Cardio pre-contest

kim · 07-01-2004, 07:30 AM

I'm really curious to know what is the big difference or issue when people are preparing for contest - vs - when they are not going for a show.

I have heard that for a comp show, the cardio might be increase 2 times a day, AM and PM and that it's better staying away from shake's or MRP and that has well fruits and dairy must get rid of their eating plan.

Are those guidelines are okay

**P-funk** · 07-01-2004, 09:01 AM

The difference between just dieting down for the hell of it and preping for a contest is that you have to completely deplete yourself for the contest in order to look as lean as possible. When you are just dieting down for something, say to look good in the summer, you don't have to kill yourself and can be a little more relaxed with your diet because there is no need to deplete.

kim · 07-01-2004, 09:16 AM

But let say, I'm not preparing for contest but if I will like to get leanear and leaner for around august and I follow the things that I read in my previous thread (first question), I guess that it might be a chance that I drop the fat much more faster than doing my hitt 3 times x week, weight training parts once a week and having my regular clean diet.
Or I'm just gonna try to kill my self for no big diffrence.

**Jodi** · 07-01-2004, 09:26 AM

Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body.

**Prince** · 07-01-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body.

it sucks.

kim · 07-01-2004, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body.

So it mean's that I will have to be patient unstead of driving my body crazy's. How low my BF should be to have real nice definition. I was looking to drop my BF until I see something's like JLB Abs

Oh well they might not be as nice and I know that her BF was pretty low, she is AWESOME, but at least IF I can see my abs WITHOUT contracting them, what BF should I approximatevly reach

I'll be patient but maybe do a little more cardio

**Jodi** · 07-01-2004, 10:10 AM

Abs have to do with genetics. JLB has some great plates. Unfortunately, some of us can reach her level of bodyfat and still not show abs like she does.

**P-funk** · 07-01-2004, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Abs have to do with genetics. JLB has some great plates. Unfortunately, some of us can reach her level of bodyfat and still not show abs like she does.

plates

**Jodi** · 07-01-2004, 10:48 AM

Did I say something wrong?

kim · 07-01-2004, 11:02 AM

I decided to give a trial of having my cardio's right after my weight training, to tap more into my cells fat while my glycogen will be depleted. Do you think, it will be taxing to much my muscle gains.

**P-funk** · 07-01-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Did I say something wrong?

no, just never hear the term plates used in reference to someone's stomach....it sounded funny to me.

**Pirate!** · 07-03-2004, 01:49 AM

Don't stay away from dairy as you mentioned initially. A steady intake of calcium limits the amount of fat your body stores from your meals. Doing cardio after weight training when glycogen is low is wonderful. The only better option is to do cardio before breakfast when your blood glucose is low. Your cardio should take place atleast 3 hours after your last meal either way--this insures lower blood glucose. Aim for 60-70% of max heart rate for atleast 30 min per session. And yes, cut back on high sugar stuff like fruit. Eat more protien like lean meat, legumes, and fat-free dairy.

JLB001 · 07-03-2004, 07:26 AM

Plates? someone say food? Does it have cake on it????

I have good abs, they show even when my bodyfat is higher. Now my legs...those suck!

Like Jodi has said, doing a comp diet is not healthy. It's very taxing on the the body and can become very difficult. We need up having to cut out alot of things that sometimes do not make any sense at all. Cardio twice a day because a serious pain in the rear, it can totally comsum your life easliy. If I had to choice between morning or afternoon cardio, I would do morning, as I feel so much better after doing it, it wakes me up and I don't feel like I am dragging the whole day. Have you thought of trying HIIT a couple times a week? It's a great cardio workout without having to spend every day in the gym.

There are ways to adjust a comp diet to better fit your goals, just have to up the calories, etc and incorporate foods that you like. Stuff to where you don't have to cut out fruit and shakes.

Hope this helps some. I just woke up and haven't had my diet coke yet. Let us know how things go or if you have questions!

kim · 07-05-2004, 12:13 PM

Okay, I think that I'm gonna be brave enough to send some pics here:

http://community.webshots.com/user/nicoouin

I don't know if I'm to hard with my self, if I want results to fast. Now with those 28 pounds drop since beginning of the year and now at 5'6" at 132 pounds, I think that I have build some nice muscle, of course I still have to work hard for transforming my body at 42 ages, I'm not sure about my BF, by those pictures what do you think. Am I getting now to obsessive, but I don't think so.

If I still work hard on everything. How Long - How Long - How long, will I succeed from where I stand right now.

