Guaranteed Muscle

John H. · 04-10-2004, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by TriZZle305
Where are you from? i dont think the "old school" is enough explanation for your odd way of relaying your thoughts.... are you the leader of a muscle cult?

TriZZle305. Please RE-READ the original post I made on this thread. It applies to those who ARE SINCERELY INTERESTED in BUILDING their bodies but may be questioning whether they will get there or not and to those who are still on the fence about Bodybuilding in general. What I said IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Now if you do not care to read it, don't. If you are not interested sincerely in Bodybuilding why are you here?

John H.

John H. · 04-10-2004, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by maniclion
Obviously he's fishing for hot gay bodybuilder guy's who live in PA. You guy's haven't caught onto this? He only talks about how nice men with muscles look and how being gay is natural.

Maniclion. NOTHING could be FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. I don't have to "go fishing" for anything!

As for being "Gay" - or "straight" or "inbetween" (Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual) ALL ARE completely natural and part of the variety that EXISTS in ALL things in LIFE AND LIVING.

John H.

John H. · 04-10-2004, 08:00 AM

Please re-read my original post I started this thread with. That IS MY POINT. John H.

TriZZle305 · 04-10-2004, 10:44 AM

How do you measure muscle quality and purity? what units are they measured in?

**CowPimp** · 04-10-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by John H.
Cow. My reasons for not posting a photograph of myself I have stated. I made that statement by way of an explanation for those that are discussing as an adult.

The second paragraph was in answer to a comment / question posed to me as to why I was not posting a photo of myself. I can post a photo of someone who is an honest representative of me since I have been asked to post a photo and I explained why it was not a photo of me. Whether you care or not is not material. I was offering this as a way of those that wanted to know truthfully to have some idea.

As to me asking your age, given the reply you have made I felt it necessary to ask - you sound as if you are younger and not necessarily willing to have a discussion as an adult. You say you wanted to understand why I would not post a photo of myself - I answered that question as an adult. I know what I am talking about and my reasons. If it was just me and no one else would be affected I would post my photos - I know what I have done to accomplish my goals. Those that know me personally know as well. The photos I posted were actually chosen by a couple of Men who know me and they said to me that I certainly looked very much like these men - thus I borrowed these photos based on their unbiased opinions. I have asked others showing them the photos and they have also agreed. I did not even know about these photos myself, they were brought to my attention by others who know me. Also, I am not a person that goes around bragging necessarily or feel I am so "special".

The reason I spoke about the variations that do exist in Sexuality - Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality is because they are all a very natural part of life and living whether you, I or anyone else agree or not. Read this book which gives scientific information about the naturalness: BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin´s Press).

I am completely in touch with the way things ARE. I can most definitely defend myself but I am not willing that my family and friends have to experience the b. s. that exists in this world. Some of those that have commented here on this thread for example are proof of their immaturity and total lack of any understanding about life and living.

John H.

I responded to your questions as an adult as well. Just because I threw some humor into my post to reduce the level of hostility that you may or may not preceive from me does not invalidate my response.

Also, you did provide me with an explanation as to why you didn't want to post your pictures. However, I retorted with reasons why I thought that was nonsense. You're reasoning for not posting your pictures is to prevent something that is virtually impossible.

I'm done with this thread. Your posts are reminiscent of a drunk person. You repeat the same mantra over and over and refuse to directly address what people are saying in response to you.

Peace and love.

TriZZle305 · 04-11-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by John H.
TriZZle305. Please RE-READ the original post I made on this thread. It applies to those who ARE SINCERELY INTERESTED in BUILDING their bodies but may be questioning whether they will get there or not and to those who are still on the fence about Bodybuilding in general. What I said IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Now if you do not care to read it, don't. If you are not interested sincerely in Bodybuilding why are you here?

John H.

(MAN talk)If you could stay focused on one topic at a time youd know that I did not challenge the validity of your original post, i simply questioned the diction you use to present your ideas... i find it abnormal, (16 yr old talk)and i belive most will agree that ur just a weirdo.. why do you capitalize certain words... why do you continue to argue over nothing? if you think its funny just say so... ill agree with you on that

John H. · 04-12-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by CowPimp
I responded to your questions as an adult as well. Just because I threw some humor into my post to reduce the level of hostility that you may or may not preceive from me does not invalidate my response.

