John H.

Spitfire. How old ARE you? Reread my original post which started this thread. How does that "scar(e) the shit out of us..."? Now a person CAN develop a scary body - one that is so damn good even he could pass out in disbelief - what's wrong with having a body that well developed? I simply said that IF a person focuses on the basics and stays with it and all aspects and perserveres he can not help but gain Muscle - GUARANTEED. The quality and size, etc. will depend on how much he is willing to put into the effort, his program, nutrition, rest, etc. Being honest about that and all aspects of it GUARANTEES MUSCLE.

How do you think I am "...weirding us out..."? That makes no sense at all. To say that actually sounds juvenile.

I stand by what I have said.

John H.

Spitfire

Im 12.5 almost 13, whats your point.

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myCATpowerlifts

lol

j.h.ater

[quote]Originally posted by John H.
"My chest Muscles will be remembered and will the rest of my body. "


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

what a joke!

sure; we'll remember what your pecs look like and then we'll find you with your shirt off, and then chase you around calling you names!

give me (and the rest of us) a break. give up already, dude.

once was fat

This guy john h is really confused. Reminds me of one of those kids from children of the corn. Malakai

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camarosuper6

I have to say, these three pages of thread get my Official

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Mudge

By volume yes, making a 6'1" 193 pound guy pretty darn small. I am way over that number and not that big.

Now 5'7" 205 @ 7% bodyfat on the other hand looks pretty darn good, not yet huge still.

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CowPimp

Alright, first of all there is a very slim chance that I, or anyone else on this board, will ever see you in real life. Second of all, there is a very slim chance that if I were to sight you then you wouldn't have your shirt on. Finally, there is absolutely no chance that I would remember your chest. How can you possibly tell yourself that I would recognize some guy's chest that I saw a picture of on the Internet. Finally, I have had plenty of people be hateful towards me for various reasons. Granted, I don't have experience with persecution for being homosexual, but everyone has had their share of problems concerning people's opinions about them.

Your second paragraph is a completely off-topic rant that makes no sense.

What does my age have to do with anything? In what way have I not conducted myself as an adult? I simply think that you are being completely unreasonable. I would approximate the chance of seeing your picture on the Internet and then randomly running into you in real life without your shirt on and recognizing your body to about 1 in a billion. The chance is virtually zero.

I could really care less if you post pictures of yourself or not. I just wanted to understand why you wouldn't do it, because some people do seem to care. You obviously have no good reason. The only reason why is because your view of reality is completely warped and you can't stay on topic. You keep babbling about how homosexualism is natural and variety is the spice of life, etc. What does that have to do with anything?

You boggle my mind with your insane ranting.

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Lol.

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Spitfire

^^LOL^^

Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. Abraham Lincoln

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hunter S. Thompson RIP

John H.

Spitfire. If you are speaking to me... If you are referring to the size of your Biceps at this measurement they could be very good if they are also representative of the rest of your body and you are well built. Size is not the only way to determine if a Man is well-built. You can (meaning anyone here) can have Biceps that measure 12.5 almost 13 and be damn good for your size overall.

The point of my creating this thread was to encourage all Men to DO their very best and stay with it and that your Muscle IS GUARANTEED if you pay close attention to the basics and perservere.

Where all the hatefulness from some posting here is coming from given the original topic leads me to believe there are some childish people here - those that are not grown up and adult and willing to discuss as a Man.

If you want to listen to what I have to say, fine. If not, fine. But what I said originally is absolutely the truth. I was addressing those that might be thinking they will not get what they want - I am saying THEY WILL IF they STAY WITH IT intelligently and perservere. GUARANTEED MUSCLE. It WILL happen!

John H.

maddog1

Ok, so your name is not John and your not from Meadeville Pa. What else isn't true? How can people believe anything you say? I'll save you the trouble - "I have to protect me and my family and I can definitely do that for SURE."
You came onto a bodybuilding forum and have used it to propogate your abherrent sexual views. The only thing you have done is solidify other's positions against it. When you hear people say you are "weirding" them out, you are doing just this.
"But maddog, I just want you to have an open mind and be open and receptive to all positions and all natural ways of living."
People for the most part are highly educated and have had college and grad school (and school of life) courses in world religion, human sexuality, etc. and have already decided which ones they choose to follow. It seems you are wasting your time here and that of others. Why don't you find a religous or sexual forum where you can present your ideas.

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John H.

Cow. My reasons for not posting a photograph of myself I have stated. I made that statement by way of an explanation for those that are discussing as an adult.

The second paragraph was in answer to a comment / question posed to me as to why I was not posting a photo of myself. I can post a photo of someone who is an honest representative of me since I have been asked to post a photo and I explained why it was not a photo of me. Whether you care or not is not material. I was offering this as a way of those that wanted to know truthfully to have some idea.

