Guaranteed Muscle

John H. · 04-01-2004, 08:20 AM

The very best way to achieve the Muscle you WANT is to stick with it. It WILL come FOR SURE as long as you stay focused, make sure you get the proper nutrition, rest, and DO the exercises concentrating on what you are doing. Communicate with each muscle as you are doing them. Become aware of your body while you do each exercise telling it what you want and listening too to what your body tells you. Remember too that just because you may think you are tired does not always mean that you need to rest. You may just want to rachet it up more because demands you make are one of the factors in muscle growth.

If you REALLY want Muscle you must honestly work for it but the rewards are WELL WORTH THE EFFORT and in the end it is really NOT as hard as you may sometimes think. The end result is entirely based on the honest effort you put into it. You WILL get so much more than you realize if you will only BE honest.

Men with REAL Muscle work for it and they GET what they work for. Observe Men you know that HAVE total muscle everywhere and see for yourself how they EARN it. NOTHING in life that is WORTH IT and is damn good necessarily comes "easily" but when you do get involved you find it is not always as hard as you think it may be.

Consistency - stay with it! It WILL HAPPEN! Be smart about it! Learn!

Take Care, John H.

squanto · 04-01-2004, 09:48 AM

weird, all i did was buy a bowflex and my muscles just came about by themselves, i didnt even have to use it... i guess everyones different.

BabsieGirl · 04-01-2004, 09:57 AM

Nice change John

Spitfire · 04-01-2004, 10:22 AM

Thanks Tony Robbins

j/k

**CowPimp** · 04-01-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by squanto
weird, all i did was buy a bowflex and my muscles just came about by themselves, i didnt even have to use it... i guess everyones different.

I'm on the beer and TV routine. It worked even better than my purchasing equipment and stashing it in my basement routine.

BabsieGirl · 04-01-2004, 11:57 AM

Smart arse

John H. · 04-01-2004, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by CowPimp
I'm on the beer and TV routine. It worked even better than my purchasing equipment and stashing it in my basement routine.

Hi Cow. Hate to tell ya Buddy but you really are not helping yourself at all if you are speaking truthfully here. Hope you are just kidding! There is NOTHING like PURE TOTAL MUSCLE all over. Those that have it KNOW it for sure! Take Care, John H.

**CowPimp** · 04-01-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by John H.
Hi Cow. Hate to tell ya Buddy but you really are not helping yourself at all if you are speaking truthfully here. Hope you are just kidding! There is NOTHING like PURE TOTAL MUSCLE all over. Those that have it KNOW it for sure! Take Care, John H.

I'm definitely kidding. I hardly drink beer (Although I like to get pretty crunked when I do) and watch relatively little TV.

Spitfire · 04-01-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by John H.
Hi Cow. Hate to tell ya Buddy but you really are not helping yourself at all if you are speaking truthfully here. Hope you are just kidding! There is NOTHING like PURE TOTAL MUSCLE all over. Those that have it KNOW it for sure! Take Care, John H.

20 bucks says this guys like 5'4" 125lbs

BabsieGirl · 04-01-2004, 12:58 PM

who, cow?

Spitfire · 04-01-2004, 01:00 PM

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There is NOTHING like PURE TOTAL MUSCLE all over. Those that have it KNOW it for sure! Take Care, John H.

NO The Preacher

John H. · 04-02-2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Spitfire
20 bucks says this guys like 5'4" 125lbs

Hi Spitfire. You loose. Sorry to disappoint you - 6'1" @ 193 lbs. I know what I am talking about - I am just sharing with those that are truly interested in making their lives much better. NOT trying to be a "preacher" ever! Just stating FACT! Take Care, John H.

Spitfire · 04-02-2004, 09:21 AM

Bro, I'm 6'1" @ 190, not to disappoint 'YOU' but your the same proportion as the 5'4", proving my point, thanks

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There is NOTHING like PURE TOTAL MUSCLE all over. Those that have it KNOW it for sure!