Also, you did provide me with an explanation as to why you didn't want to post your pictures. However, I retorted with reasons why I thought that was nonsense. You're reasoning for not posting your pictures is to prevent something that is virtually impossible.

I'm done with this thread. Your posts are reminiscent of a drunk person. You repeat the same mantra over and over and refuse to directly address what people are saying in response to you.

Peace and love.

Cow. Me? A "drunk person"? You sign off your message "Peace and love" - do you know that those words really mean?

As for my reasons I gave them and I have said why I would not post photos of myself. They are very valid reasons. If you do not agree with them that is entirely up to you but it is my decision based on the information I have at hand and my experiences and what I have seen, known, heard, etc. My family and my friends do not need b. s. coming from some "religious types" who SAY they know all about love and kindness and God and Christ , etc. but ARE the most hateful and bigoted people I have ever come in contact with.

I did address your questions directly. Re-read them, perhaps you will understand then after having done so carefully. Whether you agree or not with my decision is moot. I have made it and as it effects me or those I care about.

As to your humor, I saw none. Maybe you were being sarcastic? Or even hostile? That is how I took what YOU were saying. That is what you wrote.

John H.

John H. · 04-12-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by TriZZle305
(MAN talk)If you could stay focused on one topic at a time youd know that I did not challenge the validity of your original post, i simply questioned the diction you use to present your ideas... i find it abnormal, (16 yr old talk)and i belive most will agree that ur just a weirdo.. why do you capitalize certain words... why do you continue to argue over nothing? if you think its funny just say so... ill agree with you on that

TriZZle305. Re-read my original post. If it applies to you fine, if not fine. Capitalization is for emphasis. As for staying on a topic, I do. I also respond to what people write and how.

Arguing? Not me. What I originally posted is absolutely true. Ther is nothing to argue about.

How old are you?

John H.

camarosuper6 · 04-12-2004, 12:24 PM

Honestly this thread isnt going anywhere. If you dont like what John H. writes, then dont read it. He isnt doing anything wrong. If you find it strange, then feel free to not look.

myCATpowerlifts · 04-12-2004, 12:40 PM

lol
In response to your questions

I am 10.7
and trizzle is prolly 2.5

TriZZle305 · 04-12-2004, 02:09 PM

no im not quite 2.5

im a BABY not a MAN

cmf85ro · 04-13-2004, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by camarosuper6
Honestly this thread isnt going anywhere. If you dont like what John H. writes, then dont read it. He isnt doing anything wrong. If you find it strange, then feel free to not look.

Agreed!

Although I'm afraid of starting all this again, I just couldn't resist, so I'd like to say that... ummm... A pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of bricks.

You didn't expect this one did you? :P

The explanation comes from Archimedes law and the apparent weight thingie... So, if you weigh a pound of feathers and one of bricks, what you are actually measuring is their apparent weight, in air. Normally, a pound of feathers has a much greater volume than one of brick and thus, due to Archimede's law, a greater force corresponds to it, acting opposite to its weight.

Hope you're still following this...

So, if Ga(feather)=Ga(brick) and Fa(feather)>Fa(brick) and Ga=G-Fa => G(feather)>G(brick), where Ga=apparent weight, G=weight, Fa=Archimedic force.

Go figure!

god hand · 12-19-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

The very best way to achieve the Muscle you WANT is to stick with it. It WILL come FOR SURE as long as you stay focused, make sure you get the proper nutrition, rest, and DO the exercises concentrating on what you are doing. Communicate with each muscle as you are doing them. Become aware of your body while you do each exercise telling it what you want and listening too to what your body tells you. Remember too that just because you may think you are tired does not always mean that you need to rest. You may just want to rachet it up more because demands you make are one of the factors in muscle growth.

If you REALLY want Muscle you must honestly work for it but the rewards are WELL WORTH THE EFFORT and in the end it is really NOT as hard as you may sometimes think. The end result is entirely based on the honest effort you put into it. You WILL get so much more than you realize if you will only BE honest.

Men with REAL Muscle work for it and they GET what they work for. Observe Men you know that HAVE total muscle everywhere and see for yourself how they EARN it. NOTHING in life that is WORTH IT and is damn good necessarily comes "easily" but when you do get involved you find it is not always as hard as you think it may be.

Consistency - stay with it! It WILL HAPPEN! Be smart about it! Learn!

