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Old 05-31-2004, 08:30 AM   #181
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Old 05-31-2004, 05:44 PM   #182
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He isn't worth anymore of my replys.....It falls upon deaf ears. Good Luck.
I don't know what I was thinking actually wasting all that time responding to your crap when I could've been on an actually productive thread. & I don't give a rats a$$ what you think of me as you know f^Ck all about me or what I know. You don't know everything yourself & if you think you do, you're sadly mistaken.


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I will not comment on steriods as I do not know enough about them to do so. But I do know you can get shredded with the proper diet without the use of steriods. Cardio and Diet does wonders. Once you hit the point that the diet isn't working, it requires a little tweaking to get in motion again.
Like I said most ppl I've seen wherever I had been & whatever gym I've been to, anyone who was shredded was on the type of compounds I mentioned previously & other hormones. Whether they were 170lbs or 270lbs ripped, they were on juice to get that way. I believe you can get into really good condition whatever size you are & whatever weight you are, but to get really shredded requires extra help.


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So your saying that an Ectomorph couldn't get shredded without the use of hormones? How sad. You do need to go back to that guy with the so called 30 yrs of experience.
I never said an ectomorph couldn't get shredded without hormones & steroids.
Personally I think you're the one who is really sad & I think you should take some advice from the guy with true 30yrs experience. I've seen ectomorphs get really lean & hard w/o steroids, but I've seen ppl that are ectomorphs needing steroids to get shredded. It's common knowledge that you can only grow so much or get so shredded naturally therefore needing steroids to break the plateau despite whatever body type you are. I don't know everything about steroids, but I've learned a lot from my buddies who've taken them as they always offered it to me but I declined, & I've done my research on them & learned an awful lot.


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Old 05-31-2004, 07:25 PM   #183
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I don't need to take advice from your guy who has 30 so called years of experience. I've been doing this long enough to know how my body responds to my diet and training program. I can take myself from being 20% bodyfat down to less than 8% NATURALLY in 16 weeks, too bad you can't say that yourself. At least I see results for what I do instead of screaming about some guys 30 yrs of experience, which evidently hasn't done much for you. Why not show us YOUR results.



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Old 05-31-2004, 10:45 PM   #184
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dats a good burn if i eva heard one
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Posted By Johnnny:

"I believe you can get into really good condition whatever size you are & whatever weight you are, but to get really shredded requires extra help"


"I never said an ectomorph couldn't get shredded without hormones & steroids"


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hmm...so you are contradicting yourself here....or at least you should realize from your own words that everyone is different and that you cant make blanket statements about what will or will not work for a certain person nor can you say what type of condition a person can get into without steroids.

It is so varied that no one routine or diet will work for everybody....once again why it is called PERSONAL training.

the list of possible ways to train is exhausting but just for example:

Mike Mentzer grew great off of a HIT type program
Arnold responded better to higher reps and sets
Skip LaCour does well o HIT programs
Jon Lawson does better on high reps and sets

skip can get eat 4000 calories a day and stay ripped....jon lawson needs to drop to around 2000 calories to get ripped but they are relatively close in weight and body type.....hmm.....individuality?




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I wish I was mod. I'd have killed this thread days ago.



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Old 06-01-2004, 12:49 PM   #187
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I would close it Saturday but I'm not a mod. in this section. Enough is enough.



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