Banned Exercises ?

Burner02 · 04-27-2004, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
Nov 13 - THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN BODYBUILDING & CAROL SEMPLE FITNESS & FIGURE CLASSIC

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thanks!

Quadsweep · 04-27-2004, 07:42 AM

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So, you can make fun of him, and his article or whatever, but the fact of the matter is you will never be at his level (or even close)of success in bodybuilding

I will beat a 100% clean Jay Cutler at any time!

You know why?

Jay Cutler will find himself in the parking lot with pink dumbells doing lunges at the same time I am in the gym doing heavy squats. Maybe then he will be forced to realise what work and what does not work.

I find it very amusing that I beat a juiced up Cutler at lunges. Maybe it's has something to do with my background in OLY weightlifting or maybe I have a better hand eye coordination?

I don't know about his other lifts. I don't think anyone knows what for real or what is plates of cardboard and gossip.

You know I don't Envy Cutler that much. I'm as much into athletics as I am into bodybuilding. Beauty, explosivity, strenght united.

I understand that one can get motivated by looking at the training videos.

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hey wiseass,

Same back at you! "Mr. Lunges DO work"

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but what i WAS saying was that lunges DO work as a nice supplement

You still refuse to tell why I should be doing them?

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but as to your second part, honestly, you have no idea how "much" you can train when juicin. you finish your workout and feel like you can go run a marathon. during your w.o., you get an indescribable feeling of wanting to train.

This is exactly why people on juice giving advice to other people should have their post labelled with a big disclaimer.

Eggs · 04-27-2004, 07:55 AM

Oh please, you couldnt beat my friggin grandma out in the parking lot with pink dumbells. You compare yourself to Cutler?

Maybe I missed you posting your pics somewhere... but the only thing I can guarantee is big on you is your mouth.

Keep talking your smack, you want to see the size some of the pros lift at? Go watch a Ronnie training video and you'll see how hardcore his training is. You still have this stupid idea in your head that pros are "all roids man". Wake the hell up, just because you use roids and have good genetics doesnt make you a monster like that. It takes some hardcore training too.. training which you couldnt possibly fathom. But you'd like us to believe you do

Your body adapts. Its good to change up your routine and hit your muscles in different ways. I think lunges are valuable as an occasional tool to place a different kind of stress on your leg muscles.

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This is exactly why people on juice giving advice to other people should have their post labelled with a big disclaimer.

I think that you should have a big disclaimer on your postings that tell us how much beef you ate as a kid, what your genetics are, how long you've been training, what kind of supplements you use, and so on. Or you could just leave it be and take advice for what it is worth and train hard.

Quadsweep · 04-27-2004, 09:08 AM

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Or you could just leave it be and take advice for what it is worth and train hard

Hard is never ever going to be enough for drug free athletes. Drugfree athletes must train smart as well

Flex · 04-27-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Quadsweep
Hard is never ever going to be enough for drug free athletes. Drugfree athletes must train smart as well

dude, you're one of the many misinformed people that knows little to nothing about steroids. people like you think you take steroids, and voila, you are huge. i feel sorry for you.

ya, ronnie's done an enormous amount of juice. but w/o his genetics, 20+yrs of lifting, dieting and living the BB lifestyle, he wouldnt be anything w/ just juice.

you're just like the dumbass people in congress, so learn a little before you judge something you know nothing about.

Flex · 04-27-2004, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Quadsweep
I will beat a 100% clean Jay Cutler at any time!

You still refuse to tell why I should be doing them?

First of all, you beating a clean Jay Cutler is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. do you even workout? if you could beat a clean Cutler, you'd better be one of the top natural guys in the world right now for starters, and that's JUST for starters.

secondly, it's not that i refuse to tell you why you should be doing lunges, its that i dont care if you do lunges. personally i'll take the opinions of Arnold, Haney, Ronnie, Sergio, Platz, DeMayo and so many other pro BB's about something over some guy on a forum named quadsweep.

Flex · 04-27-2004, 09:49 AM

oh ya, and like you said "as far as natural athletes have to train smart as well", that goes to show you know zero about steroids.

you think people grow just from injections, like they don't need to train correctly/intensely, rest enough and eat right/enough. again, please don't argue about something you know nothing about.

**Prince** · 04-27-2004, 10:14 AM

Quadsweep, I am still waiting to see your pics.

Flex · 04-27-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
Quadsweep, I am still waiting to see your pics.

they must be pretty impressive if he owns a natural Jay Cutler

**Prince** · 04-27-2004, 12:02 PM

he will never post pics.

**CowPimp** · 04-27-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
he will never post pics.

I'm sure he will continue to talk trash about the training methods of some of the world's top bodybuilders though.

Flex · 04-27-2004, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by CowPimp
I'm sure he will continue to talk trash about the training methods of some of the world's top bodybuilders though.

Ya, because those methods are ONLY good for BB's on steroids

Eggs · 04-27-2004, 04:44 PM

Yeah, we all know that without the roids they'd all be crazy skinny!

**Prince** · 04-27-2004, 04:50 PM

the funny thing is many people actually believe that if they took the same drugs they could look like a pro bodybuilder, I will never understand this irrational thinking.

It's like saying that you could also be a NFL star quarterback or an Olympic Gold Medalist, if you wanted to, or if you trained like them, or whatever.

**P-funk** · 04-27-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
the funny thing is many people actaully believe that if they took the same drugs they could look like a pro bodybuilder, I will never understand this irrational thinking.

It's like saying that you could also be a NFL star quarterback or an Olympic Gold Medalist, if you wanted to, or if you trained like them, or whatever.