You should be a little more than 3lbs heavier then me. Yeah

John H. · 04-05-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Spitfire
Bro, I'm 6'1" @ 190, not to disappoint 'YOU' but your the same proportion as the 5'4", proving my point, thanks

You should be a little more than 3lbs heavier then me. Yeah

Hi Spitfire. What I am saying is that the MORE Muscle a Man has and the more quality and purity of it the better. Not JUST the weight of a person's body but the weight of real pure muscle that weighs. Muscle weighs more that fat. MUCH BETTER! Being totally healthy has a life all its own. Rock hard super chiseled pure muscle is LIFE ITSELF and a Man that has as much as he can develop - earn - makes all things better for him and those that care about him too. Truthfully! And it is not always that "hard" to earn it too. Nature has a way of telling us "secrets" about ourselves we probably do not even think about or realize - through muscle. To KNOW that sometimes makes it necessary to have been sick or unhealthy so a person can realize what they DO NOT WANT - to be UNhealthy. We (meaning everyone perhaps) take things for granted sometimes and forget. Muscle has ways of "speaking" to us. Even when we least "expect it".

Take Care, John H.

Yanick · 04-05-2004, 09:01 AM

so a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

jaysun · 04-05-2004, 09:04 AM

a pound of muscle is the same as a pound of fat. They are both one pound. duh.

John H. · 04-05-2004, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Yanick
so a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

Hi Yanick. I forget where I read that (more than one place) but yes, a pound of muscle weighs more that a pound of fat. Probably because of the QUALITY of the Muscle too - close fibers, etc. And the associated strength a person receives from developing and having Muscle - fat just kinda "exists" - Muscle is earned and developed and made more "perfect". Denser. If you (meaning anyone here) were to FEEL the Muscles of a Man that works out damn hard and that is ripped you will FEEL their strength, hardness and total volume. You will even SEE that fact. When you feel fat it feels lifeless and mushy and sickly and soft and less dense. Muscle FEELS alive and looks alive because it IS. It has more density and volume and life itself. Find this out for yourself. ASK a Man that you KNOW works out well and ask him if you can feel what he has - it is a compliment to him and to you actually and a recognition and mutual respect for work very well done. Doing that - the feeling - actually TELLS you BOTH something neither of you MAY have realized. There is true beauty, respect, honor, dignity, etc. in pure muscle and a Man that honestly works for his. He finds that out himself. Share that with others too so they too will understand. Life is real - so is REAL Muscle. Take Care, John H.

Yanick · 04-05-2004, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by jaysun
a pound of muscle is the same as a pound of fat. They are both one pound. duh.

good job, you get a gold star

only reason i posted that was :

Quote:

Originally posted by John H.
Hi Spitfire. What I am saying is that the MORE Muscle a Man has and the more quality and purity of it the better. Not JUST the weight of a person's body but the weight of real pure muscle that weighs. Muscle weighs more that fat. MUCH BETTER! Being totally healthy has a life all its own. Rock hard super chiseled pure muscle is LIFE ITSELF and a Man that has as much as he can develop - earn - makes all things better for him and those that care about him too. Truthfully! And it is not always that "hard" to earn it too. Nature has a way of telling us "secrets" about ourselves we probably do not even think about or realize - through muscle. To KNOW that sometimes makes it necessary to have been sick or unhealthy so a person can realize what they DO NOT WANT - to be UNhealthy. We (meaning everyone perhaps) take things for granted sometimes and forget. Muscle has ways of "speaking" to us. Even when we least "expect it".

what the hell is pure, quality muscle?

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Originally posted by John H.
Hi Yanick. I forget where I read that (more than one place) but yes, a pound of muscle weighs more that a pound of fat. Probably because of the QUALITY of the Muscle too - close fibers, etc. And the associated strength a person receives from developing and having Muscle - fat just kinda "exists" - Muscle is earned and developed and made more "perfect". Denser. If you (meaning anyone here) were to FEEL the Muscles of a Man that works out damn hard and that is ripped you will FEEL their strength, hardness and total volume. You will even SEE that fact. When you feel fat it feels lifeless and mushy and sickly and soft and less dense. Muscle FEELS alive and looks alive because it IS. It has more density and volume and life itself. Find this out for yourself. ASK a Man that you KNOW works out well and ask him if you can feel what he has - it is a compliment to him and to you actually and a recognition and mutual respect for work very well done. Doing that - the feeling - actually TELLS you BOTH something neither of you MAY have realized. There is true beauty, respect, honor, dignity, etc. in pure muscle and a Man that honestly works for his. He finds that out himself. Share that with others too so they too will understand. Life is real - so is REAL Muscle. Take Care, John H.

