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Old 04-29-2004, 09:10 PM   #1
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Arrow Wanted:Back and Shoulder Help

HELP!!
I'm so frustrated. No matter what I do I can't seem to make any improvements on my back or shoulders. Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 04-29-2004, 09:21 PM   #2
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What is your current routine for them, and whats your split?
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Old 04-29-2004, 09:21 PM   #3
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post your routine...



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Old 04-29-2004, 09:33 PM   #4
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For back:
Front Pulldown 3/12-15
Seated Cable Row 3/10-12
1 Arm dumbell Row 3/8-10
Close Neutral-Grip Pull-Up 2/8-10
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Old 04-30-2004, 08:23 AM   #5
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I'd start of with a wide grip pull-up... do 4 sets stopping at complete failure with 1 1/2 to 2 mins rest between sets..

mid grip lat pull down 3/8-10

single arm row or standing bent row 3/10-12

seated row 3/8-10


this works nice for me..



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Old 04-30-2004, 09:12 AM   #6
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Put incline bench at 45° lay on stomach and do reverse dumbell flies, Then do again at 30° and once on flat. If that doesnt work, then you have no posterior delts, sorry.



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Old 04-30-2004, 12:18 PM   #7
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any one have a link to what a one arm row is? i have a idea of what one is, but im not sure if im right. Thanks



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Old 04-30-2004, 12:46 PM   #8
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Try Yates rows as well. I love them for back development. My routine, in case you care, is:

yates rows
wide-grip pullups
bent-over reverse flies
stiff-leg deadlifts (done on leg day though)
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Old 04-30-2004, 05:35 PM   #9
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Those are good for back, for shoulders I do

shoulder press 4 x 6-10
lat raise 4 x 8-15
front lat raise 4 x 8-15

and for traps
shrugs 4x8-15

all pyrimding sets.
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Deadlifts and rowing. And lots of food. 25 calories for every pound you weigh.



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Old 04-30-2004, 08:30 PM   #11
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Srry...what r Yates Rows???
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