ever hit a squat or deadlift wall?

o-dub · 05-13-2004, 07:14 AM

i know many people have hit a bench wall where they say they cant get any stronger, but i was wondering if any of you have ever hit a squat or deadlift wall?

KataMaStEr · 05-13-2004, 07:22 AM

Not with my squat or deadlift. The only thing I found myself not making any improvement once was bench, very frustrating but after you get past it’s all good.

Premo55 · 05-13-2004, 10:43 AM

Well. My squat has been static for a while, which I largely attribute to the fact that I'm cutting, which is weird, because my bench, my clean and jerk, snatch and deadlift totals are all going up.

Peace.

Deeznuts · 05-13-2004, 11:06 AM

My squat's been stuck, but im changing up my routine a little to assist.

Todd Bostrom · 05-14-2004, 04:08 AM

Cycle the weights from moderate to heavy with a 5x5 program over 10-14 weeks. Squat and deadlift twice a week during the first half of the training program and once a week during the second half.

**CowPimp** · 05-14-2004, 02:33 PM

Thankfully, I haven't yet. However, my bench has hit a wall once already, and although I recently broke past it the gains are coming very slowly.

Saturday Fever · 05-14-2004, 06:00 PM

Identify where the wall is on a lift, and train to overcome that weakness. If you don't know how to train the weakness, ask.

Rich46yo · 05-14-2004, 07:35 PM

Since I started pounding the creatine, and increasing my protein, I got by my biceps wall. I took some advice from here and started "shocking" my Bi's with low weight/high rep sets mixed in with my heavi sets. I also started taking a 2nd day off altogether instead of only occasionaly taking two days off a week, "those are days of complete rest".

My squats have always been good. I like to shock them with a medium weight lift that I reach wipe out at 12 to 15 reps. You might also want to try some elevation on your heels..........take care.........Rich

Yanick · 05-14-2004, 07:50 PM

i wouldn't elevate the heels, if you can't get deep without elevatings stretch your calves.

Can't say i hit a wall...ever. If i'm eating enough and my training is spot on...i usually make pretty consistent gains.

This is my theory here...i think most people never hit a wall on deads/squats is because they are a very taxing exercise and most people don't work anywhere close to their potential in these exercises.

**CowPimp** · 05-14-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yanick
i wouldn't elevate the heels, if you can't get deep without elevatings stretch your calves.

Can't say i hit a wall...ever. If i'm eating enough and my training is spot on...i usually make pretty consistent gains.

This is my theory here...i think most people never hit a wall on deads/squats is because they are a very taxing exercise and most people don't work anywhere close to their potential in these exercises.

This may be true, but I also think it is harder to hit a wall because there are so many muscles involved in making the lift happen. If one muscle is lagging behind, then the others involved can compensate. Granted, everyone has their limits, but these are probably some of the reasons bench press is limited more often than deadlifts or squats.

Yanick · 05-14-2004, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by CowPimp
This may be true, but I also think it is harder to hit a wall because there are so many muscles involved in making the lift happen. If one muscle is lagging behind, then the others involved can compensate. Granted, everyone has their limits, but these are probably some of the reasons bench press is limited more often than deadlifts or squats.

Thats a good point as well. I don't consider it a PR unless my form is spot on. For example if i try a weight that i've never done before on squats and i dip forward i don't really consider it a PR. I realize its okay to get sloppy in competition because you are going all out balls to the wall so to say, but when lifting for yourself you have to keep it consistent.

altern08 · 05-19-2004, 10:34 PM

Use two days to train squat and deadlift (they're both related). Day one, train for sheer strength: cycle romanian deadlifts, low box squats, and deadlifts themselves for 2 weeks each slowly building up to a new PR each workout. Day two, do speed work using the parallel box squat for 8 sets of 2 reps (45 seconds rest between sets) starting at 50% of full squat 1RM on week one (ie. 400 lbs squatter does 200 lbs) and moving up 2.5% each week until you hit 62.5% on week 6 . . . . the weight should fly up. An example of this kind of workout is on www.westside-barbell.com. good luck.

05-13-2004, 07:14 AM	#1
o-dub Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 47 Photos: 3	ever hit a squat or deadlift wall? i know many people have hit a bench wall where they say they cant get any stronger, but i was wondering if any of you have ever hit a squat or deadlift wall?

05-13-2004, 10:43 AM	#3
Premo55 Mic Murderer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,059	Well. My squat has been static for a while, which I largely attribute to the fact that I'm cutting, which is weird, because my bench, my clean and jerk, snatch and deadlift totals are all going up. Peace.
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Todd Bostrom Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: United States Posts: 31	Cycle the weights from moderate to heavy with a 5x5 program over 10-14 weeks. Squat and deadlift twice a week during the first half of the training program and once a week during the second half.
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CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,405	Thankfully, I haven't yet. However, my bench has hit a wall once already, and although I recently broke past it the gains are coming very slowly.
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05-13-2004, 07:22 AM	#2
KataMaStEr -==♠==- Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,960 Photos: 6	Not with my squat or deadlift. The only thing I found myself not making any improvement once was bench, very frustrating but after you get past it’s all good.

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Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Identify where the wall is on a lift, and train to overcome that weakness. If you don't know how to train the weakness, ask.
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05-14-2004, 07:35 PM	#8
Rich46yo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 861	Since I started pounding the creatine, and increasing my protein, I got by my biceps wall. I took some advice from here and started "shocking" my Bi's with low weight/high rep sets mixed in with my heavi sets. I also started taking a 2nd day off altogether instead of only occasionaly taking two days off a week, "those are days of complete rest". My squats have always been good. I like to shock them with a medium weight lift that I reach wipe out at 12 to 15 reps. You might also want to try some elevation on your heels..........take care.........Rich
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05-14-2004, 07:50 PM	#9
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	i wouldn't elevate the heels, if you can't get deep without elevatings stretch your calves. Can't say i hit a wall...ever. If i'm eating enough and my training is spot on...i usually make pretty consistent gains. This is my theory here...i think most people never hit a wall on deads/squats is because they are a very taxing exercise and most people don't work anywhere close to their potential in these exercises.
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05-19-2004, 10:34 PM	#12
altern08 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11	Use two days to train squat and deadlift (they're both related). Day one, train for sheer strength: cycle romanian deadlifts, low box squats, and deadlifts themselves for 2 weeks each slowly building up to a new PR each workout. Day two, do speed work using the parallel box squat for 8 sets of 2 reps (45 seconds rest between sets) starting at 50% of full squat 1RM on week one (ie. 400 lbs squatter does 200 lbs) and moving up 2.5% each week until you hit 62.5% on week 6 . . . . the weight should fly up. An example of this kind of workout is on www.westside-barbell.com. good luck.
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