I might be rambling or venting, but I'm working so hard. But I don't want to be discourage or give up. But it's so long.

Akateros · 07-05-2004, 01:13 PM

How long? Looks like you've done some succeeding already. Seriously, you're looking good. For your height, you're right in the ideal weight range, and by the pics, you actually appear to be.

Visible abs, for most women, is not a happy place to live. I'm looking at your "Dummy Abs" album, and I'm seeing a firm, flat belly with a bit of definition. I think you're being a bit unrealistic in your expectations, here. Apart from the rare and the genetically blessed, even female fitness models don't usually have Those Abs most of the time.

You could probably go on a comp-type diet, complete with cardio and no dairy, if you really wanted, and get the rippling sixer for long enough to get some pictures for posterity, then stay on the diet long enough to knock out some eyeballs at the beach. But you'll go crazy trying to keep that up.

kim · 07-05-2004, 02:01 PM

Yea, my stomach seem to be flat with some fats and I am right now for 5'6 in a good range of body weight 132 pounds, (with muscle) So does it mean that from where I am right now there is gonna be two possibility.

I keep training hard with weight and my hitt 3 x times/week and what it will do, well, I it will continue to increase my strengh with the add of some muscle.

So let say I don't do a kind of pre-contest diet, I keep everything like I do right now, is adding more muscle will make my fat shred away a little more, or my stomach will remain the same and the only thing that will happen with me is that I will only add more muscle.

So if my stomach seems to be almost flat, At 5'6" - 132 pounds, getting lower, it's almost impossible if I'm not looking to enter any kind of comp. So if I understand, I am now like stuck with the stomach until I decide to have that picture for PROSPERITY

Fit Freak · 07-05-2004, 03:02 PM

[quote[ Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body. [/quote]
Simply...WELL SAID

And yes...it sucks...in CAPITAL LETTERS

JLB001 · 07-05-2004, 03:07 PM

Kim you look great! So many people would love to look like you do right now. Keep doing what your doing, as you add muscle, the fat comes off as well.

kim · 07-05-2004, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLB001

Kim you look great! So many people would love to look like you do right now. Keep doing what your doing, as you add muscle, the fat comes off as well.

Sorry for my hard head

So building more muscle that I have right now, will help to burn more fat and this without getting into your crazy diet comp planning. So now it means that it's only a questions of patience and time to lower my BF and I will get throught it, but it's only gonna take more times instead of driving my self crazy.

Once again sorry for my

I might be to impatient and a kind of tired for being now into a 6 months cutting plan

07-01-2004, 07:30 AM	#1
kim Fit by 40 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canada Posts: 219 Photos: 5	Cardio pre-contest I'm really curious to know what is the big difference or issue when people are preparing for contest - vs - when they are not going for a show. I have heard that for a comp show, the cardio might be increase 2 times a day, AM and PM and that it's better staying away from shake's or MRP and that has well fruits and dairy must get rid of their eating plan. Are those guidelines are okay
	[b]kim - Fit by 43

07-01-2004, 09:01 AM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,573	The difference between just dieting down for the hell of it and preping for a contest is that you have to completely deplete yourself for the contest in order to look as lean as possible. When you are just dieting down for something, say to look good in the summer, you don't have to kill yourself and can be a little more relaxed with your diet because there is no need to deplete.
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07-01-2004, 09:16 AM	#3
kim Fit by 40 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canada Posts: 219 Photos: 5	But let say, I'm not preparing for contest but if I will like to get leanear and leaner for around august and I follow the things that I read in my previous thread (first question), I guess that it might be a chance that I drop the fat much more faster than doing my hitt 3 times x week, weight training parts once a week and having my regular clean diet. Or I'm just gonna try to kill my self for no big diffrence.
	[b]kim - Fit by 43

07-01-2004, 09:26 AM	#4
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body.
	Essence EFA

07-01-2004, 10:10 AM	#7
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Abs have to do with genetics. JLB has some great plates. Unfortunately, some of us can reach her level of bodyfat and still not show abs like she does.
	Essence EFA

07-01-2004, 10:48 AM	#9
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Did I say something wrong?
	Essence EFA

07-01-2004, 11:02 AM	#10
kim Fit by 40 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canada Posts: 219 Photos: 5	I decided to give a trial of having my cardio's right after my weight training, to tap more into my cells fat while my glycogen will be depleted. Do you think, it will be taxing to much my muscle gains.
	[b]kim - Fit by 43

07-03-2004, 01:49 AM	#12
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,757	Don't stay away from dairy as you mentioned initially. A steady intake of calcium limits the amount of fat your body stores from your meals. Doing cardio after weight training when glycogen is low is wonderful. The only better option is to do cardio before breakfast when your blood glucose is low. Your cardio should take place atleast 3 hours after your last meal either way--this insures lower blood glucose. Aim for 60-70% of max heart rate for atleast 30 min per session. And yes, cut back on high sugar stuff like fruit. Eat more protien like lean meat, legumes, and fat-free dairy.

