When to do deadlift?

PeterGunz · 07-12-2004, 03:51 PM

I occasionally did deadlift on my leg days for about the past couple years. I came home from school and started lifting with my brother and he has been doing deadlifts on his back day at the end of his workouts and claims it has been giving him great results. I was curious which day (lifting group) do most people do deadlifts.

Also I was curious about shrugs. I always did them when I was doing shoulders, but i noticed many people doing them on back day.

LAM · 07-12-2004, 03:54 PM

back day

Var · 07-12-2004, 03:55 PM

I would do standard deads on back day for sure. If you're doing stiff-leg deads, those are good for leg day.

I shrug whichever day I plan to do traps. Usually, shoulder day, but u can train traps on back day if you like that split better.

DimebagDarrell · 07-12-2004, 04:03 PM

i like to put my deadlifts and shrugs together on back day so i make sure they get hit hard. if i dont, i dont see any results at my traps.

**CowPimp** · 07-12-2004, 04:38 PM

Back day. If you do deadlifts properly, then you shouldn't stimulate your legs nearly as much as your back.

gr81 · 07-12-2004, 04:43 PM

actually thats not true, the hip flexors are the most important thing in the deadlift pretty much man.

**CowPimp** · 07-12-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

actually thats not true, the hip flexors are the most important thing in the deadlift pretty much man.

I thought the erector spinae was?

Var · 07-12-2004, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr81

actually thats not true, the hip flexors are the most important thing in the deadlift pretty much man.

Psoas is definitely involved in deads, but to say its the most important thing is quite a stretch

Var · 07-12-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

I thought the erector spinae was?

Lats, traps, erector spinae, quads, hip flexors, gluteals, and forearms are all involved to some degree

**CowPimp** · 07-12-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

Psoas is definitely involved in deads, but to say its the most important thing is quite a stretch

I think it depends highly on one's form. However, if done like a powerlifter, then I believe the erector spinae is the most important muscle involved.

gr81 · 07-12-2004, 04:55 PM

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Psoas is definitely involved in deads, but to say its the most important thing is quite a stretch

not a stretch at all man, the movement is started with the hams and hips, then the torso. Otherwise its just a stiff legged dead

Var · 07-12-2004, 04:56 PM

I agree that the movement is started with the hip flexors. I guess it comes down to semantics at this point. Which part of the movement is "most important"?

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:10 PM

Gentlem gentlmen...you both have it wrong lol....the hip flexors ( illiopsoas, rectus femoris, sartorius and tensor fascia lata) don't activate during the deadlift! The hip extensors, gluteus maximus and hamstirngs (semimembrinosis, semitendinosis, biceps femoris) are what is driving the bar up. You upper back (traps, rear delts, rhomboids, lats) and biceps are holding the dead weight and your spinae erectors are going to lock you out.

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:13 PM

Anyway, back to the original purpose of the thread. I do my deads on leg day if I am doing a split were I train bodyparts.

gr81 · 07-12-2004, 05:15 PM

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The hip extensors, gluteus maximus and hamstirngs (semimembrinosis, semitendinosis, biceps femoris) are what is driving the bar up.

thats what I am driving at, thanks. don't mind me, I been blazin up that dro..

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:18 PM

LOL.....I don;t mind anyone.....

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

thats what I am driving at, thanks. don't mind me, I been blazin up that dro..

If you're saying what I think you're saying...pass it over here, bro!

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:29 PM

hehehe, damn, I haven't smoked pot is soooooo long!

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:32 PM

Yeah...um...drugs are bad...dont do drugs!

I hardly even drink anymore, but from time to time, I just gotta have a wild night. I always regret it the day after and get that much more focused on training and diet.

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:34 PM

I haven't been drunk in almost 2 years! I average about 1 beer every 2-3months...lol

gr81 · 07-12-2004, 05:38 PM

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I haven't been drunk in almost 2 years! I average about 1 beer every 2-3months...lol

yeah, I am eth same way P, I don't even remember what its like to be hella drunk for gods sake! it is a nice day thou and I got tha bomb so you know how it is. Hey Var... catch. lol. Btw I bet they don't have this type of shit in RI either! ha ha

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:38 PM

I probably average 6-8 per month. Usually all in one night.

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gr81

I bet they don't have this type of shit in RI either! ha ha

You might be suprised.

Get some good BC Bud here from time to time. I mean...thats what i hear...from friends.

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 05:46 PM

Yeah, when I lived in Boston we used to get that shit....it would knock me on my ass. LOL

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:50 PM

Northern Lights!

First time I got some was up in Montreal at a DMB show. Completely lost myself for a few minutes on that stuff.