Umm, i dun know where to start. Fat is alive too, it is metabolically active, just to a very tiny extent, so tiny that its negligible. Hard, dense muscle = sarcomere hypertrophy, puffy balloon looking muscle = sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. BF, levels will directly affect the way a muscle looks and feels. Powerlifters have tons of muscle, but feel them and they won't be as hard as say a bb at 6% even if he is 6 foot and weighs 150lbs. Also what is real muscle, and what is pure, quality muscle?

Lastly i leave you with one more question, lets see if you get it yet (hint read the post that replied to my first question). What is heavier 50lbs of feathers or 50lbs of brick?

John H. · 04-05-2004, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by jaysun
a pound of muscle is the same as a pound of fat. They are both one pound. duh.

Hi Jaysun. A pound is a pound BUT what kind of "pound(s)" do YOU want fat or Muscle? Muscle weighs more than fat. See what I am saying. Why would you want to carry around fat when you can have Muscle. Why would you wants pounds of fat when you will be so MUCH BETTER OFF having pounds of Muscle. You REALLY FEEL so much better when it is Muscle - ALL Muscle. Your total bodyweight can be either that of fat or of Muscle. Men who have Muscle even look better because they are better. Fat helps no one. It can actually end up killing you too. Muscle DOES IT ALL. Take Care, John H.

John H. · 04-05-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Yanick
good job, you get a gold star

only reason i posted that was :

what the hell is pure, quality muscle?

EDIT:

Umm, i dun know where to start. Fat is alive too, it is metabolically active, just to a very tiny extent, so tiny that its negligible. Hard, dense muscle = sarcomere hypertrophy, puffy balloon looking muscle = sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. BF, levels will directly affect the way a muscle looks and feels. Powerlifters have tons of muscle, but feel them and they won't be as hard as say a bb at 6% even if he is 6 foot and weighs 150lbs. Also what is real muscle, and what is pure, quality muscle?

Lastly i leave you with one more question, lets see if you get it yet (hint read the post that replied to my first question). What is heavier 50lbs of feathers or 50lbs of brick?

Hi Yanick. The VERY BEST a Man can develop. HONESTLY AND SINCERELY AND ACCURATELY SO. Properly trained with proper form, proper nutrition, proper rest. (You can not have one without the other to succeed). VERY healthy and "clean". FLAWLESS. "Ultra". EVERY FIBER perfectly honed. Perfectly developed. Perfectly fed. Etc. "Communicated with" in the process.

I would not call fat "alive" and believe it to be living. You can call it "existing" but who wants to "just exist"?

Sure a pound of feathers and a pound of brick weigh the same. So does a pound of Muscle and a pound of fat. I said MUSCLE WEIGHS MORE THAN FAT. It does. The purer the more. Volume is not the only measure. A Man can appear to be bigger but that does not make him better. It is the quality and purity of the Muscle he develops that determines the HONESTY of his Muscle. And its completeness. And its true health and totality. Bodyfat does determine the "look" but it can also determine the quality of overall health - and Muscle - too.

John H. · 04-05-2004, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Yanick
good job, you get a gold star

only reason i posted that was :

what the hell is pure, quality muscle?

EDIT:

Umm, i dun know where to start. Fat is alive too, it is metabolically active, just to a very tiny extent, so tiny that its negligible. Hard, dense muscle = sarcomere hypertrophy, puffy balloon looking muscle = sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. BF, levels will directly affect the way a muscle looks and feels. Powerlifters have tons of muscle, but feel them and they won't be as hard as say a bb at 6% even if he is 6 foot and weighs 150lbs. Also what is real muscle, and what is pure, quality muscle?

