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**gopro** · 06-13-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnny

I go away over night with my girlfriend to Ottawa for one night & a thread about arms & conditioning & now also about certain pro bodybuilders turns into a sumo match. LOL.

Gopro

I don't know if his physique compeletely declined as I've seen pictures of him even now & within the last 5yrs & he was still looking good. But that is true with Lee Haney in the picture. Even Dorian Yates & Lou Ferrigno lost to Lee Haney in 1993. Roy Callender did place pretty high agains him I believe 2nd or 3rd one year as at my old gym (I switched last summer) there's pictures of Roy Callender posing next to Lee Haney.

I know a couple of other ppl who work for supplement companies. How did you & would one get that type of job? I guess you'd first have to be in good condition whether you're in advertisements or not. I'm not meaning you here so don't take this the wrong way, but the couple of ppl I know they aren't anything or anyone special & they have a good job for a company.

How hard would it be for a guy such as myself not working for such a company to meet Arnold or Lou? Personally I've always wanted to met him as he is my idol. It was b/c of him as well as football that I turned my physique & life around. & I'd like to tell him what an impact he had on me. I've also been following his career for almost 18yrs now.

-Yes, Samir still looks good, but is a shadow of the man that won the 1983 Mr O.
-You have your years mixed up...Haney last competed in 1991, where he DID defeat Yates, but that was Yate's first Mr O. In 1992 Yates won his first Mr O, and Lou cameback and placed 12th I believe. In 1993, Yates won again, and Lou came in 10th. That was Lou's final year, although he did do the Master's O in 94. Yates of course retired undefeated.

jaim91 · 06-14-2004, 06:23 AM

You can't expect him to have the same phsyique now as he did back in 1983....

Johnnny · 06-14-2004, 07:40 AM

Gopro

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You have your years mixed up...Haney last competed in 1991, where he DID defeat Yates, but that was Yate's first Mr O. In 1992 Yates won his first Mr O, and Lou cameback and placed 12th I believe.

I should've been more clear as I put an & inbetween Dorian & Yates. What I meant was both of them lost to Lee Haney but not at the same time.

But Dorian did retire undefeated. I personally think that first Mr. O for him he looked his best at what was it 210 or 220lbs ripped than a huge 265lbs ripped. For me it's cool & all that he's that huge & ripped, but for me good shape at a descent weight is much more appealing.

But you didn't answer my question at the bottom of that reply I said:
"How hard would it be for a guy such as myself not working for such a company to meet Arnold or Lou? Personally I've always wanted to met him as he is my idol. It was b/c of him as well as football that I turned my physique & life around. & I'd like to tell him what an impact he had on me. I've also been following his career for almost 18yrs now".

I am asking as you've had the pleasure of meeting Arnold.

jaim91

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You can't expect him to have the same phsyique now as he did back in 1983....

Gee really?

I was only saying that even now he still looks good for his age.

**gopro** · 06-14-2004, 11:59 AM

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I should've been more clear as I put an & inbetween Dorian & Yates. What I meant was both of them lost to Lee Haney but not at the same time.

But Dorian did retire undefeated. I personally think that first Mr. O for him he looked his best at what was it 210 or 220lbs ripped than a huge 265lbs ripped. For me it's cool & all that he's that huge & ripped, but for me good shape at a descent weight is much more appealing.

But you didn't answer my question at the bottom of that reply I said:
"How hard would it be for a guy such as myself not working for such a company to meet Arnold or Lou? Personally I've always wanted to met him as he is my idol. It was b/c of him as well as football that I turned my physique & life around. & I'd like to tell him what an impact he had on me. I've also been following his career for almost 18yrs now".

I am asking as you've had the pleasure of meeting Arnold.

jaim91

Gee really?

I was only saying that even now he still looks good for his age.

Dorian weighed about 240 for his first Mr O and won in 1992 at 242. He then exploded the following year to 257, which was his best ever in my opinion.

Yes, Samir still looks fantastic and actually made a comeback to the stage about a month ago. However, he was way off condition and did not place. Still, for a man in his 40s he looks unbelievable.

Meeting Arnold is very difficult these days, but Lou attends most of the big shows to sell his pics and stuff, so its not hard to meet him really. He is not very nice though. He will not sign and autograph for free, or take a pic unless he is paid. I don't like his attitude at all.

