Back and front definition..

**moment** · 12-08-2001, 11:29 AM

i've been doing about 500 crunches- of various styles for a while now, and I've gotten some definition and definitely more mass in my abs, but I can't seem to lose that little hula-hoop of fat.....
I'm A very srict vegetarian(I mostly eat fruits and veggies, occasionally nuts, carbs usually in the morning, I try to eat dinner early, I only drink organic 1% or 2% milk and organic cheese a few times a week. As you can see- very little fat. not a lot of sugars- except for the fruits and juices I drink....
I work out on average five days a week, about 1 hour intensively and another hour not so intensively, per day.

What can I possibly do to define my stomach/back more?
It's been like two years of this routine.... and when I feel I reach a plateau, I push harder....

Help!

**ballast** · 12-08-2001, 12:55 PM

Try adjusting your diet.That's the best way to achieve better definition.And 500 crunches!?Try doing sets of 20 reps or less(with weight if need be).The abs are a muscle like the lats or quads.Train them in a similair fashion.

**moment** · 12-09-2001, 08:53 AM

twenty crunches doesn't feel like I'm doing anything.
i do regular crunches(200), side to side crunches(100), raised leg crunches(100), leg/head lifts(100). I feel like I could easily do more- I've always been like that. Pushups is a different story- I have yet to break the 100 mark.
I think I lost some weight/gained definition yesterday- 2hours, almost non stop at our dojo.

I don't know how else to adjust my diet.... I could start swallowing air for breakfast, I guess.

**ballast** · 12-09-2001, 11:13 AM

OK

**Prince** · 12-09-2001, 04:58 PM

Just to get one thing clear, crunches have nothing to do with definition. It's all diet.

As far as losing that extra fat, how is your protein intake?

**moment** · 12-14-2001, 07:19 PM

Fine. I don't neglect something as serious as that.
The only thing I can think of is my carbohydrate intake.
Could that effect my weight much?
I try to keep my carb. intake(breads, pasta, etc.) low after breakfast..... but I will admit I'm not ALWAYS successful(Pizza, pasta, Lasagne, etc.).

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**TrackManDave** · 12-21-2001, 01:19 PM

Ok, cleaning up your diet has been sad. As for the crunches, if you do them weighted with a 5 second count each way, a set of 20 willl feel like a bitch, especially if you hold the peak for 5 seconds also

**TrackManDave** · 12-21-2001, 01:20 PM

and that Italian food cant help. How often do you cheat?

**mrbig** · 12-21-2001, 09:47 PM

its not about how many reps its about the intensity that is put into them

**gopro** · 12-22-2001, 03:43 PM

If nothing else...drop the fruit and fruit juices, increase your protein, and watch the fat melt off.

**Tank316** · 12-23-2001, 06:11 AM

omg,,whats fruit juice,,theyre still making that stuff,oh ya its called pure cane sugar from hawaii yukkk

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