Lastly i leave you with one more question, lets see if you get it yet (hint read the post that replied to my first question). What is heavier 50lbs of feathers or 50lbs of brick?

Hi Yanick. I personally want the VERY BEST quality and purity of Muscle - every fiber. Everyone needs SOME percentage of fat but to a munimum. Not to excess. Muscle NEEDS to be its VERY BEST possible and that is determined by the willingness of an individual and his honesty and accuracy to that end. His honest desire and knowledge and his end result.

I "got" what you said the first time. I said MUSCLE WEIGHS MORE THAN FAT. The volume. But a pound of Muscle WEIGHS the same as a pound of fat. A pound of feathers WEIGHS the same as a pound of bricks.

Fat, the more there is, is closer to death actually. There needs to be an honest accurate balance and porportion. Everyone needs SOME fat but NOT much. MUSCLE allows people to TRULY LIVE and DO and BE... Fat, especially by itself and to excess inhibits. Even destroys.
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Take Care, John H.

Yanick · 04-05-2004, 09:48 AM

i see what your getting at now. Its more of an enlightened, philosophical thing.

But about muscle weighing more than fat...then bricks weigh more than feathers, but 50lbs of bricks=50lbs of feathers. So we go to high school science to explain this predicament.

Mass: A unified body of matter.

Volume: The amount of space occupied by a three-dimensional object or region of space, expressed in cubic units.

Density: The mass per unit volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature. (D=M/V)

^Ref: Dictionary.com

Weight = Massx3.81 <---acceleration due to gravity if i still remember it correctly.

Muscle is denser than fat, not heavier.

You're thinking is correct, but your terminology is wrong, and i hate when people use words incorrectly. Like HIT'ers and intensity...INTENSITY IS % of 1RM, NOT HOW HARD YOUR WORKOUT WAS!

And, yes i am a nitpicky little biatch

j.h.ater · 04-05-2004, 09:54 AM

John H., you ignorant slut,

you said, and I quote "A POUND of muscle weighs more than a POUND of fat".

You did not say simply "muscle weighs more than fat"

Go re-read your previous posts, moron.

A little life advice: admit when you're wrong, and you'll go a lot further.

Spitfire · 04-05-2004, 10:11 AM

A little more life advice- Dont be so weird!

j.h.ater · 04-05-2004, 10:16 AM

it's John H.'s weirdness that got him banned from bb.com.

He argues with everyone.
He never admits when he's wrong.
He always ties whatever he's talking about into some speach about the merits of homosexuality.
He's completely ignorant on the subject of bodybuilding.
He repeats his quotes about "PURE MUSCLE" ad nauseum.
He randomly inserts CAPS and "quotes" throughout his posts.

Just give him a little more time, and the mods will likely ban him from this board as well.

Deeznuts · 04-05-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by John H.
The very best way to achieve the Muscle you WANT is to stick with it. It WILL come FOR SURE as long as you stay focused, make sure you get the proper nutrition, rest, and DO the exercises concentrating on what you are doing. Communicate with each muscle as you are doing them. Become aware of your body while you do each exercise telling it what you want and listening too to what your body tells you. Remember too that just because you may think you are tired does not always mean that you need to rest. You may just want to rachet it up more because demands you make are one of the factors in muscle growth.

If you REALLY want Muscle you must honestly work for it but the rewards are WELL WORTH THE EFFORT and in the end it is really NOT as hard as you may sometimes think. The end result is entirely based on the honest effort you put into it. You WILL get so much more than you realize if you will only BE honest.

Men with REAL Muscle work for it and they GET what they work for. Observe Men you know that HAVE total muscle everywhere and see for yourself how they EARN it. NOTHING in life that is WORTH IT and is damn good necessarily comes "easily" but when you do get involved you find it is not always as hard as you think it may be.

Consistency - stay with it! It WILL HAPPEN! Be smart about it! Learn!