Yeah, I could never understand that. The World's strong man contest was on today when I was working out and after my workout my training partner and I were standing there and he says "Man these guys are so strong. They are on everything though AND they have great genetics. I could take all the stuff they are taking and never be that strong or atheletic." Steroids don't make you an amazing athelete. You either are or you aren't!! they can help a great athelete become a tad bit better though.

*side note* I don't use steroids so I never don't do walking lunges.

LAM · 04-27-2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
the funny thing is many people actually believe that if they took the same drugs they could look like a pro bodybuilder, I will never understand this irrational thinking.

ditto, that shit kills me !

if you can't win a national title steroid free you have NO CHANCE as a pro....

**Prince** · 04-27-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by LAM
if you can't win a national title steroid free you have NO CHANCE as a pro....

You're right...these days you can almost say a state level show.

maniclion · 04-27-2004, 05:07 PM

Walking Lunges - is that the maneuver men make to get their underwear out of their crack? A la Kevin James

Flex · 04-27-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
the funny thing is many people actually believe that if they took the same drugs they could look like a pro bodybuilder, I will never understand this irrational thinking.
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The best estimation i can come up for this is because they try to rationalize and justify why they are not a top BB....or in this case, a top anything.

"OH, if i took as much steroids as Ronnie blah blah blah". It's easy for people to accept that they can't be the best of something by giving a reason, so they attempt to justify by "if i took all those roids...."

and you're dead right, its the exact same as w/pro athletes. it's basically giving people a chance at the glory days they never had. "i could've done this or i could've done that"

Quadsweep · 04-27-2004, 07:28 PM

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personally i'll take the opinions of Arnold, Haney, Ronnie, Sergio, Platz, DeMayo and so many other pro BB's about something over some guy on a forum named quadsweep.

*LAUGH*

Do you actually do walking lunges in the parkin lot with dumbells weighing only 40-45 pounds like the PROs? Do you squat in a smith machine with elevated heels like Arnold did? I won't go further into Arnold encyclopedia of MYTHS. Great entertainment. Go ahead waste your time in the gym getting bursitis hitting every muscle from every angle.

IFBB pro Bob Cicherrillo: "Squat is a back breaker. Bench press sucks. Deadlifts strain your body." ( http://www.flexonline.com/train/6?page=1 )

I could go on and on about the training MYTHS employed by juiced up bodybuilders. Frankly, I don't have time for that.

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personally i'll take the opinions of Arnold

Great ask for his opinion about drugs!

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they must be pretty impressive if he owns a natural Jay Cutler

There is no such thing as a natural Cutler. There never has been.

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Walking Lunges - is that the maneuver men make to get their underwear out of their crack?

Yes there is a time and place for everything.

Flex · 04-27-2004, 08:48 PM

quadsweep, you're a clown.

if Cutler was natural, he'd own you. as a matter of fact, do you even bodybuild?

actually i do squat with plates under my heels, and guess what, my legs are my best bp.

please, humor me, and tell me "myths" of juiced up BB's that don't pertain to natural BB's.

Eggs · 04-27-2004, 09:11 PM

Everyones gotta be in agreement on that... Quads most definitely a clown.

LAM · 04-27-2004, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Eggs
Everyones gotta be in agreement on that... Quads most definitely a clown.

Quad who ? he got put on my ignore list days ago...

Eggs · 04-27-2004, 09:22 PM

Haha, one of these days I'm going to find that thing

That said, every bit of training advice we get should be taken with a grain of salt... on the internet, from friends, or from pro body builders. One shouldnt discount them just because of their position, but one should definitely take everything with a grain of salt and reason through the value of what the person recommended.

04-27-2004, 09:49 AM	#67
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	oh ya, and like you said "as far as natural athletes have to train smart as well", that goes to show you know zero about steroids. you think people grow just from injections, like they don't need to train correctly/intensely, rest enough and eat right/enough. again, please don't argue about something you know nothing about.
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

04-27-2004, 10:14 AM	#68
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,982 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Quadsweep, I am still waiting to see your pics.
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04-27-2004, 12:02 PM	#70
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,982 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	he will never post pics.
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04-27-2004, 04:50 PM	#74
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,982 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	the funny thing is many people actually believe that if they took the same drugs they could look like a pro bodybuilder, I will never understand this irrational thinking. It's like saying that you could also be a NFL star quarterback or an Olympic Gold Medalist, if you wanted to, or if you trained like them, or whatever.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System. Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (CEE) On Sale $17.49 per bottle!

04-27-2004, 08:48 PM	#81
Flex FLEXecutioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pomping Iyuhn Posts: 6,278 Photos: 2	quadsweep, you're a clown. if Cutler was natural, he'd own you. as a matter of fact, do you even bodybuild? actually i do squat with plates under my heels, and guess what, my legs are my best bp. please, humor me, and tell me "myths" of juiced up BB's that don't pertain to natural BB's.
	You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst. * Got juice?Need Motivation?How to Train* Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!Ahhnold*

04-27-2004, 04:44 PM	#73
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Yeah, we all know that without the roids they'd all be crazy skinny!

04-27-2004, 05:07 PM	#78
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,362 Photos: 10	Walking Lunges - is that the maneuver men make to get their underwear out of their crack? A la Kevin James

04-27-2004, 09:11 PM	#82
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Everyones gotta be in agreement on that... Quads most definitely a clown.

04-27-2004, 09:22 PM	#84
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Haha, one of these days I'm going to find that thing That said, every bit of training advice we get should be taken with a grain of salt... on the internet, from friends, or from pro body builders. One shouldnt discount them just because of their position, but one should definitely take everything with a grain of salt and reason through the value of what the person recommended.