Take Care, John H.

GAY

fletcher6490 · 12-19-2005, 08:00 PM

CowPimp

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Alright, first of all there is a very slim chance that I, or anyone else on this board, will ever see you in real life.

maddog1

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Ok, so your name is not John and your not from Meadeville Pa. What else isn't true? How can people believe anything you say? I'll save you the trouble - "I have to protect me and my family and I can definitely do that for SURE."

Shit, i'm actually from Meadville, PA.

I remember seeing a post of his a long time ago, and seeing that he was from Meadville. I asked him a few questions and said I was also from Meadville and he sent me a couple PM's talking about damn near this same shit.

This all seem's kinda weird. I wish I could figure out who this guy is cause Meadville is not all that big.

Luckily I live in Illinois now.

shiznit2169 · 12-19-2005, 08:51 PM

god hand

stop bringing back old posts and calling people "gay". Grow up will you?

poloblue22 · 12-19-2005, 10:14 PM

I can't believe I actually read this whole thread.

nmuriqi · 12-21-2005, 12:27 PM

Hey John H. What are you still doing here? I thought i told you to go fuck your mother!!!! Gettouttaaheeaaarr!

fletcher6490 · 12-21-2005, 05:15 PM

Oh shit...I didn't realize this thread is from 2004.

Is that John H. guy still around.

Here is one of the PM's he sent me...Man is this guy weird.

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Originally Posted by fletcher6490
hey man, i'm from meadville also. what's your last name?

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PM from John H.
Hi Fletcher,

Because I am a BiSexual Man and I do not know people personally I never give that information out until I KNOW the person and they me - for the protection of my friends and my family (I myself can take care of myself). I hope you understand the reasons for that honestly!

I like people - Human Beings - Male and Female! To me a person's Sexual Orientation has absolutely NOTHING to do with CARING HONESTLY about another unless someone is interested in procreation only - there is MUCH MORE to relationships and friendships that are honest then just Sex but when it comes to a mutual agreement and each is of age and ability of consent I feel being intimate with those you care about is important - Male and Female. I am not sure if you were aware of my Sexuality so I thought I should be very upfront about it so you will not be at all upset for any reason... Remember too, God HIMSELF and Christ HIMSELF (I stress HIMSELF!)NEVER (I stress NEVER!!) AT ANY TIME said one word against BiSexuality and Homosexuality - they are NATURAL VARIATIONS just as with anything else in life - there is VARIETY IN ALL THINGS!!! These forms of Sexuality are just as natural and right as is Heterosexuality. And EACH DO EXIST and ALWAYS HAVE in Nature and the Natural World - each has their reasons and purposes...

Based on the photo that accompanies your area I MUST TELL YOU that you ARE EXTREMELY WELL BUILT - BEAUTIFULLY SO (Yes REAL MEN are also "beautiful" just as anything else that is in life TRULY!!) and I am DAMN GLAD FOR YOU Fletcher!!! You have EARNED what you HAVE HONESTLY!! PLEASE, NO mater what you may think of me personally I hope you will ALWAYS CONTINUE in your efforts in Bodybuilding - It IS TRULY the most important gift a Man can give himself - and those that CARE HONESTLY about him!!! And it IS your FOUNDATION for all things in life and in living!!!

I sincerely hope I have not upset you in any way but I feel being totally honest with people is very important. Let me know your thinking on this no matter how you think - I respect people's HONEST thoughts!!

Thanks for writing - I hope sincerely everything is "ok" between you and me. Let me know, OK?

Take Care, John H.

I'm not trying to diss the guy but he seems like some sort of internet stalker and shit.

god hand · 12-21-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

god hand

stop bringing back old posts and calling people "gay". Grow up will you?

NO NO AND I'LL THINK ABOUT IT!

stcottar · 12-22-2005, 07:40 AM

A pound of BULLSHIT= a pound of stupid posts!

John H. · 12-22-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by god hand

GAY

Hi God Hand,

What I said applies to ALL MEN who WANT TRUTHFULLY the BEST HEALTH they can possibly have - by EARNING IT HONESTLY AND WITH CONVICTION AND DEDICATION AND PURPOSE. It does NOT matter what the Man's Sexual Orientation is - ANY MAN - Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual CAN BE THEIR VERY BEST - GUARANTEED - IF they will HONESTLY WORK FOR IT!!! It IS THE ONE THING THAT YOU WILL ACHIEVE if you HONESTLY WORK FOR IT!!!