As to me asking your age, given the reply you have made I felt it necessary to ask - you sound as if you are younger and not necessarily willing to have a discussion as an adult. You say you wanted to understand why I would not post a photo of myself - I answered that question as an adult. I know what I am talking about and my reasons. If it was just me and no one else would be affected I would post my photos - I know what I have done to accomplish my goals. Those that know me personally know as well. The photos I posted were actually chosen by a couple of Men who know me and they said to me that I certainly looked very much like these men - thus I borrowed these photos based on their unbiased opinions. I have asked others showing them the photos and they have also agreed. I did not even know about these photos myself, they were brought to my attention by others who know me. Also, I am not a person that goes around bragging necessarily or feel I am so "special".

The reason I spoke about the variations that do exist in Sexuality - Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality is because they are all a very natural part of life and living whether you, I or anyone else agree or not. Read this book which gives scientific information about the naturalness: BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin´s Press).

I am completely in touch with the way things ARE. I can most definitely defend myself but I am not willing that my family and friends have to experience the b. s. that exists in this world. Some of those that have commented here on this thread for example are proof of their immaturity and total lack of any understanding about life and living.

John H.

John H.

Mad. Those are the only things that are not true - for obvious reasons. I am not the only person to not truly give their name and location. (Meadville does not have an "e" after the "d" in Meadville). Everything else is absolutely true. You can choose to believe it or not. I could not care less.

I came to this site to discuss as an adult - all things including Bodybuilding.

You mention that people "for the most part are highly educated and have had college and grad school..." - I know of some who have had these things and I am not impressed with what they actually learned or accomplished at all. In fact I have talked with many who are Professors at well-known colleges (I speak to all kinds of people) and they tell me many times how they are very upset that many who go to college go there just to take up space and never really honestly want to learn and are there to just party. They also state that many are there because their parents paid for them to be there but that they are not there to actually learn. Talking with some and listening to comments made by some I can believe that is absolutely true. Not everyone is in college to¨"take up space" and "just party" but it sure looks as if far too many are. I personally have learned from all points of life and living and will. I consider all things and all that is said.

How is it that you feel you can tell me what I can and can not say and when? Have you served in war for this country and earned your way? I have. Honorably.

John H.

maddog1

Yes, I have 5 confirmed kills and then served as a cop later (I have posted pics that confirm this) - to answer your question not that it matters and I don't see what the point of that is. Also, I paid my way through college and grad school and made a point of never missing a class.
I'm am suggesting a forum that would be more on topic for you and didn't say that I could "tell (you) what (you) can and can not say and when"
You are welcome to continue to present your views here, but with each post, you only solidify my feelings on your positions.
I'll be out for awhile, but you are welcome to continue the discussion with others.

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Spitfire

FIRST of all you ask me my AGE dip shit! NOT my BICEPT dize

SECOND Why the FUCK do you keep referring to EVERYONE as 'MEN', whats you PROBLEM with womem?

AND the LAST thing I will EVER type to you

GET A LIFE 'MAN'

Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. Abraham Lincoln

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hunter S. Thompson RIP

Mudge

If the guy doesn't want to, or has no means to post his own pictures big deal.

Now on the other hand he could have taken other peoples pictures and said they were his own, I have known of two people on the boards who have been caught doing this, pretty stupid.

Spitfire

This whole threads pretty stupid, funny, but stupid.

Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. Abraham Lincoln

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hunter S. Thompson RIP

kvyd

12.5-13 is a very small bicep hah

kvyd

john h your a little weird

myCATpowerlifts

He just repeats everything he says
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....etc, you get the picture.

Im starting to really wonder about him...
what if hes not really a person?

What i think is that he made up a lie a long time ago on this board
and now he tried to defend himself in anyway possible....

Sorry John H.
but you really are just a complete weirdo

TriZZle305

Where are you from? i dont think the "old school" is enough explanation for your odd way of relaying your thoughts.... are you the leader of a muscle cult?

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maniclion

Obviously he's fishing for hot gay bodybuilder guy's who live in PA. You guy's haven't caught onto this? He only talks about how nice men with muscles look and how being gay is natural.

TriZZle305

am i the only one who thinks this is funny? i laugh everytime i read one of John. H's posts... call me childish if you want to.. im only 16 anyway..

maybe this guy has a wierd sense of humor and is gettin a kick out of rewriting the same arguements about bisexuality and worshiping "pure muscle" his perfect chest to get on everybody's nerves

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John H.

Maddog. Please re-read my original post which started this thread and the subsequent posts others made in their effort to derail the topic. What I said IS TRUE AND VERY ACCURATE. It was made in an effort to encourage those that might think they "will not get there" - THEY WILL IF THEY STICK WITH IT and FOLLOW THE BASICS. That was and is the point to my making this thread. It is GUARANTEED as long as a person is WILLING to earn and work for their goals truthfully.

John H.