Johnnny · 06-14-2004, 12:58 PM

gopro

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Dorian weighed about 240 for his first Mr O and won in 1992 at 242. He then exploded the following year to 257, which was his best ever in my opinion.

yes he was 240lbs against Lee Haney. I made a mistake, in 1985 he was 210lbs & then 2yrs later 220lbs & it was after these 2 shows that he recieved his IFBB pro card. I have the Blood & Guts movie on CD rom & it was 1985 when he weighed 210lbs. I think he looked much better back then if you asked me. There's big & then there's too much.

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Yes, Samir still looks fantastic and actually made a comeback to the stage about a month ago. However, he was way off condition and did not place. Still, for a man in his 40s he looks unbelievable.

He's still competing? I didn't know that. But all I can say is for his age he still looks good even if he doesn't win in his comeback shows.

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Meeting Arnold is very difficult these days, but Lou attends most of the big shows to sell his pics and stuff, so its not hard to meet him really. He is not very nice though. He will not sign and autograph for free, or take a pic unless he is paid. I don't like his attitude at all.

So I guess meeting Arnold is out of the question at least for another couple of years when his govenorship is finished?

I also heard Arnold charges to get his picture taken with you & autographed I heard $60 US.

How much does Lou Ferrigno charge? But yeah I don't like that attitude either. What is he asking $100 a picture? Personally I think it's a bit petty with the amount of money these 2 guys have if Arnold actually charges or not.

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 01:04 PM

I just read that Arnold signed on as editor in chief of Muscle & Fitness and Flex magazines.

nikegurl · 06-14-2004, 01:12 PM

I've heard the same thing about Lou. However, I've never seen him at an expo or contest. I did see him a couple of times when I was training at Gold's Venice. He was very nice and approachable and spoke with me briefly there - so it could be he's in "business" mode at the shows.

I've also heard people blame it all on his wife (seriously). I have no idea if there's any truth in it - but he was very nice at the gym.

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 01:31 PM

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I've also heard people blame it all on his wife (seriously). I have no idea if there's any truth in it - but he was very nice at the gym.

very possible, Lou is certainly no genius, she is probably the reason that he makes money.

Johnnny · 06-14-2004, 01:44 PM

nikegurl

Was it Arnold you met or Lou or both?

I sure wish I could meet Arnold as he's the reason I turned my physique & health around. Football was the 2nd reason. I'd love to tell Arnold what a positive impact he had on my life.

But I guess I won't have the chance to meet him. I guess there's no way to be in contact with him for this sort of thing?

I've been a loyal fan & have been following his career since I was about 8yrs old which would be 18yrs & I also took the time to look into his past as well.

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 01:55 PM

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I've heard the same thing about Lou.

I think by the first sentence we can infer that she met Lou.

Johnnny · 06-14-2004, 02:07 PM

Robert DiMaggio

I was just making sure.

**gopro** · 06-14-2004, 02:15 PM

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yes he was 240lbs against Lee Haney. I made a mistake, in 1985 he was 210lbs & then 2yrs later 220lbs & it was after these 2 shows that he recieved his IFBB pro card. I have the Blood & Guts movie on CD rom & it was 1985 when he weighed 210lbs. I think he looked much better back then if you asked me. There's big & then there's too much.

He's still competing? I didn't know that. But all I can say is for his age he still looks good even if he doesn't win in his comeback shows.

So I guess meeting Arnold is out of the question at least for another couple of years when his govenorship is finished?

I also heard Arnold charges to get his picture taken with you & autographed I heard $60 US.

How much does Lou Ferrigno charge? But yeah I don't like that attitude either. What is he asking $100 a picture? Personally I think it's a bit petty with the amount of money these 2 guys have if Arnold actually charges or not.

I don't know exactly how much Lou charges, but when I was at the Mr O last year and witnessed a little girl, maybe 8 years old, ask him to autograph a picture of him that she had, and he said no b/c she had to pay I lost all respect for him as a person. She said to him, "but I have no money," and he said, "well, then sorry." I wanted to go punch him in the face right then and there.

Randy · 06-14-2004, 02:25 PM

Come to California, he's our governor

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Originally Posted by Johnnny

nikegurl

Was it Arnold you met or Lou or both?

I sure wish I could meet Arnold as he's the reason I turned my physique & health around. Football was the 2nd reason. I'd love to tell Arnold what a positive impact he had on my life.

