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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 29
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What is the best way to get a six pack besides doing crunches and sit-ups? Any good machines that will do the job?
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MP Minister of Pain!
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Any heavy weighted ab workouts are fine to build them up....but "abs are made in the kitchen" once said by Jodi
or maybe twice but who is counting. If you want your abs to come out you really need to clean up your diet and eat right. But weighted ab lifts work to build the muscle up so they come out sooner. |
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"Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 29
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So you mean using a free weight right? Also, what is a good weight to start at?
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MP Minister of Pain!
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You can use free weights or machines, anything will work. Different machines work different parts of the abs and so forth but if you really want to see them its all in the diet.
As for weight you really need to figure that one out on your own, start at a weight and if it is to light add some more. |
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"Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson
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Fit Freak
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Combination of traditional high rep movements with WEIGHTED movements (example being rope crunches)....BUT most importantly is DIET DIET DIET. No matter how impressive your abs are they will be invisible if hidden by a smooth layer of FAT
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DS
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MS
Posts: 5,757
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I want to say it again... D-I-E-T!!!
thats the key. to build up adding "thickness" resistance style seems to work for me- cable crunches, decline crunches w/weight on chest, reverse crunches w/db between feet, etc. however I NEVER used resistance for my obliques. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 165
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Check out the may issue of muscular development on pg 212. It shows Jimmy Canyon's ab workout which seems pretty intense, I'm gonna give it a shot today though since i'm supposed to work abs today anyway. It lists 8 different ab exercises.
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Diable
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 261
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It's funny that this is the usual response, but then magazines and forums like this have few discussions of recipes or diet advice.
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Fit Freak
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That's because the entire purpose of the magazines is for advertising and promoting athletes.
Magazines should not be your primary source of any info...PERIOD. Also, the programs they advocate are typically followed by pros consuming huge amts of calories, insulin, hGH, AAS, T3, clen, etc, etc, etc. Any normal person would likely end up overtraining. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 3
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abs
The magazines are trying to sell supplements and know people want to hear training tips more than diet. I see people every day doing hundreds of sit ups to no avail because they go home and don't eat right. On the other hand, if you eat right and lose bodyfat...you don't even have to do sit ups to see your abs...just to fine tune.
Get rid of the fat and you'll see your abs! |
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I see YOU!!
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Ok....the magazine are trying to get you to buy them.
You do not get abs by just doing their workouts from the magazines. If your DIET is not good, you will not loose the FAT layer over the abs, therefore you will not see the abs! Sure, they will still be hiding under that nice chunk of blubber around your middle, but they will look like a nice chunk of blubber. I have abs. I have nice ones that most men would be jealous of and I am proud of that! But when my diet sucks, they suck too. You can not see them except for a vague hint that they are there. You do have to train them like any other muscle on your body, but they are not as easy to see if you have that fat layer over the top....so yes....we all say DIET! and that the abs are made in the kitchen. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 261
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Should we start a diet topic and/or recipe topic (to cover the hole left my fitness magazines interested in selling supplements)?
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SHOWERING IN AUSCHWITZ
Posts: 80
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aside from losing body fat...
having a partner thow the medicine ball with you on a decline bench is unequaled in bringing the abs, obliques and seratus all together. everyone i have had do this doesnt come to the gym the next day becuase they are so sore. I like the 15lb med call going side to side, and the 5 lb ball straight back over head...like a pullover and situp in one on the decline bench. The latest Hammer Strength Ab crunch machine is amazing, if you cant hit this up...hanging leg raise. |
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Dancing Banana :)
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listen to these guys
ur abs wont show unless u diet....i should know ... i dont diet and my abs are taking AGES.. but i am loosing my waist slowly... funny.... if i dieted id prolly lost it by now... dieting is a nono for me.. sorri... maybe when im older.. but not at 15... no siry peace |
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hehe im fat
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 29
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Well does anyone know where i can find some good information on dieting?
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 68
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hey budz, can you post that ab workout? i dont have that magazine.
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 165
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hanging leg raises, decline bench leg raises, seated leg raises, twisting knee-ups, regular sit-ups, twisting sit-ups, "air" leg extensions on a roman chair...it's like doing leg extensions in a roman chair exactly what the name says, brromstick twists
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Diable
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LA ISLA BONITA
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TURN ON SOME DJ TIESTO (in search of sunrise 2) and dance for 8 hours !!!
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 2
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Hey,
I'm one of those people with the abs just barely visible under the fat layer. I'm going back to university in a week for the summer (yeah i know it's screwed up), and so i'll be buying my own food and stuff. can somebody either tell me what i should be buying if i want to lose the fat or point me to where i can find out. i need some sort of regimen so i can do the whole 6 meal a day thing and still build the upper body. with my schedule i can usually only get to the gym 3 maybe 4 times a week, is it still possible to make improvements at this frequency? thanks. |
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MP Minister of Pain!
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Read the stickies at the top of the training and diet/nutrition boards carefully and that should solve most of your issues.
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"Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: utah
Posts: 17
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I love free hanging leg lifts (slow,full and non swinging). After those I do some decline crunches.
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