Super setting Biceps & Triceps provides amazing growth

Randy · 06-22-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

go through a period of haaaaaardcore eating to hit those huge bodyweight numbers.

I have no problem with that one

jaim91 · 06-23-2004, 06:51 AM

I have a problem...well, it's not really considering I'm 16. I find that the only way I can gain mass/ muscle is by eating junk. With 9% bodyfat, my metabolism revs like a mofo, and eating "healthy","clean" food just aggrivates it. I need cookies/ice cream/ pizza to slow it down. Not that that works...I know that this won't always be the case for me, so I will hav to soon get out of the habit, but I was wondering if it was harmful to me, right now...

Johnnny · 06-23-2004, 07:17 AM

jaim91

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I have a problem...well, it's not really considering I'm 16. I find that the only way I can gain mass/ muscle is by eating junk. With 9% bodyfat, my metabolism revs like a mofo, and eating "healthy","clean" food just aggrivates it. I need cookies/ice cream/ pizza to slow it down. Not that that works...I know that this won't always be the case for me, so I will hav to soon get out of the habit, but I was wondering if it was harmful to me, right now...

You might want to try posting this in the diet & nutrition section, you might get more help posting this in there. But all I can say is you don't need junk food to gain mass.

Randy · 06-23-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaim91

I have a problem...well, it's not really considering I'm 16. I find that the only way I can gain mass/ muscle is by eating junk. With 9% bodyfat, my metabolism revs like a mofo, and eating "healthy","clean" food just aggrivates it. I need cookies/ice cream/ pizza to slow it down. Not that that works...I know that this won't always be the case for me, so I will hav to soon get out of the habit, but I was wondering if it was harmful to me, right now...

I think common sense tells you that eating garbage like this is not good for you now or any other time. At your age like you stated your metabolism burns off more calories and stuff than a middle aged person, but that doesn't mean you need to eat garbage just because your bodyfat is 9%. Now I know that most kids do these days, but that doesn't mean it is healthy. There is much more that it does than just putting on noticeable weight. It effects your cholestrol and blood sugar and all kinds of stuff. You don't have to be a nutricianist to know to stay away from cookies and ice cream and all the other junk that we all love to eat.. But even body builders have their cheat days... Once in awhile is ok, just don't live on the stuff

Saturday Fever · 06-23-2004, 02:39 PM

I'll bet if you wrote down everything you ate in a day and counted the calories, you'd discover you're not eating much at all.

When I first joined a gym 3 years ago, I thought I ate a lot. After writing and totalling everything one day I found out I was around 2100 calories. So much for eating a lot.

Bottom line is that you will gain eating clean, you just need to eat enough.

Johnnny · 06-23-2004, 02:57 PM

Randy

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I think common sense tells you that eating garbage like this is not good for you now or any other time. At your age like you stated your metabolism burns off more calories and stuff than a middle aged person, but that doesn't mean you need to eat garbage just because your bodyfat is 9%. Now I know that most kids do these days, but that doesn't mean it is healthy. There is much more that it does than just putting on noticeable weight. It effects your cholestrol and blood sugar and all kinds of stuff. You don't have to be a nutricianist to know to stay away from cookies and ice cream and all the other junk that we all love to eat.. But even body builders have their cheat days... Once in awhile is ok, just don't live on the stuff
Today 01:17 PM

Even though this should've been posted in the diet section, I agree with Randy. I'm sure if you eat 6 or 7 healthy meals a day, you would gain mass.
From what you say it doesn't sound like you're giving your body enough protein from meat & fish sources or enough complex carbohydrates.

Randy · 06-23-2004, 03:49 PM

Yes, and I agree with the both of you as well...

To maintain health you need to eat several small nutritious meals a day and get the proper exercise your body needs. Whether your focus is gaining mass or leaning, you need to count your calories. If you want to gain weight you need to eat more than your average requirement. If you want to lose weight you eat less then your average requirement. You couple that with the appropriate exercise

and you can maintain a lean, mean, body machine

Big-Gee · 02-01-2005, 10:15 AM

Hi all

I'm working out for mass gains at the moment. I want to try to break my workouts down so that i'm doing chest and abs on monday, back and shoulders on wednesday, arms and legs on friday. These workouts are really intense. I'l be doing about 4-5 excercises per body part (roughly 6 reps/ 5 sets), in some cases supersetting, i.e biceps and triceps and mostly training to failure. Do you recon that only training each body part once a week will be enough, i.e will seven days rest between bicep, chest, deltoid etc workouts be too long?

Gee

BlueZeru · 03-11-2005, 12:49 PM

This is all good stuff. I guess I have been "super-settings" ALL my exercises. My idea is to isolate a group of muscle and work them till exhaustion and dont touch them until a week later. I notice I fully recover and in most cases increase the weight in almost all routines. On the average I do 4 sets of 10 reps for a given muscle group. My routine looks like this now;
Sunday - Back and Shoulders
Tuesday - Legs and Chest
Thursday - Bi's and Tri
I may vary the actual exercises (cables instead of dumbells, incline vs. flat...etc) but not the routine. I have been doing this for a full month with good results. Can't wait to see how much weight I will be using for next month and on to the rest of the year. Of course, a little help from my friends (Creatine, Decavar and Paradec) goes a long way as well.

