I just have to deal with the pain in the ass aspect of it though and find out for sure. Plus, I think i'd be a little embarrased if he said "the MRI says there's nothing wrong with you" and then I'd have to wait forever just to hear that from him.

03-21-2004, 06:26 PM	#6
JerseyDevil GO Buckeyes! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern, NJ Posts: 5,180	I'm no expert SJ, so take it for what's its worth, BUT. I had almost this EXACT same injury just a few months ago, just ask Bandaidwoman cuz I PM'ed her about it. In my case, it took awhile to figure out but it appeared to be caused by doing heavy barbell inclines, probably with too wide of a grip. The pain was mainly at night, and like you said on regular flat bench only the warm up sets bothered me. Here is what I did. ICE, ICE, ICE. Three times a day for 20-30 minutes. Most importantly right after your workout, even if no pain is apparent. Completely drop barbell incline, and do LIGHT DB inclines presses instead, gradually going heavier. For me, once I started doing barbell inclines again (about three-four weeks later), I narrowed up my grip and only went light. Within a couple of weeks I was back up to my normal poundages.

06-01-2005, 01:38 PM	#9
alexvega simpsom Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: costaRica Posts: 1,128 Photos: 21	if ur pain is so much. look a orthopedic or trauma specialist. don´t leave that the pain stay away from gim sorry my spell english im not american.

06-01-2005, 01:58 PM	#10
Triple Threat ... Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 9,412 Photos: 4	Psst, Alex. The original post is over a year old.

06-01-2005, 07:58 PM	#11
AirCartman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 162	I wonder what happened.

06-01-2005, 08:01 PM	#12
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