07-03-2004, 07:26 AM	#13
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Plates? someone say food? Does it have cake on it???? I have good abs, they show even when my bodyfat is higher. Now my legs...those suck! Like Jodi has said, doing a comp diet is not healthy. It's very taxing on the the body and can become very difficult. We need up having to cut out alot of things that sometimes do not make any sense at all. Cardio twice a day because a serious pain in the rear, it can totally comsum your life easliy. If I had to choice between morning or afternoon cardio, I would do morning, as I feel so much better after doing it, it wakes me up and I don't feel like I am dragging the whole day. Have you thought of trying HIIT a couple times a week? It's a great cardio workout without having to spend every day in the gym. There are ways to adjust a comp diet to better fit your goals, just have to up the calories, etc and incorporate foods that you like. Stuff to where you don't have to cut out fruit and shakes. Hope this helps some. I just woke up and haven't had my diet coke yet. Let us know how things go or if you have questions!
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

07-05-2004, 12:13 PM	#14
kim Fit by 40 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canada Posts: 219 Photos: 5	Okay, I think that I'm gonna be brave enough to send some pics here: http://community.webshots.com/user/nicoouin I don't know if I'm to hard with my self, if I want results to fast. Now with those 28 pounds drop since beginning of the year and now at 5'6" at 132 pounds, I think that I have build some nice muscle, of course I still have to work hard for transforming my body at 42 ages, I'm not sure about my BF, by those pictures what do you think. Am I getting now to obsessive, but I don't think so. If I still work hard on everything. How Long - How Long - How long, will I succeed from where I stand right now. I might be rambling or venting, but I'm working so hard. But I don't want to be discourage or give up. But it's so long.
	[b]kim - Fit by 43

07-05-2004, 01:13 PM	#15
Akateros I read it someplace. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 481	How long? Looks like you've done some succeeding already. Seriously, you're looking good. For your height, you're right in the ideal weight range, and by the pics, you actually appear to be. Visible abs, for most women, is not a happy place to live. I'm looking at your "Dummy Abs" album, and I'm seeing a firm, flat belly with a bit of definition. I think you're being a bit unrealistic in your expectations, here. Apart from the rare and the genetically blessed, even female fitness models don't usually have Those Abs most of the time. You could probably go on a comp-type diet, complete with cardio and no dairy, if you really wanted, and get the rippling sixer for long enough to get some pictures for posterity, then stay on the diet long enough to knock out some eyeballs at the beach. But you'll go crazy trying to keep that up.
	"It is a wearisome illness to preserve one's health by too strict a regimen." -François de la Rochefoucauld

07-05-2004, 02:01 PM	#16
kim Fit by 40 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canada Posts: 219 Photos: 5	Yea, my stomach seem to be flat with some fats and I am right now for 5'6 in a good range of body weight 132 pounds, (with muscle) So does it mean that from where I am right now there is gonna be two possibility. I keep training hard with weight and my hitt 3 x times/week and what it will do, well, I it will continue to increase my strengh with the add of some muscle. So let say I don't do a kind of pre-contest diet, I keep everything like I do right now, is adding more muscle will make my fat shred away a little more, or my stomach will remain the same and the only thing that will happen with me is that I will only add more muscle. So if my stomach seems to be almost flat, At 5'6" - 132 pounds, getting lower, it's almost impossible if I'm not looking to enter any kind of comp. So if I understand, I am now like stuck with the stomach until I decide to have that picture for PROSPERITY
	[b]kim - Fit by 43

07-05-2004, 03:02 PM	#17
Fit Freak Fit Freak Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,797 Photos: 6	[quote[ Competition dieting and training is NOT HEALTHY. People have this misconception. You are constantly hungry and tired and its so taxing on the body. [/quote] Simply...WELL SAID And yes...it sucks...in CAPITAL LETTERS
	Searching for the right balance...

07-05-2004, 03:07 PM	#18
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Kim you look great! So many people would love to look like you do right now. Keep doing what your doing, as you add muscle, the fat comes off as well.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

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