jadakris31

two questions in here ...

1. for some reason i seem to get more sore then anyone else i know... ive heard that the longer you lift (like months and years not actual time in gym) the less sore you get.... for me that seems untrue ...

my chest gets the most sore of all my muscles -
over the summer im trying a new routine to help possibly put some more mass on my chest lifting chest monday and thursday 6 sets each day (12 total in the week) with different rep ranges over those two days then the next week going higher and higher (2-6)(6-8)(8-12)(shock/speed) .. and on my workout 1 which is all power seems to be the worse .. i get sore and im still a bit sore by thursday .. not HORRIBLE but without a question sore... is it ok to do still do my 6 sets of chest on thursday .. and after thursday i have 3 days of rest (fri sat sun off) ... so would that be ok?

2. i read in some wierd magazine GNC sent me that soreness is fine to have but muscle inflammation is horrible but it didnt say how you could tell the difference between the two.. so is that true? and if it is how could i tell the difference?

thanks all input and expierences are welcome

DeadBolt

Soreness of muscles is the lactic acid buildup which is caused by the lack of oxygen (feel the burn!!!!!!!), the actual soreness the next few days is the healing of the muscles. Muscle inflammation is when you damage a muscle so to speak. It becomes sore, much weaker, and becomes very hot causing a much greater pain. It is almsot like an irritation of the muscle rather then just being sore. Its a more extreme muscle repair time. It inflames to prevent infection, b/c bacteria dies at a higher temperature.

I have worked muscles twice a week and ended up being sore the second day. I still noticed plenty of quality growth. I am always sore now with following p/rr/s and working 10 hour days of manual labor in the sun. I am still noticing my gains and results, sure I go to the gym a lil tired but I just kick it into overdrive and get plenty of rest. Try drinking some more water and maybe try some glutamine. The water rehydrates the muscles and keeps the soreness to a minimal amount and the glutamine helps to repair the muscles.

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CowPimp

I've lifted while I was still sore before. My strength has never even been affected by it. It has never caused problems for me, but I can say definitively from a scientific view that there is nothing wrong with it. My personal experience just tell me so.

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DimebagDarrell

drink more water.

o-dub

i never work out a muscles twice a week unless it doesnt get sore.

Prince

not only is soreness not necessary for hypertrophy, it can lead to overtraining. you should not getting a mucle(s) sore every work-out.

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o-dub

really really sore muscle = overtraining. muscle a little sore = good results.

IMO

LAM

that is a very old myth...DOMS is not caused by lactic acid buildup but by changes in muscle cell calcium homeostasis and an inflammatory response from micro trauma to skeletal muscle...

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What you talking about Willis ?

Rauschgift

If you are getting sore every workout I would cut back to working each muscle group 1x per week. More does not always = better.

DimebagDarrell

i like to feel a little bit after working out. it usually doesnt hit for about 24 hours though. and its not much, doesnt affect the way i do things. i notice, though, that if i dont feel anything, i dont make any gains.

jadakris31

ive dont each muslce once a week for psat like 2 years so i figured id change it up at least a little.. ive gotten sore after EVERY chest workout i think except if i ONLY do high reps (over 10 reps) ... now im doing 6 sets twice a week and i get sore... alot MORE sore when im going heavy .. under 6 reps...

jadakris31

so what do you guys think?

i train to failure on about half my sets... dont do negatives or very few forced reps....

i drink plenty of water.... how could i change my traning so i wont get so sore? my chest is by far the worst... my routine looks like this right now

mon

flat bench 1 x 2, 1 x 3, 1 x 4
Incline Dumbells 3 x 6
(very sore)

thu
Decline Barbell 2 x 8, 1 x 6
Flat Dumbells 2 x 10, 1 x 8

mon
Incline Barbell 3 x 8-10
Peck Deck 3 x 12


thu
Speed Benching
2 Supersets .. cable crossover/decline smith


repeat

CowPimp

I didn't used to get sore every workout until I started P/RR/S. Now I get sore almost every workout.

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jadakris31

so whats the deal with soreness? how could i help prevent it on my chest workouts if its not that good for you?

jadakris31

bump... prince help me out

Var

There's a difference between PEMS (post exercise muscle soreness) and DOMS. DOMS is a cripling soreness. The kind where you can't sit on the toilet after leg day without using the wall as support. Not that I know the feeling.

Some mild soreness from working out is ok, but shouldnt be a goal. My guess is that if you're feeling extremely sore for a few days after training, its DOMS and IMO you should rest until it subsides.

To avoid it in the first place, you should be sure that you arent overtraining, are getting enough rest, and are eating properly.

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CowPimp

For some reason, my hamstrings and gluts are always sore for several days after my leg workouts. I was going to go to a different split next cycle which includes more sets for quads and hams, but I was thinking that if I already experience soreness at this level, then it might not be a good idea. Currently, I do 14 sets for my legs (6 for quads, 6 for hams, and 2 for calves). I was going to split my leg workout up throughout the days and do 8 sets for each part of the legs throughout the week. Do you think maybe I should keep my hams at 6, and instead do 8 sets for shoulders as opposed to 6?

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