Take Care, John H.

That all sounds good, but WHERE are pics?

04-01-2004, 08:20 AM	#1
John H. Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Meadville, Pa. Posts: 2,786	Guaranteed Muscle BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com The very best way to achieve the Muscle you WANT is to stick with it. It WILL come FOR SURE as long as you stay focused, make sure you get the proper nutrition, rest, and DO the exercises concentrating on what you are doing. Communicate with each muscle as you are doing them. Become aware of your body while you do each exercise telling it what you want and listening too to what your body tells you. Remember too that just because you may think you are tired does not always mean that you need to rest. You may just want to rachet it up more because demands you make are one of the factors in muscle growth. If you REALLY want Muscle you must honestly work for it but the rewards are WELL WORTH THE EFFORT and in the end it is really NOT as hard as you may sometimes think. The end result is entirely based on the honest effort you put into it. You WILL get so much more than you realize if you will only BE honest. Men with REAL Muscle work for it and they GET what they work for. Observe Men you know that HAVE total muscle everywhere and see for yourself how they EARN it. NOTHING in life that is WORTH IT and is damn good necessarily comes "easily" but when you do get involved you find it is not always as hard as you think it may be. Consistency - stay with it! It WILL HAPPEN! Be smart about it! Learn! Take Care, John H.

04-01-2004, 09:57 AM	#3
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Nice change John
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04-01-2004, 10:22 AM	#4
Spitfire Im hungry Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,779 Photos: 2	Thanks Tony Robbins j/k
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04-01-2004, 11:57 AM	#6
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Smart arse
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04-01-2004, 12:58 PM	#10
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	who, cow?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

04-01-2004, 09:48 AM	#2
squanto Fitness Celebrity Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cheese Cottage Posts: 1,430	weird, all i did was buy a bowflex and my muscles just came about by themselves, i didnt even have to use it... i guess everyones different.

04-05-2004, 09:01 AM	#15
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	so a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek

04-05-2004, 09:04 AM	#16
jaysun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 32	a pound of muscle is the same as a pound of fat. They are both one pound. duh.

04-05-2004, 09:48 AM	#22
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	i see what your getting at now. Its more of an enlightened, philosophical thing. But about muscle weighing more than fat...then bricks weigh more than feathers, but 50lbs of bricks=50lbs of feathers. So we go to high school science to explain this predicament. Mass: A unified body of matter. Volume: The amount of space occupied by a three-dimensional object or region of space, expressed in cubic units. Density: The mass per unit volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature. (D=M/V) ^Ref: Dictionary.com Weight = Massx3.81 <---acceleration due to gravity if i still remember it correctly. Muscle is denser than fat, not heavier. You're thinking is correct, but your terminology is wrong, and i hate when people use words incorrectly. Like HIT'ers and intensity...INTENSITY IS % of 1RM, NOT HOW HARD YOUR WORKOUT WAS! And, yes i am a nitpicky little biatch Last edited by Yanick : 04-05-2004 at 10:00 AM.
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek

04-05-2004, 09:54 AM	#23
j.h.ater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 13	John H., you ignorant slut, you said, and I quote "A POUND of muscle weighs more than a POUND of fat". You did not say simply "muscle weighs more than fat" Go re-read your previous posts, moron. A little life advice: admit when you're wrong, and you'll go a lot further.
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04-05-2004, 10:11 AM	#24
Spitfire Im hungry Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,779 Photos: 2	A little more life advice- Dont be so weird!
	Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. Abraham Lincoln I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. Hunter S. Thompson RIP

04-05-2004, 10:16 AM	#25
j.h.ater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 13	it's John H.'s weirdness that got him banned from bb.com. He argues with everyone. He never admits when he's wrong. He always ties whatever he's talking about into some speach about the merits of homosexuality. He's completely ignorant on the subject of bodybuilding. He repeats his quotes about "PURE MUSCLE" ad nauseum. He randomly inserts CAPS and "quotes" throughout his posts. Just give him a little more time, and the mods will likely ban him from this board as well.
j.h.ater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 13