soreness

Hanz29 · 03-23-2004, 09:52 PM

I usually work out pretty intensely, and so I get real sore- except in my shoulders

I used to do drop sets and eventually the soreness stopped.....am I still making progress if I'm not sore?

I'm currently doing military presses, lateral raises, upright rows, and front-side raises- my reps vary 8-12 and I'll usually do 3-4 sets of each

I'll usually be sore during the workouts- feels like my arms are going to fall off- but I'm not sore anytime after......

Am I still going to make progress? How can I change my workout?

Phred · 03-23-2004, 11:15 PM

I am sure you are making progress. Are you gaining strength along the way?

I get soreness in my shoulders (mostly the anterior head) on my last exersice (upright rows). I sometimes have to rest my arms up on the bench to take the tension off the muscle. Otherwise, just letting them hang down at my side there is some pain. Not really during the exercise but after the set and for some time after I exercise. Maybe 30 minutes or so. However, unlike my biceps or my legs, I do not seem to be sore the following day. I once read an article in a muscle rag that the shoulders can take quite a bit of abuse (exercise wise), like the legs before they fatiuge (sp). My traps will get sore after a good session of dead lifts (I pause at the top for a second or two). Since soreness is related to lactic acid buildup, maybe the deltoids have a better blood flow helping to flush the lactic acid. Do not know, just a thought.

**Prince** · 03-23-2004, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hanz29
I usually work out pretty intensely, and so I get real sore- except in my shoulders

I used to do drop sets and eventually the soreness stopped.....am I still making progress if I'm not sore?

I'm currently doing military presses, lateral raises, upright rows, and front-side raises- my reps vary 8-12 and I'll usually do 3-4 sets of each

I'll usually be sore during the workouts- feels like my arms are going to fall off- but I'm not sore anytime after......

Am I still going to make progress? How can I change my workout?

do not measure the effectiveness of your work-outs by soreness.

I try and get a bodypart sore once ever 2-3 work-outs.

Hanz29 · 03-23-2004, 11:29 PM

I read another post a couple minutes ago and I think I'm going to try something that I haven't done since high school----I don't know what they're called, but I'm going to focus on the negative part of the contraction and slow it down.

Hopefully it will shock the crap out of my shoulders....I'm also going to focus on redeveloping my mind-muscle with the deltoids

Thanks for the input

once was fat · 03-23-2004, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hanz29
I read another post a couple minutes ago and I think I'm going to try something that I haven't done since high school----I don't know what they're called, but I'm going to focus on the negative part of the contraction and slow it down.

Hopefully it will shock the crap out of my shoulders....I'm also going to focus on redeveloping my mind-muscle with the deltoids

Thanks for the input

Great idea

jadakris31 · 03-24-2004, 07:10 AM

is it ok to train the muscle if its still sore .. about 4 days later... not with huge volume...

**P-funk** · 03-24-2004, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by jadakris31
is it ok to train the muscle if its still sore .. about 4 days later... not with huge volume...

depends on two things.....the amount of soreness and the intensity level you are using for the second workout.

jadakris31 · 03-24-2004, 07:20 AM

well what i am worried about is my chest and tris.. yesterday i did heavy power training.... 3 sets of 3 flat bench .. 2 sets of 4 incline dumbells... 2 sets of 6 incline flyes --- 2 sets of bench dips and 2 sets of skull crushers...

i have scheluded my next chest tri workout for saturday (tuesdays and saturdays).... which will be the same amount of sets.. but at a higher rep range.... ( i consider all my workouts to be intense)

ill make sure to stretch a few times a day ... anything else i could be doing?

**P-funk** · 03-24-2004, 07:24 AM

Why did you do that much volume if you are training everything twice a week? Did you read my journal? If you need help understanding what I am talking abouot then ask.

defention of intensity- amount of preceved effort in relation to your 1 rep maximum. ie your 6 rep max is 85% of your 1RM and your 15 rep max is 62.5% of your 1RM.

Vieope · 03-24-2004, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by Hanz29
..am I still making progress if I'm not sore?

Yes

03-23-2004, 09:52 PM	#1
Hanz29 on my way to ISSA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 376	soreness I usually work out pretty intensely, and so I get real sore- except in my shoulders I used to do drop sets and eventually the soreness stopped.....am I still making progress if I'm not sore? I'm currently doing military presses, lateral raises, upright rows, and front-side raises- my reps vary 8-12 and I'll usually do 3-4 sets of each I'll usually be sore during the workouts- feels like my arms are going to fall off- but I'm not sore anytime after...... Am I still going to make progress? How can I change my workout?
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03-23-2004, 11:15 PM	#2
Phred On a journey....... Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Back in Sacramento, CA again Posts: 672 Photos: 4	I am sure you are making progress. Are you gaining strength along the way? I get soreness in my shoulders (mostly the anterior head) on my last exersice (upright rows). I sometimes have to rest my arms up on the bench to take the tension off the muscle. Otherwise, just letting them hang down at my side there is some pain. Not really during the exercise but after the set and for some time after I exercise. Maybe 30 minutes or so. However, unlike my biceps or my legs, I do not seem to be sore the following day. I once read an article in a muscle rag that the shoulders can take quite a bit of abuse (exercise wise), like the legs before they fatiuge (sp). My traps will get sore after a good session of dead lifts (I pause at the top for a second or two). Since soreness is related to lactic acid buildup, maybe the deltoids have a better blood flow helping to flush the lactic acid. Do not know, just a thought.
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03-23-2004, 11:29 PM	#4
Hanz29 on my way to ISSA Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 376	I read another post a couple minutes ago and I think I'm going to try something that I haven't done since high school----I don't know what they're called, but I'm going to focus on the negative part of the contraction and slow it down. Hopefully it will shock the crap out of my shoulders....I'm also going to focus on redeveloping my mind-muscle with the deltoids Thanks for the input
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03-24-2004, 07:24 AM	#9
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,426	Why did you do that much volume if you are training everything twice a week? Did you read my journal? If you need help understanding what I am talking abouot then ask. defention of intensity- amount of preceved effort in relation to your 1 rep maximum. ie your 6 rep max is 85% of your 1RM and your 15 rep max is 62.5% of your 1RM.
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03-24-2004, 07:10 AM	#6
jadakris31 jersey's here Join Date: May 2003 Location: nj Posts: 390 Photos: 1	is it ok to train the muscle if its still sore .. about 4 days later... not with huge volume...

03-24-2004, 07:20 AM	#8
jadakris31 jersey's here Join Date: May 2003 Location: nj Posts: 390 Photos: 1	well what i am worried about is my chest and tris.. yesterday i did heavy power training.... 3 sets of 3 flat bench .. 2 sets of 4 incline dumbells... 2 sets of 6 incline flyes --- 2 sets of bench dips and 2 sets of skull crushers... i have scheluded my next chest tri workout for saturday (tuesdays and saturdays).... which will be the same amount of sets.. but at a higher rep range.... ( i consider all my workouts to be intense) ill make sure to stretch a few times a day ... anything else i could be doing?