Work HARD for yours and SEE for yourself!!!! GUARANTEED!!!! And let other Men APPRECIATE HONESTLY what YOU have EARNED and you BOTH will see - and UNDERSTAND - HONESTLY!!!!

Take Care, John H.

John H. · 12-22-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fletcher6490

CowPimp

maddog1

Shit, i'm actually from Meadville, PA.

I remember seeing a post of his a long time ago, and seeing that he was from Meadville. I asked him a few questions and said I was also from Meadville and he sent me a couple PM's talking about damn near this same shit.

This all seem's kinda weird. I wish I could figure out who this guy is cause Meadville is not all that big.

Luckily I live in Illinois now.

Hi Fletcher,

What I wrote to you through a PM (in answer to you asking me questions) is what I would say to ANY MAN - because I believe in being totally HONEST with people.

You HAVE ACHIEVED TREMENDOUSLY and I hope - regardless of any personal hatred and bigotry you may have towards others or to me - NEVER STOP - BECAUSE you HAVE TREMENDOUS ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL!!!

While working out HONESTLY stop and look at yourself in the mirror - when you can pass out in disbelief at what YOU SEE (YOURSELF) BECAUSE of what YOU HAVE ACHIEVED - and WORKED DAMN HARD FOR - imagine then how others will see you as well - and REMEMBER along with the PURE AND TOTAL MUSCLE you WILL HAVE you will also HAVE the TOTAL HEALTH that goes along with it - and I am willing to bet HAPPINESS as well!!! NOTHING is a GREATER GIFT a MAN can give himself then HIS TOTAL HEALTH in EVERY FIBER of his being!!!! Regardless of how you may feel about me personally I SINCERELY HOPE you will take my words to heart and GO FOR IT FOR YOURSELF - you will then KNOW what I am talking about FOR YOURSELF!!!

I, I, WISH YOU THE VERY BEST - ALWAYS - because I KNOW you can DO IT - HONESTLY!!!! BE YOUR VERY BEST Buddy!!!! It IS GUARANTEED - if you will only pursue it FAITHFULLY!!!!

If you wish to hate me just because I am a BiSexual Man that is your choice but you will STILL HAVE what I, I, HOPE FOR YOU!!!!

I hope someday you will take the time to honestly understand variety in all things in life - including Sexuality among Human Beings. IT IS COMPLETELY NATURAL. Do some honest research and see for yourself. I am not lying to you at all.

Take Care, HONESTLY AND SINCERELY... You have BEAUTIFUL FURTHER!! POTENTIAL,

I AM NOT your enemy - EVER!!!

John H.

John H. · 12-22-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nmuriqi

Hey John H. What are you still doing here? I thought i told you to go fuck your mother!!!! Gettouttaaheeaaarr!

Hi Nmuriqi,

Haven't heard from ya for awhile...

How's your workouts going? STAY WITH IT - YOU WILL SEE for yourself!!!

YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL!!!! You have done REAL WELL for yourself - why stop now? KEEP GOING!!!

BE DAMN HAPPY!!!!!

Take Care, John H.

**Prince** · 12-22-2005, 11:22 AM

you continue to say "if you work out honestly", what does that mean? versus working out dishonestly?

John H. · 12-22-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fletcher6490

Oh shit...I didn't realize this thread is from 2004.

Is that John H. guy still around.

Here is one of the PM's he sent me...Man is this guy weird.

I'm not trying to diss the guy but he seems like some sort of internet stalker and shit.

Hi Fletcher,

"...internet stalker..." - NOT AT ALL - NEVER!!!

I was only trying to talk to you MAN TO MAN and WISHING YOU THE VERY BEST FOR YOURSELF. I thought you would WANT ME to be TOTALLY HONEST with you UP FRONT is all.

Regardless of how you feel about me personally, I HOPE you WILL ALWAYS STAY WITH WORKING OUT - by now you MUST HAVE some idea that what I have said to you regarding working out IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE - LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR - BE YOUR VERY BEST - ALWAYS!!! NEVER give that up for anyone or anything - because your TOTAL HEALTH is worth FAR MORE than everything else!!!

Take Care, John H.

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