But I guess I won't have the chance to meet him. I guess there's no way to be in contact with him for this sort of thing?

I've been a loyal fan & have been following his career since I was about 8yrs old which would be 18yrs & I also took the time to look into his past as well.

Randy · 06-14-2004, 02:26 PM

Man this guy sounds like a real prick...
I lost respect for him just by hearing this story

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Originally Posted by gopro

I don't know exactly how much Lou charges, but when I was at the Mr O last year and witnessed a little girl, maybe 8 years old, ask him to autograph a picture of him that she had, and he said no b/c she had to pay I lost all respect for him as a person. She said to him, "but I have no money," and he said, "well, then sorry." I wanted to go punch him in the face right then and there.

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 02:53 PM

leave poor Louie alone, he has had to live in Arnold's shadow for his entire life, imagine how that must feel!

Randy · 06-14-2004, 02:58 PM

Poor Louie

**gopro** · 06-14-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

leave poor Louie alone, he has had to live in Arnold's shadow for his entire life, imagine how that must feel!

He's done just fine. And how can you refuse an 8 year old girl an autograph?

Randy · 06-14-2004, 04:03 PM

I guess that depends on the girl Gopro

Maybe she shot him in the head with a spit wad or something

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Originally Posted by gopro

He's done just fine. And how can you refuse an 8 year old girl an autograph?

**Mudge** · 06-14-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

I don't know exactly how much Lou charges, but when I was at the Mr O last year and witnessed a little girl, maybe 8 years old, ask him to autograph a picture of him that she had, and he said no b/c she had to pay I lost all respect for him as a person. She said to him, "but I have no money," and he said, "well, then sorry." I wanted to go punch him in the face right then and there.

You never know what he was thinking that day either, or how many times he has been scammed by little girls who were getting an autograph for daddy. Who fargin knows, but yeah either way it looks bad.

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

He's done just fine.

well, he obviously has not done that well, or he would not still be at these shows charging for autographs.

Johnnny · 06-14-2004, 04:53 PM

Gopro

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I don't know exactly how much Lou charges, but when I was at the Mr O last year and witnessed a little girl, maybe 8 years old, ask him to autograph a picture of him that she had, and he said no b/c she had to pay I lost all respect for him as a person. She said to him, "but I have no money," and he said, "well, then sorry." I wanted to go punch him in the face right then and there.

Well I used to admire him & the struggles he went through to get to what he accomplished, but from what you've just told me, I'm sorry but my respect for him has been greatly reduced.

What about Arnold? I heard he charges around $60 US just to get your picture taken with him & autographed. I don't know if it is true or not do you?

But if I had the chance to meet Arnold, tell him I've been following his career for the las 18yrs & that it was b/c of him that I turned from a small, weak & narrow 5ft7 220lb, 43 inch waist, to a 5ft10 227lbs with descent condition naturally for football & then struggled with my physique due to a newly developed hyprer thyroid condition losing 30lbs in 3-4 weeks & battling back to 210lbs re-developing my good condition & about half way back to where I was at 227lbs.

What do you think Arnold would do or say if someone like myself with my struggles? Do you think he'd even talk to me or just blow me off? Or we he charge me $80 US for an autographed pictured with him?

**Prince** · 06-14-2004, 05:00 PM

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What do you think Arnold would do or say if someone like myself with my struggles? Do you think he'd even talk to me or just blow me off? Or we he charge me $80 US for an autographed pictured with him?

First of all I doubt you could get even get near him, if you did it would be for a 3 second picture. You would not get the chance to have a lengthy conversation.

I once saw him doing pics (on TV) and it looked like an assembly line, they

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nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	I've heard the same thing about Lou. However, I've never seen him at an expo or contest. I did see him a couple of times when I was training at Gold's Venice. He was very nice and approachable and spoke with me briefly there - so it could be he's in "business" mode at the shows. I've also heard people blame it all on his wife (seriously). I have no idea if there's any truth in it - but he was very nice at the gym.
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Johnnny Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,844	nikegurl Was it Arnold you met or Lou or both? I sure wish I could meet Arnold as he's the reason I turned my physique & health around. Football was the 2nd reason. I'd love to tell Arnold what a positive impact he had on my life. But I guess I won't have the chance to meet him. I guess there's no way to be in contact with him for this sort of thing? I've been a loyal fan & have been following his career since I was about 8yrs old which would be 18yrs & I also took the time to look into his past as well.

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