Var · 07-12-2004, 05:53 PM

We've officially hijacked another thread!

gr81 · 07-12-2004, 06:04 PM

maybe, but not many states can fucc with the Northwest chronic, Cali can. Northern lights is the shit. its all about that purple kush thou maYn..

The BC bud can go wither way, alot of the stuff that ends up in the states is so so, but the shit they got up there is str8 killa..lol

Var · 07-12-2004, 06:09 PM

Its amazing how laid back the cops are about herb up in Montreal. The shits EVERYWHERE! You get caught drinking and driving though and they just about put you in front of a firing squad.

**P-funk** · 07-12-2004, 06:12 PM

IN my opinion if you are drinking and driving you deserve to be put in front of a firing squad. There is no excuse for that stupidity. I am ashmed of myself that I used to do it so much. I will never drink and drive again.

Var · 07-12-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

IN my opinion if you are drinking and driving you deserve to be put in front of a firing squad. There is no excuse for that stupidity. I am ashmed of myself that I used to do it so much. I will never drink and drive again.

Same here!

07-12-2004, 03:51 PM	#1
PeterGunz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 71	When to do deadlift? I occasionally did deadlift on my leg days for about the past couple years. I came home from school and started lifting with my brother and he has been doing deadlifts on his back day at the end of his workouts and claims it has been giving him great results. I was curious which day (lifting group) do most people do deadlifts. Also I was curious about shrugs. I always did them when I was doing shoulders, but i noticed many people doing them on back day.

07-12-2004, 03:54 PM	#2
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	back day Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-12-2004, 03:55 PM	#3
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I would do standard deads on back day for sure. If you're doing stiff-leg deads, those are good for leg day. I shrug whichever day I plan to do traps. Usually, shoulder day, but u can train traps on back day if you like that split better. But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 04:03 PM	#4
DimebagDarrell Cutting sucks. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 774 Photos: 4	i like to put my deadlifts and shrugs together on back day so i make sure they get hit hard. if i dont, i dont see any results at my traps. cutting sucks.

07-12-2004, 04:38 PM	#5
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,619	Back day. If you do deadlifts properly, then you shouldn't stimulate your legs nearly as much as your back. The only time it's bad to feel the burn is when you're peeing... Belligerent Bovine badass YouTube Videos

07-12-2004, 04:43 PM	#6
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	actually thats not true, the hip flexors are the most important thing in the deadlift pretty much man.

07-12-2004, 04:56 PM	#12
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I agree that the movement is started with the hip flexors. I guess it comes down to semantics at this point. Which part of the movement is "most important"? But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 05:10 PM	#13
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	Gentlem gentlmen...you both have it wrong lol....the hip flexors ( illiopsoas, rectus femoris, sartorius and tensor fascia lata) don't activate during the deadlift! The hip extensors, gluteus maximus and hamstirngs (semimembrinosis, semitendinosis, biceps femoris) are what is driving the bar up. You upper back (traps, rear delts, rhomboids, lats) and biceps are holding the dead weight and your spinae erectors are going to lock you out. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:13 PM	#14
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	Anyway, back to the original purpose of the thread. I do my deads on leg day if I am doing a split were I train bodyparts. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:18 PM	#16
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	LOL.....I don;t mind anyone..... E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:29 PM	#18
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	hehehe, damn, I haven't smoked pot is soooooo long! E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:32 PM	#19
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Yeah...um...drugs are bad...dont do drugs! I hardly even drink anymore, but from time to time, I just gotta have a wild night. I always regret it the day after and get that much more focused on training and diet. But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 05:34 PM	#20
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	I haven't been drunk in almost 2 years! I average about 1 beer every 2-3months...lol E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:38 PM	#22
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	I probably average 6-8 per month. Usually all in one night. But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 05:46 PM	#24
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	Yeah, when I lived in Boston we used to get that shit....it would knock me on my ass. LOL E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

07-12-2004, 05:50 PM	#25
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Northern Lights! First time I got some was up in Montreal at a DMB show. Completely lost myself for a few minutes on that stuff. But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 05:53 PM	#26
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	We've officially hijacked another thread! But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 06:04 PM	#27
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	maybe, but not many states can fucc with the Northwest chronic, Cali can. Northern lights is the shit. its all about that purple kush thou maYn.. The BC bud can go wither way, alot of the stuff that ends up in the states is so so, but the shit they got up there is str8 killa..lol

07-12-2004, 06:09 PM	#28
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Its amazing how laid back the cops are about herb up in Montreal. The shits EVERYWHERE! You get caught drinking and driving though and they just about put you in front of a firing squad. But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you. -N. Machiavelli

07-12-2004, 06:12 PM	#29
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,703	IN my opinion if you are drinking and driving you deserve to be put in front of a firing squad. There is no excuse for that stupidity. I am ashmed of myself that I used to do it so much. I will never drink and drive again. E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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