BlackDogStrut · 07-13-2005, 10:54 AM

when do you work out chest and biceps then?
If youre already doing your arms in one day

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackDogStrut

when do you work out chest and biceps then?
If youre already doing your arms in one day

Yopu could do arms on Monday and chest and back on Thursday or Friday. I did it that way for awhile and it was a great workout.

cheesegrater · 07-13-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnny

Super setting biceps & triceps I've found provides amazing growth in size, strength & shape.

The best way is to take one day once a week just for arms if you can spare the time.

I do 3 bicep exercises & 3 tricep exercises each exercise 4 sets each. Totaling the arm workout to 24 sets. 12 sets for biceps & 12 sets for triceps.

First you start with & mass/power building exercise like close-grip super setting with barbell curls using the 45lb bar. 8 sets for the two exercises.

Then a secondary exercise that still builds size/strength/shape such as some form of skull crusher tricep extensions with some form of bicep hammer curls. 8 sets for the two exercises.

Lastly you want to shape the triceps & biceps. The best would be some cable pushdown exercise for triceps & some for of concentration curls or preacher curls for biceps. 8 sets for the two exercises.

This type of arm routine can be done in 50mins if you aren't wasting time talking to ppl. Your arms will be soooo pumped & rock solid by the end of the workout. Plus your strength for the 2 muscles will greatly increase along with shape depending on your diet.

I used to train arms seperately maybe 6yrs ago say chest & biceps, shoulders & triceps or vice versa. My arms grew not to badly & developed power. But after asking around & talking to a couple of local bodybuilders, I was told I should be super setting arms on the same day & just arms. Yes these guys were on roids, but they were doing almost double the 24 sets I'm doing. They said 18-24 sets super setting arms is just the right ammount for a natural person.

Since I've been doing this, my arms have grown in size/strength, & shaped much better. I'm sure that some ppl will argue this, but if they haven't tried training arms in this manner, than they wouldn' know how good it is.

isn't a super set you do say bi curls at heavy weight, no rest, move down a weight, no rest, move down another weight?

ihateschoolmt · 07-13-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesegrater

isn't a super set you do say bi curls at heavy weight, no rest, move down a weight, no rest, move down another weight?

No, it's when you do a set of something and then with no rest do another set of a different exercise.

cheesegrater · 07-13-2005, 05:47 PM

like another body part or another exercise of the same muscle?

LAM · 07-13-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesegrater

isn't a super set you do say bi curls at heavy weight, no rest, move down a weight, no rest, move down another weight?

that is a drop set

ihateschoolmt · 07-13-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesegrater

like another body part or another exercise of the same muscle?

Either.

camarosuper6 · 07-13-2005, 09:28 PM

what a thread

**P-funk** · 07-14-2005, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6

what a thread

Witmaster · 07-14-2005, 07:22 AM

Someone feeling Nostalgic?

god hand · 07-14-2005, 03:54 PM

Why did Johnny get banned?

camarosuper6 · 07-15-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Why did Johnny get banned?

because he is a retard.

LAM · 07-15-2005, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Why did Johnny get banned?

he was a complete toolbox !

**CowPimp** · 07-16-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Why did Johnny get banned?

He rampantly spread misinformation and became confrontational over nothing. So, yeah, he was a tool.

06-23-2004, 02:39 PM	#275
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02-01-2005, 10:15 AM	#278
Big-Gee Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3	Hi all I'm working out for mass gains at the moment. I want to try to break my workouts down so that i'm doing chest and abs on monday, back and shoulders on wednesday, arms and legs on friday. These workouts are really intense. I'l be doing about 4-5 excercises per body part (roughly 6 reps/ 5 sets), in some cases supersetting, i.e biceps and triceps and mostly training to failure. Do you recon that only training each body part once a week will be enough, i.e will seven days rest between bicep, chest, deltoid etc workouts be too long? Gee
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03-11-2005, 12:49 PM	#279
BlueZeru Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3	This is all good stuff. I guess I have been "super-settings" ALL my exercises. My idea is to isolate a group of muscle and work them till exhaustion and dont touch them until a week later. I notice I fully recover and in most cases increase the weight in almost all routines. On the average I do 4 sets of 10 reps for a given muscle group. My routine looks like this now; Sunday - Back and Shoulders Tuesday - Legs and Chest Thursday - Bi's and Tri I may vary the actual exercises (cables instead of dumbells, incline vs. flat...etc) but not the routine. I have been doing this for a full month with good results. Can't wait to see how much weight I will be using for next month and on to the rest of the year. Of course, a little help from my friends (Creatine, Decavar and Paradec) goes a long way as well.
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jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	I have a problem...well, it's not really considering I'm 16. I find that the only way I can gain mass/ muscle is by eating junk. With 9% bodyfat, my metabolism revs like a mofo, and eating "healthy","clean" food just aggrivates it. I need cookies/ice cream/ pizza to slow it down. Not that that works...I know that this won't always be the case for me, so I will hav to soon get out of the habit, but I was wondering if it was harmful to me, right now...

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