Sounds like plenty of increase to me. That's about as good as you're going to get. Your gains are going to get a lot slower, believe me. Beginner gains are great, but they don't last for longer than 6-12 months. At least they didn't for me.
Well, I see how results vary per person but how do these sound? I was around 115 lbs at the begining of this year. I started off doing push ups/sit ups, and running. Once I purchased some weight lifting equipment I got hooked on it. In November my max bench was like 130. Right now, as of today, I weigh in about 135-140 lbs at 5'4. I'd say my body fat is low, I can see all my abs and even veins in the bottom of them. My 1RM is prolly around 210-215 right now, I haven't checked. Last training day I did 4x4 of 195 and it wasn't a struggle. Now what I want to know is, should I have progressed faster? Or is this an ok rate? I'll try to get pictures up, all I have in the gallery are my old ones from around Oct.
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Sounds like plenty of increase to me. That's about as good as you're going to get. Your gains are going to get a lot slower, believe me. Beginner gains are great, but they don't last for longer than 6-12 months. At least they didn't for me.
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Sublim....you are doing awsome! 195lbs for 4x4 is great and way above what you were doing before!! Hang in there and stick to the program that we have written and you are defenitly going to blow through 200lbs before....trust me!!
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Thanks guys, and thanks p-funk without your help my routine would prolly suck right now.![]()
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Okay I am 15 years old I can bench 225, squat 405 many times, dead lift 375, leg press 400, i run a 40 in 4.8, i weigh 175 lbs, and i am a sophmore in high school. I was wondering if this is a good ability to do this much at the age of 15. Oh and i do football and track. I throw Discus and shot in track and in football i am a fullback and linebacker. I would like to know some good tips to raise me bench and all of that if u can help me i would appreciate u emailing me at jl.dove@insightbb.com and if u think that this is good to be this strong at 15 please email me also . THANKS ALOT PEACE OUT
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holy crap batman!
That's awesome! subliminal, your weight is 135-140 and your 1rep bench max is 200??
Damn, I wish mine was that good!
Time to get back to work! I've been slacking!
How normal is this? I mean to bench almost twice your weight? How many of you can do it? Maybe a stupid question..
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You have p-funk write you a strength programOriginally Posted by Pierzin
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Stop spamming this egotistical shit in every single thread.Originally Posted by jld2789
aka: fuck off.
Those stats aren't that outstanding. Pathetic piece of shit.Originally Posted by jld2789
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Bench - 235
Deadlift - 315 X 17
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Jackass.Originally Posted by Pierzin
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Personal Bests:
Bench - 235
Deadlift - 315 X 17
Squat - 315 X 11
40 yrd. - 4.65
hey sublim, how old are u, and whats ur routine?? ur begining stats are alot like mine and id sure like 2 gain like u.
Those are awesome results, Subliminal. I'm an inch taller than you and weigh about the same as you yet I cannot bench as much as you can.![]()
Yes, I agree they aren't amazing results. And I wasn't posting for my ego. I just wanted to see if I was progressing too slow. Im 17 years old, and my short arms add in to my bench? I suppose. Pfunk helped me alot, my bench liked rocketed up![]()
Thanks for the positive comments, and no thanks to that bitter guy.....
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1.5x my bodyweight for bench is about where I'm stuck, a double press would be tough unless you are short or wickedly gifted/juiced up. For me after some weight loss I would have to press 520 to hit double, not likely anytime soon.
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sublminal, monolith was talking to jld2789, not you. noone here has a beef with you, just this other jld2789 idiot
Sorry about the bitter remark then. But anyways, even with these lifts I feel really weak. This kid in my school was benching 260 for his 1rm and does like 200 lbs for reps. He is also in my weight class. I found out he has been lifting for a couple years now but on and off, but at one point was using something. Im still sort of small, I dont mind though, it catches people off guard
. I've been thinking about going westside to gain more strength, maybe i'll impliment it before the summer is over.
