Plasma

CJMAJOR · 11-29-2001, 09:34 PM

Does anyone know if their are any affects on muscle gain if someone donates plasma. I know plasma is the water in your blood so if i donate plasma will it affect my muscle gain?

**Prince** · 11-30-2001, 09:59 AM

If you're just donating it once, then it should not have any effect. If you plan on donating every 6 weeks, then I think that could hinder muscle gains.

How often to your plan on donating?

**gopro** · 11-30-2001, 05:58 PM

You would be fine if done once or twice per year.

CJMAJOR · 11-30-2001, 10:28 PM

Well I have friends that donate sometimes twice a week

**gopro** · 12-01-2001, 02:59 PM

WOW....

ALBOB · 12-06-2001, 12:09 PM

OK, let's back up folks. This is an area I have a lot of experience in, it's called Apheresis. Donating plasma is not entirely correct, you're actually donating platelets (white blood cells) which are merely carried in plasma. The amount of blood plasma extracted is very small. The process is different from donating whole blood in that you have a needle in each arm simultaneously. One needle extracts whole blood and sends it to the seperating maching where the platelets and a small amount of plasma are extracted. The red blood cells and remaining plasma are sent back into your body via the second needle. The whole process takes about two hours to extract a pint of platelets. The reason for doing this is to donate to cancer/lukemia patients who's bone marrow isn't capable of producing platelets. When you donate whole blood only about a tablespoon of platelets can be extracted from your donated pint. When you donate whole blood you are donating almost entirely red blood cells and they are the ones that take the longest for the body to reproduce. That's why you can only donate whole blood every six weeks. Apheresis, on the other hand, can be done every five days because a healthy body produces platelets very rapidly. Hope that clears up some confusion.

ALBOB · 12-06-2001, 12:14 PM

OOPS. I completely forgot about the original question. I have a standing appointment to donate platelets once a week and have been doing so for about ten years. No effects on muscle gains that I've seen. Just drink plenty of water. (But you're doing that anyway, right?)

**gopro** · 12-06-2001, 04:29 PM

Good post ALBOB! I was really thinking in terms of whole blood. You are correct in what you are saying, and you said it well. Thanks for picking it up.

CJMAJOR · 12-06-2001, 05:33 PM

Actually i have experienced a different procedure. They use one need and draw out about 1-2 pints of blood in the machine and cycle out the plasma. Then they shoot that blood back into your body. This process is done approximately 10-15 times and they take about a 1-1 1/2qts. out through the procedure. And you really have to be careful when you lift. I waited 3 days and i still ended up opening the vein back up.

ALBOB · 12-07-2001, 09:08 AM

HMM, sounds like the same thing but with a single needle. I'm thinking the part about opening up veins three days later is due more to your healing ability. Different people take different times to heal. Just like recovering from weights.

n8stanek · 02-18-2004, 05:36 PM

I think there is a little confusion in this thread. I donated plasma today and got to wondering on how it would affect my recovery. here are my questions/concerns that only an MD could probably answer: from what I understand ( as a student of biology ) Is that blood PLASMA is mostly water but contains a number of tiny componsents such as blood proteins. when you donate plasma, the red/white blood cells and plateles are separated in a centrifuge and pumped back into the blood. So today, for example, they took about 830 mL (based on bodyweight) from me. My concern is about the blood proteins. Are these the same proteins that rebuild my muscles during recovery ? If so, how many grams per liter is being lost and is this affecting my recovery?

As far as the wound re-opening in the gymn, that happens from an increase in blood pressure during exercise and depends on how well you clot.

11-29-2001, 09:34 PM	#1
CJMAJOR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 103	Plasma Does anyone know if their are any affects on muscle gain if someone donates plasma. I know plasma is the water in your blood so if i donate plasma will it affect my muscle gain?
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11-30-2001, 09:59 AM	#2
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,509 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	If you're just donating it once, then it should not have any effect. If you plan on donating every 6 weeks, then I think that could hinder muscle gains. How often to your plan on donating?
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11-30-2001, 05:58 PM	#3
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,496	You would be fine if done once or twice per year.
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11-30-2001, 10:28 PM	#4
CJMAJOR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 103	Well I have friends that donate sometimes twice a week
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12-01-2001, 02:59 PM	#5
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,496	WOW....
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12-06-2001, 12:09 PM	#6
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,112	OK, let's back up folks. This is an area I have a lot of experience in, it's called Apheresis. Donating plasma is not entirely correct, you're actually donating platelets (white blood cells) which are merely carried in plasma. The amount of blood plasma extracted is very small. The process is different from donating whole blood in that you have a needle in each arm simultaneously. One needle extracts whole blood and sends it to the seperating maching where the platelets and a small amount of plasma are extracted. The red blood cells and remaining plasma are sent back into your body via the second needle. The whole process takes about two hours to extract a pint of platelets. The reason for doing this is to donate to cancer/lukemia patients who's bone marrow isn't capable of producing platelets. When you donate whole blood only about a tablespoon of platelets can be extracted from your donated pint. When you donate whole blood you are donating almost entirely red blood cells and they are the ones that take the longest for the body to reproduce. That's why you can only donate whole blood every six weeks. Apheresis, on the other hand, can be done every five days because a healthy body produces platelets very rapidly. Hope that clears up some confusion.
	Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

12-06-2001, 12:14 PM	#7
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,112	OOPS. I completely forgot about the original question. I have a standing appointment to donate platelets once a week and have been doing so for about ten years. No effects on muscle gains that I've seen. Just drink plenty of water. (But you're doing that anyway, right?)
	Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

12-06-2001, 04:29 PM	#8
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,496	Good post ALBOB! I was really thinking in terms of whole blood. You are correct in what you are saying, and you said it well. Thanks for picking it up.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-06-2001, 05:33 PM	#9
CJMAJOR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 103	Actually i have experienced a different procedure. They use one need and draw out about 1-2 pints of blood in the machine and cycle out the plasma. Then they shoot that blood back into your body. This process is done approximately 10-15 times and they take about a 1-1 1/2qts. out through the procedure. And you really have to be careful when you lift. I waited 3 days and i still ended up opening the vein back up.
CJMAJOR Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 103

12-07-2001, 09:08 AM	#10
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,112	HMM, sounds like the same thing but with a single needle. I'm thinking the part about opening up veins three days later is due more to your healing ability. Different people take different times to heal. Just like recovering from weights.
	Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

02-18-2004, 05:36 PM	#11
n8stanek Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: columbia, mo Posts: 1	I think there is a little confusion in this thread. I donated plasma today and got to wondering on how it would affect my recovery. here are my questions/concerns that only an MD could probably answer: from what I understand ( as a student of biology ) Is that blood PLASMA is mostly water but contains a number of tiny componsents such as blood proteins. when you donate plasma, the red/white blood cells and plateles are separated in a centrifuge and pumped back into the blood. So today, for example, they took about 830 mL (based on bodyweight) from me. My concern is about the blood proteins. Are these the same proteins that rebuild my muscles during recovery ? If so, how many grams per liter is being lost and is this affecting my recovery? As far as the wound re-opening in the gymn, that happens from an increase in blood pressure during exercise and depends on how well you clot.

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