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hey, when i started going to the gym, i could barely put up 95 pounds. dont worry about it man. im no longer the smallest or weakest guy there. it takes time. forget about what others can do and focus on your own gains.
I see what your saying man. Well today I was testing some stuff out... went as follows.....
200x4 reps for 3 sets
210x4 reps for 1 set
230x4 reps for 1 set.
I guess im ganna have to find out what my 1RM is soon.
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this will give you a good idea
dood according to that its 250...no way I can lift that much, well maybe. I've made alot of progress but Im afraid one day its ganna turn into a bad dream and I'll be back down to 130.....how much would that suck!![]()
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maybe you can.....
hey, i had back surgery last september 10. needless to say it wasnt until a few weeks ago that i got back into the gym consistently. my 1rm went from 215 to like 175 :S fortunately, its climbing againso, i dont think ull drop that much
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On top of that, I also did chin ups today, then afterwards biceps..was that a bad move? It felt like the chin ups drained my biceps/brachialis? maybe I had bad form?
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If you can do 230 for 4 you can definitely put up 250.
nope, chinups are biceps workers, too. that's why i do back 2 days before biceps. gives them time to rest, my biceps get a good workout on back day. also why i go
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such that one body part isnt being worked twice in a row.
Sublim....these numbers are awsome for your age, size and weight. You have totally shattered your old bench press personal best from where we started form. Way to go. I can't believe you are already benching this heavy!!Originally Posted by Subliminal
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Yeah P-Funk, im still totally amazed I can bench this much. I've just been taking my time going up and noticed how much I've been benching lately. All my other numbers went up also. Like I said I never really worked my legs because I was a moron.......a complete moron. But my squat went up just as good as my bench. Im trying to get some pics up... my old pics make me look like a twig, but of course I was back then.....haha![]()
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Hypothesis:
Ok well I think it started this morning. I didn't have time to eat anything since I woke up late and had to head out almost right the second I woke up. So I ate nothing from 6 a.m till like 11ish. When I got home I ate all I had left...cottage cheese..not alot only like 2 table spoons left. (yeh I forgot to go shopping this week) I got a new digital camera so I was posing to take pics, Im not sure what flexing does but I decided to add it in. Well anyways I went to lift at around 4:00 pm. Now this is where I got depressed......well angry. I went straight to 250 bench press, I held it for a second at the top and then brought it down. Once it touched my chest I only managed to push it up about 1 or 2 inches off my chest with my own power and I managed to get one rep with my two spotters slightly helping. I was mad, and to make it worse my friend ryan ( spotter #2 ) was like , " Yeah, I think we got that up instead of you". So I was kinda mad. I tried 250 again, failed once more, but this time I held it at the two inches above my chest for like 5 seconds just trying to push it up. I then lowered the weight to 135, did it x10 for like a late warm up cuz it was what my friends were benching. I added in two more sets like an idiot cuz I wanted my chest to be the way it was before and I managed to do 183 3x3. Now my friends bench failed kinda as bad as mine did today also. We're thinking it could be that we're over training. Monday we did explosives for our chest. What do you guys think the problem is? I was also thinking about changing the days around and making monday the heavy day for my chest so after sat-sun Its fully rested. Any input would be great...Im still kinda mad that I failed so miserably on top of that, the pictures I took came out blurry and large as hell, they are a discrace to the gallery..
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So you only ate 2 tablespoons of cottage cheese all day, and then tried to set a 30lb bench PR???
and some crackers oh and a glass of milk....yeah Im a moron. But would that really affect me so much???? And if I eat right, on the next heavy day will I have to build back up to that weight again?
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lol
Yeah, theres no way youre gonna have the energy to hit a PR with that kind of shitbucket diet.
You should also be warming up before you try for that PR, not just walking into the gym and putting your head under 250lbs. Not only is it dangerous, but it will hinder your attempt.